Chuffy say: can stop pictures now?BotanyBay said:Carrot-top say:
"Me agree with Polish"
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Chuffy say: can stop pictures now?BotanyBay said:Carrot-top say:
"Me agree with Polish"
Chuffy said:Chuffy say: can stop pictures now?
Doping Does Not Transform a Rider.
And to think otherwise is dumb and potentially dangerous.
BotanyBay said:Sorry Chuffy. When Polish said
The more appropriate response would have been a more serious
"I disagree with you, Polish".
I'll stop.
red_flanders said:We see evidence of that in that no one dopes of course.
If it transformed performances, a lot of people would dope. Since it doesn't, no on does.
Alpe d'Huez said:People are sick of doping, sick of cheating, sick of lies and sick of the corruption. They are expressing it more now perhaps because there appears to be more of it brought to their attention.
forty four said:speak for yourself i still love and enjoy cycling i realize in top level sport particularly endurance sports that there will always be drug use and a culture of secrecy its the nature of elite athletes. keep in mind there is no point to sport its only entertainment no less no more. top level endurance athletes are of a certain type mentally some would say its a mental illness of sorts they will always try to find an edge as there need to win is everything in life. understand this and accept it as its human nature regarding top level athletes or find another sport. it was happening 100 years ago it will be happening in a 100 years.
BotanyBay said:Perhaps you're seeing the frustration that people feel naturally when so much poop hits the fan at once.
I think most Pro cyclists "have" doped. I won't say that they all "do" dope. At any given event, a sizeable number are cycling dope. I think the current crop of "top" riders dope in a very methodical and calculated manner. Not even HWMNBM was on dope every race, but during certain periods of the year, it is in full-swing (in my opinion). So "Do they all dope?"... Define "doping". How often must one dope to be a "doper"?
And all of this macabre "freak show" has turned cycling into a joke as of late. You're witnessing disenchantment.
Perhaps not so much a change in attitude as a change of mood.
red_flanders said:We see evidence of that in that no one dopes of course.
If it transformed performances, a lot of people would dope. Since it doesn't, no on does.
botanybay said:And all of this macabre "freak show" has turned cycling into a joke as of late. You're witnessing disenchantment.
warmfuzzies said:I am a fan of both pro cycling and the WWE. The only aspect that has changed for me is that I now assume both sets of athletes dope. But I still have great respect for champions of both sports, including Greg Lemond, Hulk Hogan, Alberto Contador, and Alberto Del Rio, winner of the 2011 Royal Rumble.