Changes Cookson has implemented at UCI

[Catwhoorg]

Ross does a decent job of showing the limits in this articlefrom a few years ago.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Ross does a decent job of showing the limits in this articlefrom a few years ago.

was just looking at it

To clarify - yes ADAMS, that basterd simpleton child of a computer system tracking test results could potentially flag a low value mid-GT, but that's as far as it would get, imo.

 

[Catwhoorg]

was just looking at it

To clarify - yes ADAMS, that basterd simpleton child of a computer system tracking test results could potentially flag a low value mid-GT, but that's as far as it would get, imo.

Yes of course. Even if the first expert thought it was odd, once the riders race program was considered it would never get a unanimous vote of a panel of 3.

 

[The Hitch]

Mask is slipping.

The clinic never claimed to be credible.

You misunderstood his post. He meant wada credible and clinic credible as in "credible enough for"- the clinic, Wada.

 

[Alpe73]

You misunderstood his post. He meant wada credible and clinic credible as in "credible enough for"- the clinic, Wada.

Muito obrigado.

 

[Benotti69]

You misunderstood his post. He meant wada credible and clinic credible as in "credible enough for"- the clinic, Wada.

Muito obrigado.

Apologies to Alpe.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Thanks to innerRing for linking to a Cookson speech at Sport Accord meeting in Turkey.

It's important to note Hein ran Sport Accord until very recently. What does Sport Accord do? Think of it like the IOC's version of "The X Games."

There is also some public talk of Sport Accord running unified World Championships. Again, think of it like "X Games" for the IOC and if the IOC wants it badly, sports like cycling will have no choice but to cooperate.

I will give Cookson credit for following what Bach at the IOC has publicly mentioned and trying new things. ASO might feel differently about all of the new ideas considering they produce most cycling broadcasts even if they don't own the event.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/26954099

 

[DirtyWorks]

The speech itself is sad though. Lots of "Trust us, we're moving forward" messages in the first half.

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENewsDetails.asp?id=OTg5NA&MenuId=MTI2Mjc

It's a great clue as to what Cookson's actually working on. Broadcast, not doping.

 

[Freddythefrog]

The cogs are turning

The speech itself is sad though. Lots of "Trust us, we're moving forward" messages in the first half.

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENewsDetails.asp?id=OTg5NA&MenuId=MTI2Mjc

It's a great clue as to what Cookson's actually working on. Broadcast, not doping.

Cookson will by now have started to work out that a few of his past associates were not quite as straightforward with him, several years ago, as he would now have liked them to have been then. Cookson wants that SOL clock to tick fast. A few new faces to entertain the crowds with a "well I never" and "wh'ould have thunk it", from his commission, should be good enough for his term.

The last thing on the planet he wants is a super new test that actually catches the criminals. He needs the bio-passport to catch a cretin or two and so he can point at it and say - "look it works", whilst the rest of the gang use it as a cloak of disguise.

A beauty contest between Pat and Cookson was never going to produce a winner.

 

[manafana]

its still better than the old days and least cookson has a reasonable pace, good i dislike the mcquiads for how they profit all for themselves in irish cycling

 

[Dear Wiggo]

its still better than the old days and least cookson has a reasonable pace, good i dislike the mcquiads for how they profit all for themselves in irish cycling

I don't see any difference, to be honest.

I do see a GB team caning GTs, a GB UCI president and a GB IOC president, however. Very handy, innit?

 

[BYOP88]

I heard that Cookson has changed the soap they use at the UCI. They've gone from bottles of soap to bars of soap and staff morale is at an all time high.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I don't see any difference, to be honest.

I do see a GB team caning GTs, a GB UCI president and a GB IOC president, however. Very handy, innit?

I was wrong.

Creedie has stepped down from the IOC Ethics Commission to focus on presidency of WADA.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/olymp...commission-to-focus-on-role-as-wada-president

So we have

GB: David Brailsford - team manager of ridiculous performance upgrades
GB: Cookson - UCI president and son who works / worked for DB / Team Sky
GB: Creedie - WADA president

 

[sniper]

I was wrong.

Creedie has stepped down from the IOC Ethics Commission to focus on presidency of WADA.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/olymp...commission-to-focus-on-role-as-wada-president

So we have

GB: David Brailsford - team manager of ridiculous performance upgrades
GB: Cookson - UCI president and son who works / worked for DB / Team Sky
GB: Creedie - WADA president

so why ffs did wiggo stop doping?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

so why ffs did wiggo stop doping?

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=1437112&posted=1#post1437112

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I am sure this is entirely coincidental...

Cycling - Cookson [GB] opens talks with WADA over investigation into UCI
The International Cycling Union (UCI) has contacted the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) to start discussions for an independent investigation into cycling's governing body, new UCI president Brian Cookson said on Friday.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news...ks-wada-investigation-uci-140456976--spt.html

Reedie [GB] steps down from IOC Ethics Commission to focus on role as WADA President

Sir Craig Reedie has resigned as a member of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) Ethics Commission in order to avoid a conflict of interests with his role as President of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), it was announced here tonight.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/olymp...commission-to-focus-on-role-as-wada-president

Can someone explain to me the potential for CoI between WADA and the IOC ethics committee?

 

[roundabout]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014...ign=Feed:+cyclingrightnow/velonews+(VeloNews)

Another pressing issue to be looked into by the great reformer. Hooray...

 

[Benotti69]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014...ign=Feed:+cyclingrightnow/velonews+(VeloNews)

Another pressing issue to be looked into by the great reformer. Hooray...

The hour record is no longer a relevant record as modern technology will give a greater advantage to the rider. Modern technology means they can predict whether Canc (or anyone else for that matter) can beat the record and by how much before a pedal is turned.

Do it on a track bike with no computer/srm power meter and let us see him beat it.

 

[Netserk]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014...ign=Feed:+cyclingrightnow/velonews+(VeloNews)

Another pressing issue to be looked into by the great reformer. Hooray...

I really can't see why the rules need to change. I like having two different records; one that is comparable across time, another with the gain of new technology.

 

[oldcrank]

I really can't see why the rules need to change. I like having two different records; one that is comparable across time, another with the gain of new technology.

My friend, at this time there is only the record that
'is comparable across time.' The change is that they
likely bring back the record that allows 'technology.'

Before Cookson was elected, I posted in the other
Cookson thread that, if elected, he would try to
restore the Absolute Hour Record (i.e. using disc
wheels, pursuit bars, etc.) because many of the
wheel, frame, equipment sponsors that support
professional cycling were in favour of it. Of course,
my post was slammed by the usual reactionaries.

Not surprisingly, when I posted a link a couple of
months back (in this thread I believe) that UCI/Mr.
Cookson had appointed Dimitris Katsanis to look
at a number of equipment related regulations,
including the Hour Record, the Anti-Brit Brigade
again got their knickers in a twist.

However, all that aside, at this time the UCI only
recognizes the Athletes Hour Record, but will probably
restore the Absolute Hour Record (exact rules yet
to be determined) at least in part due to requests
from major equipment sponsors, as I suggested
last year was likely to happen.

 

[BYOP88]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014...ign=Feed:+cyclingrightnow/velonews+(VeloNews)

Another pressing issue to be looked into by the great reformer. Hooray...

I'm so glad he got the gig!

 

[Netserk]

My friend, at this time there is only the record that
'is comparable across time.' The change is that they
likely bring back the record that allows 'technology.'

Before Cookson was elected, I posted in the other
Cookson thread that, if elected, he would try to
restore the Absolute Hour Record (i.e. using disc
wheels, pursuit bars, etc.) because many of the
wheel, frame, equipment sponsors that support
professional cycling were in favour of it. Of course,
my post was slammed by the usual reactionaries.

Not surprisingly, when I posted a link a couple of
months back (in this thread I believe) that UCI/Mr.
Cookson had appointed Dimitris Katsanis to look
at a number of equipment related regulations,
including the Hour Record, the Anti-Brit Brigade
again got their knickers in a twist.

However, all that aside, at this time the UCI only
recognizes the Athletes Hour Record, but will probably
restore the Absolute Hour Record (exact rules yet
to be determined) at least in part due to requests
from major equipment sponsors, as I suggested
last year was likely to happen.

From what I get from this, there are two atm, the absolute and the comparable one.

 

[oldcrank]

From what I get from this, there are two atm, the absolute and the comparable one.

Yes, my friend, but since 09/09/2000 the UCI has only
sanctioned attempts on the Athletes Hour Record, now
sometimes referred to as the Merckx Rules Record (even
though Eddy's bike was undoubtedly lighter than what
is now permitted).

 

[Catwhoorg]

I would think that the best compromise would be any UCI legal track bike for the year in question.

Gives equipment companies the chance to showcase their wares, but ensures that there isn't a step change due to completely new positions (superman etc).


I really don't see why this is actually worthy of more than 5 mins of presidential time.

 

[oldcrank]

I would think that the best compromise would be any UCI legal track bike for the year in question.

Gives equipment companies the chance to showcase their wares, but ensures that there isn't a step change due to completely new positions (superman etc).


I really don't see why this is actually worthy of more than 5 mins of presidential time.

Of course, my friend, it isn't Mr. Cookson that is spending
time with this. It is Mr. Katsanis and the track commission.

Hopefully the rules they decide on, in consultation with
equipment manufacturers and other stake holders, will
allow for some innovation and advancement in design
and materials without having to update or modify the
regulations too frequently.

I think it is proper that they take their time so that the
parameters they set do not stifle the creativity of our
modern engineers and manufacturers, but at the same
time do not diminish the integrity of our sport as an
athletic contest.