Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[Afrank]

Anyone saw Froome using his astma pump during the race? I never saw something like that...

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/sportwereld/cnt/dmf20140610_01134831

Being discussed in the clinic.

 

[Afrank]

I agree Froome is really one of the craziest riders i ever seen,but don't expect that Contador fans will ever admit that Froome is more aggressive than their hero.

I suggest re-watching some of Contador's past rides in various races. A good one to start is the 2011 Giro (where even while safely in pink with no need to attack Contador is still attacking).

At this point it can't be claimed Froome has been overall more aggressive then Contador in his career. Not yet anyway. Contador has a long history of attacks of all kinds, whereas Froomes history of attacking only goes back to 2011 and doesn't iirc include any long range attacks.

It can be claimed however that Froome was more aggressive in certain races. Like Tour last year or yesterdays stage.

 

[MBotero]

I saw that Giro 2011 and by aggressive riding i wasn't thinking at long range attacks,it's just Froome style always trying to attack no mater his condition,ignoring tactics,chasing everybody ,carrying all his adversaries up the mountain etc.

 

[SeriousSam]

At this point it can't be claimed Froome has been overall more aggressive then Contador in his career. Not yet anyway. Contador has a long history of attacks of all kinds, whereas Froomes history of attacking only goes back to 2011 and doesn't iirc include any long range attacks.

I still have vivid memories of Froome putting in blistering accelerations to rejoin the grupetto. Always been an attacking rider.

Ok, no, I don't.

 

[TomekA]

His form is big question mark. Did he look so exhausted also in last year's Dauphine? I don't remember. Of course he crashed yesterday but he also seemed exhausted in stage 2. I thought he is huge favourite for TdF win but now I'm not so sure...

 

[Netserk]

I think he forgot to use his inhaler today.

 

[Jelantik]

I saw that Giro 2011 and by aggressive riding i wasn't thinking at long range attacks,it's just Froome style always trying to attack no mater his condition,ignoring tactics,chasing everybody ,carrying all his adversaries up the mountain etc.

well in my book that's what I called a stupid attack. Contador always attacked strategically not for show boating like Froome. so, strategically and aggressively, contador is savvy-er than Froome

 

[Fzotrlool]

I think he forgot to use his inhaler today.

 

[Jelantik]

His form is big question mark. Did he look so exhausted also in last year's Dauphine? I don't remember. Of course he crashed yesterday but he also seemed exhausted in stage 2. I thought he is huge favourite for TdF win but now I'm not so sure...

meh. Contador kicked Froome's a-ss today. Fair and square, period. Tomorrow is another day, and it's not over yet. Maybe the table will turn, who knows, but one thing for sure, this turns out to be the great first round battle of the titans. I can't complaint. ... <ops what's that sound? ..ah, my popcorn is ready>

 

[Dazed and Confused]

His form is big question mark. Did he look so exhausted also in last year's Dauphine? I don't remember. Of course he crashed yesterday but he also seemed exhausted in stage 2. I thought he is huge favourite for TdF win but now I'm not so sure...

Froome is one level below last year.
Its pretty obvious. Not only here but the entire season.

Only race where I think he was stronger was TdR, but we didn't get the confirmation as Froome waited for Spilak.

Just my opinion.

 

[MBotero]

Froome is one level below last year.
Its pretty obvious. Not only here but the entire season.

Only race where I think he was stronger was TdR, but we didn't get the confirmation as Froome waited for Spilak.

Just my opinion.

We'll see about this,those crazy attacks from stage 2 looked pretty good to me so i'm not so sure he is weaker.He looks weaker because Contador is flying these days.

 

[Jelantik]

We'll see about this,those crazy attacks from stage 2 looked pretty good to me so i'm not so sure he is weaker.He looks weaker because Contador is flying these days.

+1 Good one. indeed, contador is flying.

 

[richwagmn]

Froome is one level below last year.
Its pretty obvious. Not only here but the entire season.

Only race where I think he was stronger was TdR, but we didn't get the confirmation as Froome waited for Spilak.

Just my opinion.

I can't believe people are discounting Froome's crash yesterday. I never saw Froome get out of the saddle once today on that final climb. That says to me he has some soreness on his left side and can only manage fast seated climbing right now (though it's pretty damn fast).

AC is looking great. Maybe at his best ever. But Froome not responding after a hard crash today doesn't say to me that his form is below last years.

Now Nibali... you can write that guy off completely.

 

[TANK91]

meh. Contador kicked Froome's a-ss today. Fair and square, period. Tomorrow is another day, and it's not over yet. Maybe the table will turn, who knows, but one thing for sure, this turns out to be the great first round battle of the titans. I can't complaint. ... <ops what's that sound? ..ah, my popcorn is ready>

Great ride but hardly a kicking was it. Froome cracked and lost just 2 seconds when he took it up. How is it an excuse when Talansky outclimbed Froome today. Froome would have put a min into Talansky the other day but he kept waiting. You don't suddenly get worst than Talansky in a matter of day's

So the crash clearly took it out of him it must have. Also good thing for Sky is Nieve is great and Porte.

 

[Cimber]

I can't believe people are discounting Froome's crash yesterday. I never saw Froome get out of the saddle once today on that final climb. That says to me he has some soreness on his left side and can only manage fast seated climbing right now (though it's pretty damn fast).

AC is looking great. Maybe at his best ever. But Froome not responding after a hard crash today doesn't say to me that his form is below last years.

Now Nibali... you can write that guy off completely.

I cant remember getting out of the saddle during stage 2. Even during his really amazing accelerations

 

[Jelantik]

Great ride but hardly a kicking was it. Froome cracked and lost just 2 seconds when he took it up. How is it an excuse when Talansky outclimbed Froome today. Froome would have put a min into Talansky the other day but he kept waiting. You don't suddenly get worst than Talansky in a matter of day's

So the crash clearly took it out of him it must have. Also good thing for Sky is Nieve is great and Porte.

Just give the credit when the credit due.. Froome got his a-ss handed by Contador today, especially considering how much he tried to drop Contador (unsuccessfully) several times on stage 2. Kick a-ss or not kick a-ss, fact is: Froome got his a-ss handed by contador "today", period.

tomorrow is another day. Game on.

 

[Netserk]

I cant remember getting out of the saddle during stage 2. Even during his really amazing accelerations

He was out of his saddle during his most ridiculous attack. IIRC.

 

[bigcog]

I can't believe people are discounting Froome's crash yesterday. I never saw Froome get out of the saddle once today on that final climb. That says to me he has some soreness on his left side and can only manage fast seated climbing right now (though it's pretty damn fast).

AC is looking great. Maybe at his best ever. But Froome not responding after a hard crash today doesn't say to me that his form is below last years.

Now Nibali... you can write that guy off completely.

Bang on, I didn't see Froome get out of the saddle once today. His hip wound looked nasty to me plus I've read he had to have stitches in his elbow. I'd say he's banged up a fair bit. In a way if that is the case it's good as Contador may think he's got the beating of him which will make it even more entertaining in the TDF. I expect Contador to win this now.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I can't believe people are discounting Froome's crash yesterday. I never saw Froome get out of the saddle once today on that final climb. That says to me he has some soreness on his left side and can only manage fast seated climbing right now (though it's pretty damn fast).

AC is looking great. Maybe at his best ever. But Froome not responding after a hard crash today doesn't say to me that his form is below last years.

Now Nibali... you can write that guy off completely.

I said the entire season. One level below last year. The numbers supports my view.

Froome even looks tired. Very tired. No so last year.

AC still below 2011 form. Could get better at the tour, but so can Froome of course.

 

[TANK91]

Just give the credit when the credit due.. Froome got his a-ss handed by Contador today, especially considering how much he tried to drop Contador (unsuccessfully) several times on stage 2. Kick a-ss or not kick a-ss, fact is: Froome got his a-ss handed by contador "today", period.

tomorrow is another day. Game on.

I am giving credit i don't think even if he cracked he would have boght it back he was obvi not going well. You even call Froome silly tactically one thing we no is Froome would have went if he could. Alo chucks out everyone claims he didnt want to win lol.

 

[Publicus]

I cant remember getting out of the saddle during stage 2. Even during his really amazing accelerations

The long 20"+ attack at 5KM to go. In any event he was on the limit when AC went. He was climbing out of the saddle on the penultimate climb and the early slopes of Emmosson. I'd like to see what he says about today (his team was super strong, he couldnt defend/deliver when it mattered).

 

[TANK91]

Also Jelantik, you think the crash did not affect him then? I mean did you see his rahses all over his body Elbow plaster'd up. Im sure he is worst than Talansky in 3-4 day's.

 

[fantomas]

I cant remember getting out of the saddle during stage 2. Even during his really amazing accelerations

He was during his most crazy attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRXcCOip7Dk#t=41

Today was much steeper. He did gain a 4-5 seconds on Contador on the least steep part in the final K today, but lost around 8-9 seconds on the final steeper 500 metres.

 

[TANK91]

So if it is right he took it up at 18 seconds? Not bad to lse 2 secods the rest of way while cracking.

 

[bigcog]

He was during his most crazy attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRXcCOip7Dk#t=41

Today was much steeper. He did gain a 4-5 seconds on Contador on the least steep part in the final K today, but lost around 8-9 seconds on the final steeper 500 metres.

Contador has always been better than Froome on the steeper gradients. Remember Vuelta 2012.