Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 34.4%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 65 53.3%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 28 23.0%

  • Total voters
    122
Aug 4, 2011
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Maybe Froome just made a wise decision. He came back from illness, pushed himself for a few days. Found out he isn't at full strength yet and when you force things you might get ill again or pay the price later on in the season, so he decided to take it easy.

People are always so black/white on results... it's stupid

Looking at him the last few days he his really not looking good at all. Sometimes the athlete make a bad call on how he is feeling and thinks even some racing is better than none. From what I have seen I would pull him.
 
It looks like Froome would have been better off resting up for another week. Obviously it's just training for him but he might not be even fit enough for that at the moment. Porte should be showing some form with the Giro only one month or so away but Porte always looks pretty good in the shorter stage races. But he is probably enjoying being team leader at the moment with everything going well.
 
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Rollthedice said:
The true mistery is that nobody is giving any explanation, nobody asking questions it's like an embargo on Froome's meltdown. He just vanished from all news like he's not even present.

Maybe it's that the team isn't concerned. Although it could be a sign that between himself and Porte there is a growing rivalry. :eek:

I know, I can be pretty devious at times. :D
 
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rhubroma said:
Rollthedice said:
The true mistery is that nobody is giving any explanation, nobody asking questions it's like an embargo on Froome's meltdown. He just vanished from all news like he's not even present.

Maybe it's that the team isn't concerned. Although it could be a sign that between himself and Porte there is a growing rivalry. :eek:

I know, I can be pretty devious at times. :D

The team is so unconcerned that they totally ignore the leader with whom they came to Catalunya.
 
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Rollthedice said:
rhubroma said:
Rollthedice said:
The true mistery is that nobody is giving any explanation, nobody asking questions it's like an embargo on Froome's meltdown. He just vanished from all news like he's not even present.

Maybe it's that the team isn't concerned. Although it could be a sign that between himself and Porte there is a growing rivalry. :eek:

I know, I can be pretty devious at times. :D

The team is so unconcerned that they totally ignore the leader with whom they came to Catalunya.

I take your sarcasm. The fact, however, that even this site has made practically nothing of such a sensationally poor performance, is a silence that is far more raucous than all the hullabaloo they made over AC being dropped by just seconds.
 
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rhubroma said:
The thing is why make such a poor showing? Isn't it better to pull out than arrive with the sprinters?

That was my question. Wouldn't it be better for him, since he's recovering from a chest infection, to do solo training in an environment that is more controlled? I can't see what is gained by just rolling around with the gruppetto. How can one's form go from such a high level to so dismal in such a short period? You begin to lose what you've gained after about 2 weeks of inactivity. It doesn't drop off so dramatically.
 
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Rollthedice said:
rhubroma said:
Rollthedice said:
The true mistery is that nobody is giving any explanation, nobody asking questions it's like an embargo on Froome's meltdown. He just vanished from all news like he's not even present.

Maybe it's that the team isn't concerned. Although it could be a sign that between himself and Porte there is a growing rivalry. :eek:

I know, I can be pretty devious at times. :D

The team is so unconcerned that they totally ignore the leader with whom they came to Catalunya.

"Joint-leader" :D
 
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Angliru said:
rhubroma said:
The thing is why make such a poor showing? Isn't it better to pull out than arrive with the sprinters?

That was my question. Wouldn't it be better for him, since he's recovering from a chest infection, to do solo training in an environment that is more controlled? I can't see what is gained by just rolling around with the gruppetto. How can one's form go from such a high level to so dismal in such a short period? You begin to lose what you've gained after about 2 weeks of inactivity. It doesn't drop off so dramatically.

Yea, this I don't get too. I mean, and with all the necessary differences in level considered, I raced a hard course in Tuscany in 2013, after a week of being wasted with fever. And my chest was on fire! Realizing that the fever would have subsided by Sat., I calculated that by racing on Sunday anyway, there was a reasonable chance of not getting sicker and fully recovering. In fact that's what happened.

At the time I was in great shape, had trained through the winter and raced well all spring. If anything the fever, while not pleasant, forced me to rest during the week. The Sunday race went pretty well all things considered. I mean, I didn't win, but I didn't have a dramatic dive in form either (again with the difference in level considered). Who knows...
 
Jul 19, 2010
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Escarabajo said:
LaFlorecita said:
Red Rick said:
One can only imagine the panick there would be here if Contador had lost half an hour today

But he would never lose half an hour even on his worst days. Froome has been up and down for a while.
Since he started riding his bike pretty much.

LOL. Good one.
contador at least is more consistent. Froome is like nose diving up and nose diving down.
 
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Contador hadn't lost that much time, like Froome in this Volta, in his entire career I think, considering stage races
 
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Mr.White said:
Contador hadn't lost that much time, like Froome in this Volta, in his entire career I think, considering stage races

Tour 2005 :eek:

in one week stage races his worst GC result in terms of time lost is Vuelta a Burgos 2003, 28 minutes down :eek: and 20 minutes at the 2003 Tour of Poland :eek: besides that the max is pretty much 10 minutes :rolleyes: :eek:
 
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Angliru said:
rhubroma said:
The thing is why make such a poor showing? Isn't it better to pull out than arrive with the sprinters?

That was my question. Wouldn't it be better for him, since he's recovering from a chest infection, to do solo training in an environment that is more controlled? I can't see what is gained by just rolling around with the gruppetto. How can one's form go from such a high level to so dismal in such a short period? You begin to lose what you've gained after about 2 weeks of inactivity. It doesn't drop off so dramatically.
I think it does especially if you have a low VO2 max. My personal experience (in a limited way) is that if i am at peak FTP and after that if i do not exercise for 1 week, i have a weight gain of 1 kg and it takes 1 week just to regain endurance back with the first few days being really horrible. To get the proper p/w it takes ~3 weeks.
 
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why exactly he should bother to finish 5 mins down instead of 28mins? he has nothing to prove, he has a 1st or a 2nd in a GT for the past 4 years (2011,2012,2013,2014).