Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[Brullnux]

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Froome will NOT win the Tour, Olympic RR or TT.

The Tour will be won by AC. Watching this years TdF, I'm more convinced then ever - Someone who can climb just below the level of CF, but who has better recovery and is smarter can quite comfortably beat Froome over 3 weeks. AC going all out for the Tour can accomplish this.

The Olympic RR will be won by someone who climbs well, descends well and can sprint if needs be in the end. The TT will be won by one of the specialist.

When has Contador (or any one else for that matter) proven to have better recovery than Froome?

Well honestly, Quintana looked like he have much better recovery than Froome, in his last 2 TDF

Quintana was peaking for 3rd week. Froome arrived in top shape.
It is not an indication of better recovery

Most GT contenders peak for the third week. It's risky not to. If it was AC in NQ's shape then Froome was done for.

 

[damian13ster]

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Froome will NOT win the Tour, Olympic RR or TT.

The Tour will be won by AC. Watching this years TdF, I'm more convinced then ever - Someone who can climb just below the level of CF, but who has better recovery and is smarter can quite comfortably beat Froome over 3 weeks. AC going all out for the Tour can accomplish this.

The Olympic RR will be won by someone who climbs well, descends well and can sprint if needs be in the end. The TT will be won by one of the specialist.

When has Contador (or any one else for that matter) proven to have better recovery than Froome?

Well honestly, Quintana looked like he have much better recovery than Froome, in his last 2 TDF

Quintana was peaking for 3rd week. Froome arrived in top shape.
It is not an indication of better recovery

Most GT contenders peak for the third week. It's risky not to. If it was AC in NQ's shape then Froome was done for.

That is just your assumption without any basis other than wishful thinking.
Froome made a difference in first two weeks, and comfortably held on to the advantage despite not having a TT. The tactic worked. And he has done it twice now, arriving in great shape. Who cares what other contenders did? They lost.

 

[Gigs_98]

The austrian broadcasting station orf is ridiculous. I'm on their website and I read: After Contador tried to do the double this year, Chris Froome takes it one step further because next year he wants do try the triple
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of tour, olymic RR and olympic TT
I guess they don't know what is known as the triple in cycling, but whatever. I think that tdf and olympic RR are certainly possible. The route should suit him although he definitely isnt my favorite. However the goal to win the ITT seems rather strange. His TT results this year weren't that impressive and I doubt that he really has a chance against a top shape Martin, Dumoulin, Kiryjenka, Dennis, Mallori and maybe Cancellara will also be really good again.

 

[dacooley]

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Froome will NOT win the Tour, Olympic RR or TT.

The Tour will be won by AC. Watching this years TdF, I'm more convinced then ever - Someone who can climb just below the level of CF, but who has better recovery and is smarter can quite comfortably beat Froome over 3 weeks. AC going all out for the Tour can accomplish this.

The Olympic RR will be won by someone who climbs well, descends well and can sprint if needs be in the end. The TT will be won by one of the specialist.

it's very relative. yes, froome didn't look invulnerable in the tours he won. otoh when bertie did a gt without showing weakness? that's been a long time ago.

 

[Gigs_98]

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That is just your assumption without any basis other than wishful thinking.
Froome made a difference in first two weeks, and comfortably held on to the advantage despite not having a TT. The tactic worked. And he has done it twice now, arriving in great shape. Who cares what other contenders did? They lost.

I'm not one of the persons who say that Quintana surely would have won without stage 2, but be honest. You know that crosswind can hardly be part of the pre race tactic and that without stage 2 it at least would have been extremely close.

 

[huge]

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Trolls these days are getting weaker and weaker.

Come on, man! Don't underestimate yourself!

 

[huge]

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Sad to hear that Froome is in full LA mode.
Tour, tour and only tour... a rider that doesn't give a real crack to all 3 GT will never be among the big ones, in my opinion.

Even if he wins the next 3 Tours in a row, AC will still be a much greater rider. And so will be Nibali, especially if he manages to win any other GT.

who frigging cares?

Froome will never care of the Giro. it´s like you asked Voeckler if he prefers to win Paris-Tours or Strade Bianche. Paris-Tours will always come first

(I chose 2 non WT races, both 1.HC)

Sky will always push him to ride the Tour.
The first 2 Giros won by Contador, he rode them because he could not ride the Tour or still did not know if he could ride in July

the Tour always comes first, whatever the internet fans could say.

You totally missed the point.

Froome has already won 2 Tours. Not having a Giro or a Vuelta win in his palmares is a big negative point, if he aims to be one of the greatest riders in cycling history.

 

[Valv.Piti]

CF mentions the ITT is +50 km and has +1000 meters of vertical gains, so I guess its possible, I mean, he got 2nd after an invulnerable Wiggo if I remember correct. I think he stands better chances of the ITT than the RR.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Sad to hear that Froome is in full LA mode.
Tour, tour and only tour... a rider that doesn't give a real crack to all 3 GT will never be among the big ones, in my opinion.

Even if he wins the next 3 Tours in a row, AC will still be a much greater rider. And so will be Nibali, especially if he manages to win any other GT.

who frigging cares?

Froome will never care of the Giro. it´s like you asked Voeckler if he prefers to win Paris-Tours or Strade Bianche. Paris-Tours will always come first

(I chose 2 non WT races, both 1.HC)

Sky will always push him to ride the Tour.
The first 2 Giros won by Contador, he rode them because he could not ride the Tour or still did not know if he could ride in July

the Tour always comes first, whatever the internet fans could say.

You totally missed the point.

Froome has already won 2 Tours. Not having a Giro or a Vuelta win in his palmares his a big negative point, if he aims to be one of the greatest riders in cycling history.

Chris Froome gotta have at least 2 seasons of 2013 and at least one of the Olympic disciplines just in order to get close to top-10.

 

[jsem94]

I think Chris will end up having a stab at the Giro in 2017 or 2018. He will want to earn a spot among those who have won all three GTs.

 

[staubsauger]

Quintana mainly showed he's a little goof by winning the Giro with obvious cheating and waiting until he got ill to finally attack Froome at the Tour with true power.

Contador will beat Froome at the Tour I guess. He will be in super shape for one last big career highlight.

Froome has a decent shot at the Olympics from my pov. He might strike in at least one discipline I believe.

Sky's major 2016 success might be made by Landa winning Basque Country, Giro and Vuelta!

 

[Dog]

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Yes!!!!the dawg will break the internet next year

I would love to see Froome win the Tour, ORR, OTT (and hell lets throw in the Vuelta too), and Cavendish win the WRR, purely to see the reaction of this board.

 

[DBotero]

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I think Chris will end up having a stab at the Giro in 2017 or 2018. He will want to earn a spot among those who have won all three GTs.

Don't know,he seems pretty interested in Vuelta and i don't think Giro bad weather would benefit him anyway.He might try to add a Vuelta win,but will be hard if every time will ride it with TDF in his legs.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Quintana mainly showed he's a little goof by winning the Giro with obvious cheating and waiting until he got ill to finally attack Froome at the Tour with true power.

Contador will beat Froome at the Tour I guess. He will be in super shape for one last big career highlight.

Froome has a decent shot at the Olympics from my pov. He might strike in at least one discipline I believe.

Sky's major 2016 success might be made by Landa winning Basque Country, Giro and Vuelta!

To the bolded:
You are correct

And Contador will beat Froome as well in the Olympic road race and ITT

I saw a picture today on (I believe) Sky news twitter, Dawg looks pretty heavy?

 

[damian13ster]

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That is just your assumption without any basis other than wishful thinking.
Froome made a difference in first two weeks, and comfortably held on to the advantage despite not having a TT. The tactic worked. And he has done it twice now, arriving in great shape. Who cares what other contenders did? They lost.

I'm not one of the persons who say that Quintana surely would have won without stage 2, but be honest. You know that crosswind can hardly be part of the pre race tactic and that without stage 2 it at least would have been extremely close.

Bolded part should be where your post ends.....
You are aware that time gaps in GC do affect the race tactics?
That there was absolutely no reason to push as hard as possible to limit the gap when there was absolutely no risk of losing the race, or no chance to win a stage?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Froome will NOT win the Tour, Olympic RR or TT.

The Tour will be won by AC. Watching this years TdF, I'm more convinced then ever - Someone who can climb just below the level of CF, but who has better recovery and is smarter can quite comfortably beat Froome over 3 weeks. AC going all out for the Tour can accomplish this.

The Olympic RR will be won by someone who climbs well, descends well and can sprint if needs be in the end. The TT will be won by one of the specialist.

When has Contador (or any one else for that matter) proven to have better recovery than Froome?

Well honestly, Quintana looked like he have much better recovery than Froome, in his last 2 TDF

I don't agree. Quintana was able to peak for what, 3 days? Froome for more than two weeks.

 

[staubsauger]

Including the Dauphine it was more like 5 weeks wasn't it!?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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When has Contador (or any one else for that matter) proven to have better recovery than Froome?

Well, at least Contador has shown he can ride a 3 week race at a consistent high level.

 

[Red Rick]

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When has Contador (or any one else for that matter) proven to have better recovery than Froome?

Well, at least Contador has shown he can ride a 3 week race at a consistent high level.

Well Froome rode consistenly in a 3 week parade once, although I wouldn't call it a race

 

[Red Rick]

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Including the Dauphine it was more like 5 weeks wasn't it!?

You think that was top level Froome? I don't think that low of him.

 

[staubsauger]

It was good enough to win it. But it wasn't his peak. That's correct, of course.

 

[Billie]

Froome in 2012 peaked from Start of Tour all the way to the first week of the vuelta

 

[staubsauger]

He would've won that Vuelta against Purito and Valverde.

It was Contador who exposed him with his powerful attacks.

 

[Gigs_98]

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He would've won that Vuelta against Purito and Valverde.

It was Contador who exposed him with his powerful attacks.

2012? No way he would have won that. Froome was 9 minutes behind Purito. That disadvantage maybe would have been smaller without Contador, but Rodriguez and valverde aren't completely stupid.

 

[staubsauger]

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He would've won that Vuelta against Purito and Valverde.

It was Contador who exposed him with his powerful attacks.

2012? No way he would have won that. Froome was 9 minutes behind Purito. That disadvantage maybe would have been smaller without Contador, but Rodriguez and valverde aren't completely stupid.

They never would've attacked him enough to crack him. In fact, they are that stupid. I'm 100% sure.