Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 25 34.2%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 42 57.5%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 17 23.3%

  • Total voters
    73
I'm a living proof that you should just live the life as you want, because you can't please everybody.

I had one guy make a post where he said I was his favourite forum user, and another guy who made a post saying he created an account, after a decade of lurking, just to put me on ignore :))))))))))
That last part is hilarious! You’ll have to tell CN management you are expanding their market ;)
 
What would you do if you were the owner of IPT and Froome came to you and said

"If you take me to this year's TDF, I promise to retire immediately after and forgo the rest of my contract."

Would you take Froome up on it? or would you tell him "As tempting as that sounds, we have other riders that deserve to go."
 
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What would you do if you were the owner of IPT and Froome came to you and said

"If you take me to this year's TDF, I promise to retire immediately after and forgo the rest of my contract."

Would you take Froome up on it? or would you tell him "As tempting as that sounds, we have other riders that deserve to go."
I would tell him no, you’re not going to make a mockery of me or the team again and keep reminding me of my stupidity.
 
What would you do if you were the owner of IPT and Froome came to you and said

"If you take me to this year's TDF, I promise to retire immediately after and forgo the rest of my contract."

Would you take Froome up on it? or would you tell him "As tempting as that sounds, we have other riders that deserve to go."
I would put it in writing, with a stipulation that the contract will NOT be voided due to injury or illness and hope that he came down with a VERY MILD case of COVID just prior to the race.
 
What would you do if you were the owner of IPT and Froome came to you and said

"If you take me to this year's TDF, I promise to retire immediately after and forgo the rest of my contract."

Would you take Froome up on it? or would you tell him "As tempting as that sounds, we have other riders that deserve to go."
Ha. Why talk, just send him to every nothing race you need to enter. It's sunk money anyways (silly team owner).
 
What would you do if you were the owner of IPT and Froome came to you and said

"If you take me to this year's TDF, I promise to retire immediately after and forgo the rest of my contract."

Would you take Froome up on it? or would you tell him "As tempting as that sounds, we have other riders that deserve to go."
But isn’t it (in most cases) the team manager who gets to decide where he rides, not the owner? And it’s not the team manager who is paying for the ridiculous contract, so he won’t save $$ by getting his early retirement. The team can just keep him in the doghouse the next two years, let him go to some minor races.
 
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According to PCS he will do Tour of Rwanda again, and then straight to Tour de France.

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Obviously PCS is not a good source because they only add whatever is rumoured in the medias and don't have any contact with teams or riders.

However at this point I doubt froome even knows his race programme for the spring beyond the first race or two. To have everything planned out until July is a privilege only the top performers in each team can have.

Would be good to see him in races constantly through the spring.

I remember in January 2018 he was doing the most ridiculous training blocks at 1800m in South Africa, doing something like 1200km weeks on the bike. And then he went in andalucia his first race and barely scraped a top 10. Strange

I wonder how close he gets to that trainings now. Getting those real hard miles on the legs, to get the form back to fight for the fifth
 
He'll switch nationality and help revive the Rwandan national team back to their former glory. LA 2028 medal contenders.
Questions I have for Froome..
Do you think Roglic should hang it up? After all he is 34 and can't get a good bike fit wearing an adult diaper under his bibs.
Do you think that young Rwandan hopefuls will be able to take you seriously for advice?
Who in your management thought that the Tour Down Under should not have been on your schedule? The climbs and distances look about right for your skill set of late.
There are so many components on a bicycle, what part or parts will you blame for getting shot out the back?
Do you keep sandals \ flip flops\ shower shoes in the team car? Because you just know..
Do you have a favorite podcast to enjoy once your bike is on the rack and ready to roll?
 
I think a lot of posters are joking around about Chris Froome but, just to be clear, what we should all keep in mind is that Froome will be approaching 40 by the time he could possibly be in shape to do anything close to what we saw in the 2018 Giro. Even in that race his ride on stage 19 to Finestra shocked everyone. Before that day and even in earlier MTFs it seemed clear Froome was in decline compared to his peak. I think Froome peaked a few years earlier and was not quite as good in the following grand tours he won. I see no evidence Froome will have longevity to rival Valverde. And Valverde never had Froome’s peak level. I think the hype has endured due to Froome himself. He was getting paid a lot of money.

I was never a fan of Froome but am always sad when crashes cut short the possibilities for riders. Same with Bernal and even Richie Porte (even if Porte contributed to his own demise in 2017 TdF).

What ifs are a frustrating part of the sport.
 
I think a lot of posters are joking around about Chris Froome but, just to be clear, what we should all keep in mind is that Froome will be approaching 40 by the time he could possibly be in shape to do anything close to what we saw in the 2018 Giro. Even in that race his ride on stage 19 to Finestra shocked everyone. Before that day and even in earlier MTFs it seemed clear Froome was in decline compared to his peak. I think Froome peaked a few years earlier and was not quite as good in the following grand tours he won. I see no evidence Froome will have longevity to rival Valverde. And Valverde never had Froome’s peak level. I think the hype has endured due to Froome himself. He was getting paid a lot of money.

I was never a fan of Froome but am always sad when crashes cut short the possibilities for riders. Same with Bernal and even Richie Porte (even if Porte contributed to his own demise in 2017 TdF).

What ifs are a frustrating part of the sport.
Horner won the vuelta with 43 years.

Now more seriously, froome is finished, but i disagree that he was declining in 2018.

He started the giro a bit cooked to try to do the double Giro/Tour, but then the crashes during the Giro didn’t help. By the end of the Giro, fortunately he recovered from the crashes.

In the Tour 2019, he did podium, and he was cooked because of the fourth consecutive GT he did(tour 2017, vuelta 2017, giro 2018, tour 2018).

In 2019 during May, he was doing his best numbers ever, Brailsford and Froome had confirmed that. Unfortunately the crash prevented him from winning the fifth Tour de France.

It's was a shame the crash, because in my opinion he could had won 6 Tours de France (the four he won + Tour 2012, Tour 2019). He could had won so easily the Tour 2012.

Without the crash in 2019, i don't think he could beat Pogacar in 2020 and 2021, certainly he could not beat Vingegaard in 2022 and 2023, but like i said, i think he would had won the Tour 2019.
 
I think a lot of posters are joking around about Chris Froome but, just to be clear, what we should all keep in mind is that Froome will be approaching 40 by the time he could possibly be in shape to do anything close to what we saw in the 2018 Giro. Even in that race his ride on stage 19 to Finestra shocked everyone. Before that day and even in earlier MTFs it seemed clear Froome was in decline compared to his peak. I think Froome peaked a few years earlier and was not quite as good in the following grand tours he won. I see no evidence Froome will have longevity to rival Valverde. And Valverde never had Froome’s peak level. I think the hype has endured due to Froome himself. He was getting paid a lot of money.

I was never a fan of Froome but am always sad when crashes cut short the possibilities for riders. Same with Bernal and even Richie Porte (even if Porte contributed to his own demise in 2017 TdF).

What ifs are a frustrating part of the sport.
Just for clarity, I am making jokes about Froome's age and diminishing abilities. His lack of contribution to his team results, his individual results, additionally I am making jokes about diminishing his legacy, his marketability for current future sponsors in every aspect of cycling. In my opinion he is lowering the sponsorship potential of any Rwandan development program, the longer Froome stays on the bike the lower attraction value to sponsors, Froome can call Armstrong or many in his circle and they will have stories about what happens if you stay at the party too long.
And Valverde and Chris Horner is not much of a data set for why riding bikes and coloring your hair go together!!
 
Just for clarity, I am making jokes about Froome's age and diminishing abilities. His lack of contribution to his team results, his individual results, additionally I am making jokes about diminishing his legacy, his marketability for current future sponsors in every aspect of cycling. In my opinion he is lowering the sponsorship potential of any Rwandan development program, the longer Froome stays on the bike the lower attraction value to sponsors, Froome can call Armstrong or many in his circle and they will have stories about what happens if you stay at the party too long.
And Valverde and Chris Horner is not much of a data set for why riding bikes and coloring your hair go together!!
Chris is only outpaced by the other Chris you mention on hair loss, by the way. But your point is totally valid and true for any athlete.
 
Horner won the vuelta with 43 years.

Now more seriously, froome is finished, but i disagree that he was declining in 2018.

He started the giro a bit cooked to try to do the double Giro/Tour, but then the crashes during the Giro didn’t help. By the end of the Giro, fortunately he recovered from the crashes.

In the Tour 2019, he did podium, and he was cooked because of the fourth consecutive GT he did(tour 2017, vuelta 2017, giro 2018, tour 2018).

In 2019 during May, he was doing his best numbers ever, Brailsford and Froome had confirmed that. Unfortunately the crash prevented him from winning the fifth Tour de France.

It's was a shame the crash, because in my opinion he could had won 6 Tours de France (the four he won + Tour 2012, Tour 2019). He could had won so easily the Tour 2012.

Without the crash in 2019, i don't think he could beat Pogacar in 2020 and 2021, certainly he could not beat Vingegaard in 2022 and 2023, but like i said, i think he would had won the Tour 2019.
Horner won the Vuelta....how did that happen? He won't tell. "doing his best numbers" on Brailsford's squad can mean as many things as you can imagine.
 
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I was joking, we all know why that happened.

Brailsford and froome said that, and i followed his strava in 2019, he was "beating" a lot of KOMs on teide in may of 2019.
Richie Porte was also beating a lot of Strava KOMs in 2018 - not sure that tells you much. I also take anything spin Dr Brailsford claims with a grain of salt. He made many claims.
 
I think a lot of posters are joking around about Chris Froome but, just to be clear, what we should all keep in mind is that Froome will be approaching 40 by the time he could possibly be in shape to do anything close to what we saw in the 2018 Giro. Even in that race his ride on stage 19 to Finestra shocked everyone. Before that day and even in earlier MTFs it seemed clear Froome was in decline compared to his peak. I think Froome peaked a few years earlier and was not quite as good in the following grand tours he won. I see no evidence Froome will have longevity to rival Valverde. And Valverde never had Froome’s peak level. I think the hype has endured due to Froome himself. He was getting paid a lot of money.

I was never a fan of Froome but am always sad when crashes cut short the possibilities for riders. Same with Bernal and even Richie Porte (even if Porte contributed to his own demise in 2017 TdF).

What ifs are a frustrating part of the sport.

Yeah, he was definitely on the decline. In the spring of 2019, he was barely making the time limit in Catalunya - and that was before his crash. He then did manage to get to a decent level in Dauphiné before he crashed out, but it took him much longer to get there than a few years before.