Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[gunara]

Say it aint so!
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...ficult-chris-froome-realistic-about-his-level

"very very difficult", which means still within reach, sounds like he thinks he's at Remco's level now.

 

[Lequack]

“It would have been really interesting to have raced against them in my best years" - Chris Froome confident he could have challenged Pogacar & Vingegaard for Tour de France

“It would have been really interesting to have raced against them in my best years" - Chris Froome confident he could have challenged Pogacar & Vingegaard for Tour de France

The recent chapters in the long story of the Tour de

cyclinguptodate.com

 

[YavorD]

Yeah, he was struggling in the 3rd week after a rather controlled racing. Vingegaard would literally destroy him

 

[red_flanders]

“It would have been really interesting to have raced against them in my best years" - Chris Froome confident he could have challenged Pogacar & Vingegaard for Tour de France

“It would have been really interesting to have raced against them in my best years" - Chris Froome confident he could have challenged Pogacar & Vingegaard for Tour de France

The recent chapters in the long story of the Tour de

cyclinguptodate.com

Thank you, my faith in this lying, delusional clown has been restored.

For a minute there it almost seemed as if he was approaching being honest and candid about...well, something. Anything. Clearly that wasn't gonna last more than a few seconds. Wonder if they caught him when he was drunk for the original "I'm not gonna challenge for the Tour anymore" comments...

 

[Lequack]

Thank you, my faith in this lying, delusional clown has been restored.

For a minute there it almost seemed as if he was approaching being honest and candid about...well, something. Anything. Clearly that wasn't gonna last more than a few seconds. Wonder if they caught him when he was drunk for the original "I'm not gonna challenge for the Tour anymore" comments...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G60z48yymVs

 

[Taxus4a]

Yeah, he was struggling in the 3rd week after a rather controlled racing. Vingegaard would literally destroy him

Not sure. Cycling has changed and they go quickly, but Froome was a destroyer. Of course he would have been fighteen with them. When I talkef with an IPT director they told me if he come back he doesnt fear Pogacar. Vingegard is a super rider for 3 weeks but who knows.

 

[Taxus4a]

Yeah, he was struggling in the 3rd week after a rather controlled racing. Vingegaard would literally destroy him

When he struggled at the third week? I think Vingegaard is better, but no very different.

 

[Taxus4a]

"very very difficult", which means still within reach, sounds like he thinks he's at Remco's level now.

He needs to be at Pereiro level and be luck, so for me is not imposible, but he should improve the level he had at 2022 Tour. He has been at one minute of Vingegaard at a long stage with a Broken wrist, far of his best shape, so who knows. But he needs races for that.

 

[Fantastico]

When he struggled at the third week? I think Vingegaard is better, but no very different.

For example 2015 when he lost 2 minutes to Quintana in the last two mountain stages.

 

[ice&fire]

"very very difficult", which means still within reach, sounds like he thinks he's at Remco's level now.

Remco with a broken collarbone is still better than Froome

 

[Armchair cyclist]

“It would have been really interesting to have raced against them in my best years"

Because they were 17 and 19 year old part-timers at the time?

 

[Taxus4a]

Tour de France 2022 Stage 21 results

Jonas Vingegaard is the winner of Tour de France 2022, before Tadej PogaÄar and Geraint Thomas. Jasper Philipsen is the winner of the final stage.

www.procyclingstats.com

Thomas was third of Tour de France 2 years ago, and was close to win Giro at Roglic last year. It wanst his best level ever, but of course maybe close. And best Froome ever id better than best Thomas ever, even when Thomas won le Tour. Thomas was a domestique for Froome. So of course is ridiculous to say for. sure he wanst at the level of this people. I think he would be better than Pogacar at hard mountain stages, with long climbs ( always with hot weather for Froome, of course) and similar to Vingegard. But Vingegaard level for le Tour is one of the best of history, so It wouldbt be easy.

 

[YavorD]

When he struggled at the third week? I think Vingegaard is better, but no very different.

In 2013 he needed Porte to get him a gel or something, while losing 1 minute to Quintana and Purito on AdH. In the next mountain stage he lost 30 more seconds. And no, he didn't ride "conservatively" he gave it a go and he was weaker.

In 2015 Froome nearly lost the Tour to Quintana, losing 2 minutes again


Yeah, Froome was very strong in the first MTF, destroying the peloton and gaining a minute+ on Quintana, but this version of Vingegaard doesn't bleed a minute on anybody in the last 15 (maybe even more) years.

 

[SHAD0W93]

He needs to be at Pereiro level and be luck, so for me is not imposible, but he should improve the level he had at 2022 Tour. He has been at one minute of Vingegaard at a long stage with a Broken wrist, far of his best shape, so who knows. But he needs races for that.

Except he’d need a 1+ hr breakaway win and hope the rest OTL.

Tour de France 2022 Stage 21 results

Jonas Vingegaard is the winner of Tour de France 2022, before Tadej PogaÄar and Geraint Thomas. Jasper Philipsen is the winner of the final stage.

www.procyclingstats.com

Thomas was third of Tour de France 2 years ago, and was close to win Giro at Roglic last year. It wanst his best level ever, but of course maybe close. And best Froome ever id better than best Thomas ever, even when Thomas won le Tour. Thomas was a domestique for Froome. So of course is ridiculous to say for. sure he wanst at the level of this people. I think he would be better than Pogacar at hard mountain stages, with long climbs ( always with hot weather for Froome, of course) and similar to Vingegard. But Vingegaard level for le Tour is one of the best of history, so It wouldbt be easy.

Thomas won his Tour without breaking a sweat and looked dominate throughout the whole experience. He and Sky just rode to help get Froome on the podium. Thomas has always looked to have improved his 2018 shape. If Froome was still on Ineos, he wouldn’t even be the domestique for Thomas due to not riding any GT, maybe not even any race.

 

[Stasat]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G60z48yymVs

Oscar worthy. Fake breathing and his Garmin says 99bpm HR. Sad really.

 

[Taxus4a]

Except he’d need a 1+ hr breakaway win and hope the rest OTL.


Thomas won his Tour without breaking a sweat and looked dominate throughout the whole experience. He and Sky just rode to help get Froome on the podium. Thomas has always looked to have improved his 2018 shape. If Froome was still on Ineos, he wouldn’t even be the domestique for Thomas due to not riding any GT, maybe not even any race.

It is what you think....
You can be very similar at 40 than at 30, but always a litttle bit better at 30. I mean, if Horner would hahve had a normal career, he would have been to win le Tour, or close, at 30, he got his best at 38 so he just could won la Vuelta, which is the race better suits him.
I think best Thomas for GT is the rider who won le Tour, he was lucky to be in the best team with another team mate on the fight.

Thomas has the merit he has readapted to the new era and change his habits, especially nutrition. SKY was the best in all of that but now everything has improved and SKY methods are old now and no so competitive, but I dont think he is better for that, it is better compared his generation who didnt readapt. everybody is getting his best numbers now., even people who was podium and now is 10th.

But if you consider Thomas has improved...Froome could improve as well, couldnt he?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

When I talkef with an IPT director they told me if he come back he doesnt fear Pogacar.

Wow. No wonder mou is not here posting anymore. Froome knows that Pogacar is not a threat to him in 3 weeks race

 

[Tim Cahill]

Impossible to compare eras, have to consider that Contador/Nibali/Froome would also have access to whatever training, nutrition and other such methods the current guys have.

 

[Taxus4a]

Wow. No wonder mou is not here posting anymore. Froome knows that Pogacar is not a threat to him in 3 weeks race

Pogacar is the best rider I ever been ride. it woudl be more favourite than Froome. But Froome is more a kind of rider as Vingegard. If the race has 2 long stages with long climbs it would have had his options. But in other kind of stages Pogacar is better, it is a monster. But Froome at his age and with thar crash is not going to come back at his best level. Or it is almost impossible. But he could reach an step worse and figh for something nice.

 

[SHAD0W93]

But if you consider Thomas has improved...Froome could improve as well, couldnt he?

He has improved. He’s not OTL or finishing dead last as often anymore.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

He has improved. He’s not OTL or finishing dead last as often anymore.

 

[Froome]

Not sure. Cycling has changed and they go quickly, but Froome was a destroyer. Of course he would have been fighteen with them. When I talkef with an IPT director they told me if he come back he doesnt fear Pogacar. Vingegard is a super rider for 3 weeks but who knows.

Froome wouldn't had a chance against Pogacar and even less against Vingegaard.

 

[AmRacer]

Froome wouldn't had a chance against Pogacar and even less against Vingegaard.

We know you wouldn't. I thought you did hang up your wheels.

 

[Froome]

We know you wouldn't. I thought you did hang up your wheels.

Damn bilharzia, but i'm already recovered.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Damn bilharzia, but i'm already recovered.

It‘s like training with the hand brake on, they say. Once the hand brake comes off, you‘re much better than before.