Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 34.4%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 65 53.3%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 28 23.0%

  • Total voters
    122
Thing about Froome is that he's not really British and therefore doesn't have the same antipathy to doping as an honest Northern grafter like Brad. He might as well be Australian (the accent), or Italian, with that selfish "win at all costs" even if it's by cheating" attitude. You only had to watch that showboating in the Tour, or read his bird's tweets (what kind of bloke puts up with a WAG like that?) to see where his head is at.
Still, it'll be fun to watch him being plugged by Contador.
 
armchairclimber said:
Thing about Froome is that he's not really British and therefore doesn't have the same antipathy to doping as an honest Northern grafter like Brad. He might as well be Australian (the accent), or Italian, with that selfish "win at all costs" even if it's by cheating" attitude. You only had to watch that showboating in the Tour, or read his bird's tweets (what kind of bloke puts up with a WAG like that?) to see where his head is at.
Still, it'll be fun to watch him being plugged by Contador.

Och man. Apologies in advance but this post has been reported as being in breach of various forum etiquette rules. Whilst I've no doubt your post is firmly tongue in cheek, it has offended, so maybe tone it a down a wee bit next time? Cheers

Looking forward to this though:):

Still, it'll be fun to watch him being plugged by Contador.[/QUOTE
 
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armchairclimber said:
Thing about Froome is that he's not really British and therefore doesn't have the same antipathy to doping as an honest Northern grafter like Brad. He might as well be Australian (the accent), or Italian, with that selfish "win at all costs" even if it's by cheating" attitude. You only had to watch that showboating in the Tour, or read his bird's tweets (what kind of bloke puts up with a WAG like that?) to see where his head is at.
Still, it'll be fun to watch him being plugged by Contador.

I sincerely hope that this post was meant as a joke.
 
The Hitch said:
Brads first year at sky was also **** and he was 5 years older. It takes time for swimming to help, especially for an Antioqueno ;)

Brad clearly underperformed in 2010 though, not sure we can say the same about Henao this year. That he will improve is probably not in doubt. That he will improve enough to drop a strong second tier climber like Wiggins? If that's to happen I think half would be Wiggins struggling on hard, high altitude days.
 
Vino attacks everyone said:
Henao, Uran AND porte ono ne team?

Plausible, that happened in 2012 Vuelta.
Porte and Froome weren't originally intended to race in the 2012 Vuelta though, until it was decided to give leadership to Froome, and Porte was inserted together with him. So does make me wonder if the two of them are separable...
 
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wwabbit said:
Plausible, that happened in 2012 Vuelta.
Porte and Froome weren't originally intended to race in the 2012 Vuelta though, until it was decided to give leadership to Froome, and Porte was inserted together with him. So does make me wonder if the two of them are separable...

Porte can still do Giro-Tour, without separating them.
 
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sky also have kiriyenka and cataldo though as mtn domestiques. youd think being italian cataldo would go to the giro which would suggest that to be numerically fair uran/henao would be split up
 
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MartinGT said:
Yes and nothing :rolleyes:

armchairclimber said:
Thing about Froome is that he's not really British and therefore doesn't have the same antipathy to doping as an honest Northern grafter like Brad. He might as well be Australian (the accent), or Italian, with that selfish "win at all costs" even if it's by cheating" attitude. You only had to watch that showboating in the Tour, or read his bird's tweets (what kind of bloke puts up with a WAG like that?) to see where his head is at.
Still, it'll be fun to watch him being plugged by Contador.
Not Italian, at least not what is I conceive as Italian cyclist. He lacks that riding position and ease on the pedals. some people say that even slow Italians look fast on the bike.
 
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BlenJones2 said:
sky also have kiriyenka and cataldo though as mtn domestiques. youd think being italian cataldo would go to the giro which would suggest that to be numerically fair uran/henao would be split up

Agree, Sky have plenty of climbers, if Froome doesn't have Porte it won't be too detrimental to his chances. And Froome isn't going to need as much help in the tour as Wiggins did.
 
Afrank said:
Agree, Sky have plenty of climbers, if Froome doesn't have Porte it won't be too detrimental to his chances. And Froome isn't going to need as much help in the tour as Wiggins did.

Maybe he does not need Porte but I wouldn't be underestimating how well the domestiques like Rogers and Porte and others, rode for Wiggins last season. Froome can't win the Tour on his own. Sky do have plenty of good climbers but Porte and Rogers were outstanding in the roles they played for Sky.
 

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anyway they would have won the race even without Porte and Rogers — simply at the expense of TT. The rest teams very weak. Only Liquigas budged a little bit. RSNT would have been the strongest team no doubt, if they had had a leader
 
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Let the dog fight starts:D

""I do not assume that Bradley will help me in the Tour," said Froome to Sporza. "It is not yet decided whether he will defend his title in France. He may aim at the Giro. If the goal of the team is for me to go for yellow, then I can count on the help of Bradley. I would like to get the green light to go for victory in the Tour. Even if I fail, and only finish only fifth or sixth, I'll be happy as long as I am able give everything."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-wont-assume-tour-de-france-leadership
 

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Those who think Froome will win the Tour kind of vote his for potential [quite real potential rather than conjectural one], uncovered entirely even after 2 2nd places in GTs. Iow, we don't know how he would have ridden if he were a captain. If we reason based on the results primarily, it wouldn't be a mistake to say than both Valverde and Rodriguez are better GT riders, would it? ;) However I don't get why it didn't happen. If these 2 could overcome a vuelta hilly TT at Froome's level, 30k to Mont Saint-Michelle also wouldn't be an insuperable barrier for them. But somehow no one is in hurry to enroll these spaniars to the list of favorites.
 
maxmartin said:
Let the dog fight starts:D

""I do not assume that Bradley will help me in the Tour," said Froome to Sporza. "It is not yet decided whether he will defend his title in France. He may aim at the Giro. If the goal of the team is for me to go for yellow, then I can count on the help of Bradley. I would like to get the green light to go for victory in the Tour. Even if I fail, and only finish only fifth or sixth, I'll be happy as long as I am able give everything."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-wont-assume-tour-de-france-leadership

Looks to me like Wiggo & Brailsford are waiting for the final ruling on Saxo's License to make up their mind on the Tour title defense-that's all. Froome well knows that as soon as Contador gets the green line to participate, Brad will abandon his tour campaign for fear of embarrassment & rather go for the Giro against Nibali.....
 
theyoungest said:
The one time he was the sole leader for his team (in the Vuelta) he kinda failed... but we'll see. Wiggins isn't a natural leader either, and see what he did.

Yep, 4th place 1 month after being the best climber at the Tour and medaling the Olympics is a bit of a fail.

Trying to remember how the best GT rider of his generation managed a couple of years ago when he tried back to back GTs, but I can't quite remember. Must have been much better, I'm sure.
 
Waterloo Sunrise said:
Yep, 4th place 1 month after being the best climber at the Tour and medaling the Olympics is a bit of a fail.

Trying to remember how the best GT rider of his generation managed a couple of years ago when he tried back to back GTs, but I can't quite remember. Must have been much better, I'm sure.

It's a fail if you consider Sky management's plans of grand tour domination. I wouldn't call it a fail though on Froome's part, just on Sky management's.
 
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hfer07 said:
Looks to me like Wiggo & Brailsford are waiting for the final ruling on Saxo's License to make up their mind on the Tour title defense-that's all. Froome well knows that as soon as Contador gets the green line to participate, Brad will abandon his tour campaign for fear of embarrassment & rather go for the Giro against Nibali.....

I never thought about that:D
 
I sugested on a Sky Sports story about Froome becomming tdf captain, that it was because Sky and Brailsford knew Wiggins did not stand a chance against real competition. Then I added, that neither did Froome.

I have never received 80 negative votes and zero positives before. :D