Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[Taxus4a]

Really good article, took me for a while to read it, but worth it.

Thank you.

Yes, it is not to read in a moment, but a good analysis take time...
And sorry about it is not in english

I put it in the clinic:

Sky/Froome Talk Only (No Way Sky Are Clean?)

 

[RHRH19861986]

Froome does neither Catalunya nor Pais Vasco, that´s strange for someone who wants to win the Tour. Does he just ride Romandie and Dauphine before July?

 

[Taxus4a]

Froome does neither Catalunya nor Pais Vasco, that´s strange for someone who wants to win the Tour. Does he just ride Romandie and Dauphine before July?

SKY have several leaders, so all of them have his oportunity and they share out the races, but anyway is likely Froome to be in Liege, as well as Wiggins, but helping Urán, Henao and Tiernan Locke (maybe this one just in Fleche), the leaders there... or maybe five leaders and the road will chose.

Froome is doing the same that Wiggins last year and it worked, so...why not? what is going to do Contador or Andy? Evans say he is better with two grand Tours in his legs, so he'll ride the Giro...Valverde and Purito have diferent fisiology...

 

[RHRH19861986]

SKY have several leaders, so all of them have his oportunity and they share out the races, but anyway is likely Froome to be in Liege, as well as Wiggins, but helping Urán, Henao and Tiernan Locke (maybe this one just in Fleche), the leaders there... or maybe five leaders and the road will chose.

Froome is doing the same that Wiggins last year and it worked, so...why not? what is going to do Contador or Andy? Evans say he is better with two grand Tours in his legs, so he'll ride the Giro...Valverde and Purito have diferent fisiology...

OK, but Wiggina did Catalunya in 2012 (abandoned, however, if I´m right).

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

I'm now thinking that the Froomebot could have done a pantani and won both the Giro and Tour this year.

He is a class above...

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I'm now thinking that the Froomebot could have done a pantani and won both the Giro and Tour this year.

He is a class above...

dude. never compare him with pantani again. you clealry never saw him ride. pantani destroyed his opponents in the mountains. guys like kiserlovski, spilak and wyss could've never followed him

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I'm now thinking that the Froomebot could have done a pantani and won both the Giro and Tour this year.

He is a class above...

HE tried back to back gt riding last year, did not work at all. Do not insult Pantani by comparing Froome to him please (Pantani would not have let freakin Spilak follow him)

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

dude. never compare him with pantani again. you clealry never saw him ride. pantani destroyed his opponents in the mountains. guys like kiserlovski, spilak and wyss could've never followed him

lol. He was the the last person to do it, hence the reference.

Froome is stronger this year and unless Contador has a significant turnaround there is little competition for him.

If you are comparing Pantani and Vroome then why not acknowledge that the latter would have destroyed Marco in the TT?

 

[airstream]

I'm now thinking that the Froomebot could have done a pantani and won both the Giro and Tour this year.

He is a class above...

I don't think the team promoting clean cycling will try to do that.

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

I don't think the team promoting clean cycling will try to do that.

I should be clear when I say doing a Pantani, meaning winning both Giro and Tour in same year. Not anything more suspect.

Also, if Wiggins gets a sniff at yellow then he will happily attempt the double

 

[The Hitch]

Pantani also failed at the double the first time.

 

[airstream]

I should be clear when I say doing a Pantani, meaning winning both Giro and Tour in same year. Not anything more suspect.

Also, if Wiggins gets a sniff at yellow then he will happily attempt the double

It was a different story. Pantani sort of had to start the Giro like Italian who adored his home race. The Tour was like bonus for him. Froome hypothetically can start the Giro only in case he would get enough Tour wins which is a big question and a matter of not nearest future. Nowdays Tour oriented GT riders very rarely start the Giro voluntarily. It is my thought.

 

[RHRH19861986]

If you are comparing Pantani and Vroome then why not acknowledge that the latter would have destroyed Marco in the TT?

When Pantani really was in shape, he wasn´t destroyed in ITTs, not even in long, pancake flat ITTs.

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

It was a different story. Pantani sort of had to start the Giro like Italian who adored his home race. The Tour was like bonus for him. Froome hypothetically can start the Giro only in case he would get enough Tour wins which is a big question and a matter of not nearest future. Nowdays Tour oriented GT riders very rarely start the Giro voluntarily. It is my thought.

I agree with you. It would not have been smart to jeopardise his likely Tour win for the sake of the Giro. That said I still think he could have done it.

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

When Pantani really was in shape, he wasn´t destroyed in ITTs, not even in long, pancake flat ITTs.

I was countering the argument that Pantani would have destroyed Froome in the mountains. He was better no doubt, but the margin would not have been as spectacular as Ryo Hazuki Implied

 

[RHRH19861986]

I was countering the argument that Pantani would have destroyed Froome in the mountains. He was better no doubt, but the margin would not have been as spectacular as Ryo Hazuki Implied

Hard to say, and to compare. Pantani, on a good day in the mountains, was really spectacular, and not literally, but also in fact a whole class above the remaining world class (!) opponents.

Froome and Pantani are actually 180 degrees different. Pantani was pure passion, Froome is just boredom.

 

[brilleaben]

Calculation vs. instinct riding.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Calculation vs. instinct riding.

maybe, but nobody knows what Froome can do at this point.

Lets take the train away early. Would he attack at the base of AdH? Who knows.

 

[The Hitch]

maybe, but nobody knows what Froome can do at this point.

Lets take the train away early. Would he attack at the base of AdH? Who knows.

He'll be in yellow and defending in alpe d huez.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

He'll be in yellow and defending in alpe d huez.

why would that prevent the strongest rider from attacking at the base?

 

[Netserk]

why would that prevent the strongest rider from attacking at the base?

... Of the first ascent

 

[Dazed and Confused]

... Of the first ascent

nah, he still hasn't learned how to descent....

 

[will10]

why would that prevent the strongest rider from attacking at the base?

The same reason Postal flushed Landis' top-up bag in 2004.

 

[IndianCyclist]

I should be clear when I say doing a Pantani, meaning winning both Giro and Tour in same year. Not anything more suspect.

Also, if Wiggins gets a sniff at yellow then he will happily attempt the double

I dont think both of the can. Froome tried last year. He was destroyed. In terms of talent both of them are much below Pantani. It would be very difficult to sustain marginal gains over 3 months without talent.

 

[Ripper]

I'm now thinking that the Froomebot could have done a pantani and won both the Giro and Tour this year.

He is a class above...

A biochem and medical class above