Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 34.4%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 65 53.3%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 28 23.0%

  • Total voters
    122
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ferryman said:
Parker said:
After at least one stage Froome rode 30km back the hotel rather than take the bus, so this race was more about training than winning. He also looked like he was doing interval training on some stages. So it would seem he's a bit behind schedule, but not by much. Elissonde's form is a big plus for him.

As for Dumoulin, this will be the first GT that he starts as one of the big favourites. He benefited last year from Nibali and Quintana looking at each other too much. He doesn't get to be underrated again.

Yeah, a 30K warm down ride back to the hotel shows he's taking this as serious training. As for the interval training, oh my.
No. It shows that winning wasn't his priority.

And he spent much of the week making tactically daft accelerations.
 
Uff. If there were Fuglsang or Bardet to attack over a col I would say Froome is in big difficulties at the Giro. Simply as you can't really control the corsa rosa with conservative racing, like he did at the Tour last year. In the current field though, Froome probably is the best descender. Lopez not only needs to bring his climbing boots, but also should repeat his Tour of Switzerland TT! Simon Yates could be a dark horse.
 
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staubsauger said:
Uff. If there were Fuglsang or Bardet to attack over a col I would say Froome is in big difficulties at the Giro. Simply as you can't really control the corsa rosa with conservative racing, like he did at the Tour last year. In the current field though, Froome probably is the best descender. Lopez not only needs to bring his climbing boots, but also should repeat his Tour of Switzerland TT! Simon Yates could be a dark horse.

Do not, and I repeat do not, underestimate Aru, he will be a major player, if not the major player this year. He's not scared.
 
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Rollthedice said:
That's almost the best he can do, time waits for no one but there's still hope. If he doesn't get lost in the deserts of the Holy Land his TT will keep him in contention back in the Roman Empire. Question is, can he survive the Zonc?
Judae was always a problem for the Empire....so Froome could be well out of the race when the race gets back to Europe.
 
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Rollthedice said:
That's almost the best he can do, time waits for no one but there's still hope. If he doesn't get lost in the deserts of the Holy Land his TT will keep him in contention back in the Roman Empire. Question is, can he survive the Zonc?
Judea actually was part of Roman Empire.
 
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Zama_Olyas said:
Rollthedice said:
That's almost the best he can do, time waits for no one but there's still hope. If he doesn't get lost in the deserts of the Holy Land his TT will keep him in contention back in the Roman Empire. Question is, can he survive the Zonc?
Judae was always a problem for the Empire....so Froome could be well out of the race when the race gets back to Europe.
It's Judea.
 
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Kokoso said:
Zama_Olyas said:
Rollthedice said:
That's almost the best he can do, time waits for no one but there's still hope. If he doesn't get lost in the deserts of the Holy Land his TT will keep him in contention back in the Roman Empire. Question is, can he survive the Zonc?
Judae was always a problem for the Empire....so Froome could be well out of the race when the race gets back to Europe.
It's Judea.
Am i going to prison for it?
 
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Zama_Olyas said:
Kokoso said:
Zama_Olyas said:
Rollthedice said:
That's almost the best he can do, time waits for no one but there's still hope. If he doesn't get lost in the deserts of the Holy Land his TT will keep him in contention back in the Roman Empire. Question is, can he survive the Zonc?
Judae was always a problem for the Empire....so Froome could be well out of the race when the race gets back to Europe.
It's Judea.
Am i going to prison for it?
Was I harsh on you or something that you are asking this?
 
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Rollthedice said:
That's almost the best he can do, time waits for no one but there's still hope. If he doesn't get lost in the deserts of the Holy Land his TT will keep him in contention back in the Roman Empire. Question is, can he survive the Zonc?
If Froome can step up and bring his A game, he can survive any damn climb in the world and can go over it faster than any of his competition. :)
 
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silvergrenade said:
Rollthedice said:
That's almost the best he can do, time waits for no one but there's still hope. If he doesn't get lost in the deserts of the Holy Land his TT will keep him in contention back in the Roman Empire. Question is, can he survive the Zonc?
If Froome can step up and bring his A game, he can survive any damn climb in the world and can go over it faster than any of his competition. :)

;)
 
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Kokoso said:
Zama_Olyas said:
Kokoso said:
Zama_Olyas said:
Rollthedice said:
That's almost the best he can do, time waits for no one but there's still hope. If he doesn't get lost in the deserts of the Holy Land his TT will keep him in contention back in the Roman Empire. Question is, can he survive the Zonc?
Judae was always a problem for the Empire....so Froome could be well out of the race when the race gets back to Europe.
It's Judea.
Am i going to prison for it?
Was I harsh on you or something that you are asking this?
Because you felt the need to correct me for one minor spelling mistake..speaks volume..one is likely to think
 
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rick james said:
silvergrenade said:
Rollthedice said:
That's almost the best he can do, time waits for no one but there's still hope. If he doesn't get lost in the deserts of the Holy Land his TT will keep him in contention back in the Roman Empire. Question is, can he survive the Zonc?
If Froome can step up and bring his A game, he can survive any damn climb in the world and can go over it faster than any of his competition. :)

;)
Сlassic Rollthedice. Froome collapsing on Zoncolan in anticipation of brilliant LBL from Nibali.
 
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HelloDolly said:
Pinit is the man to watch at the Giro imo
Dont think so. Pinot doesn't have the top-level to win and has some weaknesses (his descending which could prove problematic on a few stages), but obviously is very stabile, at least when it doesn't come to TdF. I think Dumo and Lopez are the men to beat.

Chris Froome should by the way be banned for putting cycling into miscredit for that attack on Pampeago in Trentino. I mean, he shifted to an easier gear prior to putting on his 150 RPM-attack. That was horrible to watch
 
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Valv.Piti said:
HelloDolly said:
Pinit is the man to watch at the Giro imo
Dont think so. Pinot doesn't have the top-level to win and has some weaknesses (his descending which could prove problematic on a few stages), but obviously is very stabile, at least when it doesn't come to TdF. I think Dumo and Lopez are the men to beat.

Chris Froome should by the way be banned for putting cycling into miscredit for that attack on Pampeago in Trentino. I mean, he shifted to an easier gear prior to putting on his 150 RPM-attack. That was horrible to watch

Froome was obviously a tricycle rider in his early days.............I don't see Lopez as a threat to the podium, not this year anyway. Pinot is always a chance but rarely delivers when it seems likely. If's it not the heat, he gets sick or he does a great stage and then flops on the next stage. I would like to see him podium but I often have doubts. I think Dumo and Froome, and Aru is another one like Pinot who is unpredictable. Yes descending for Pinot is not a strength but the three weeks seems to be the big problem although his ride in the Giro last year was very good. He had a very good opportunity in that Giro cause it was obvious that Quintana and Nibali were not at their best but Dumoulin was the one that rode the smart race.
 
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Brullnux said:
Kokoso said:
Zama_Olyas said:
Because you felt the need to correct me for one minor spelling mistake..speaks volume..one is likely to think
No chance I wasn not correcting you not for spelling, but factual mistake?
Considering judae is only a word in latin, it's clearly a spelling mistake
ok lets put it straight: I was correcting factual mistake and that's it, end of speculations. Surely you understood my point so what do you think you are doing anyway...

P.S. it can be both factual and spelling mistake. Think about it once or twice.
 
I have to admit, after his performances so far I expected him to be worse. He is still one of the biggest favorites for the win since I now expect him to have a super peak in the third week. If he just keeps riding like this it's definitely not gonna be enough, but I'd be surprised if that is the case.
 
Gigs_98 said:
I have to admit, after his performances so far I expected him to be worse. He is still one of the biggest favorites for the win since I now expect him to have a super peak in the third week. If he just keeps riding like this it's definitely not gonna be enough, but I'd be surprised if that is the case.
Froome has really never been his best in the 3rd week of a GT and with the crashes he's had and the energy that that wastes I find it really hard to believe that that would start now. I think Yates is the favorite for the win right now.
 
Gigs_98 said:
I have to admit, after his performances so far I expected him to be worse. He is still one of the biggest favorites for the win since I now expect him to have a super peak in the third week. If he just keeps riding like this it's definitely not gonna be enough, but I'd be surprised if that is the case.

he´ll get better day by day. he still lacks explositivity, the power to attack. see how he struggled today every time there was an attack, and even when they went for the sprint to the line
 
Red Rick said:
Gigs_98 said:
I have to admit, after his performances so far I expected him to be worse. He is still one of the biggest favorites for the win since I now expect him to have a super peak in the third week. If he just keeps riding like this it's definitely not gonna be enough, but I'd be surprised if that is the case.
Froome has really never been his best in the 3rd week of a GT and with the crashes he's had and the energy that that wastes I find it really hard to believe that that would start now. I think Yates is the favorite for the win right now.
Not sure I agree- in the Vuelta and Tour last week he put time into all of his rivals. Same in the 2016 Tour and to an extent the Vuelta. Only really the 2013 and 2015 TDF did he fade somewhat.
 
Red Rick said:
Gigs_98 said:
I have to admit, after his performances so far I expected him to be worse. He is still one of the biggest favorites for the win since I now expect him to have a super peak in the third week. If he just keeps riding like this it's definitely not gonna be enough, but I'd be surprised if that is the case.
Froome has really never been his best in the 3rd week of a GT and with the crashes he's had and the energy that that wastes I find it really hard to believe that that would start now. I think Yates is the favorite for the win right now.
I just cannot believe that Simon freakin Yates can keep this shape for three weeks. He has never shown climbing as incredible as this and he has never been close to a gt win and all that despite already being a top cyclist a few years now. How often do we see massive improvements like that from one year to another. My brain tells me that this performance must make him the favorite but something tells me we shouldn't make early conclusions
 
Gigs_98 said:
Red Rick said:
Gigs_98 said:
I have to admit, after his performances so far I expected him to be worse. He is still one of the biggest favorites for the win since I now expect him to have a super peak in the third week. If he just keeps riding like this it's definitely not gonna be enough, but I'd be surprised if that is the case.
Froome has really never been his best in the 3rd week of a GT and with the crashes he's had and the energy that that wastes I find it really hard to believe that that would start now. I think Yates is the favorite for the win right now.
I just cannot believe that Simon freakin Yates can keep this shape for three weeks. He has never shown climbing as incredible as this and he has never been close to a gt win and all that despite already being a top cyclist a few years now. How often do we see massive improvements like that from one year to another. My brain tells me that this performance must make him the favorite but something tells me we shouldn't make early conclusions

Looking at respective age, I find it easier to assume Yates will make progress from usual patterns than Froome.

Froome can rely on his TT for nothing more than a top 5, otherwise he'll need a pretty big improvement to fight for the win. He hung on a tempo climb today doing almost no work himself. That doesn't say all that much, especially considering he was lucky to not lose any time in that sprint.

Anyway, we won't have to wait long for more information. Gran Sasso should teach us something.