CMS Doping in sport revelations/discussion

[pastronef]

Terrible for Sky. now Sutton is implicated in doping
They were employing a list of dirty people experienced in performance enhancing
Leinders, Sutton, Julich, Siutsou then Freeman orders some Gels

SIUTSOU???????????
Siutsou tested positive 3 years after. THREE years after leaving Sky. what I mean is, you are right about the rest, leinders, julich, testogels. but SIUTSOU? how can Sky have anything to do with a FUTURE positive? tell me, when Pantano tested positive in 2019 with Trek, did anyone said it´s terrible for IAM Cycling where he raced until 2016?

 

[samhocking]

Terrible for Sky. now Sutton is implicated in doping
They were employing a list of dirty people experienced in performance enhancing
Leinders, Sutton, Julich, Siutsou then Freeman orders some Gels

Sutton's alleged doping has been discussed in a few books for several years 70kmph. iirc Walsh covered some of what was given as witness evidence in Seven Deadly Sins back in 2013. Like Lionel Birnie's Magic Bus articles following Team Sky in 2011 with quite detailed explanations by Freeman as he obtains a TUE for Uran's breathing issues, there isn't a lot of new news covered in the Tribunal related to any doping other than more meat on Suttons. My impression is O'Rourke has been held back from more of it coming out on Sutton due to him not returning to be questioned though.

 

[70kmph]

SIUTSOU???????????
Siutsou tested positive 3 years after. THREE years after leaving Sky. what I mean is, you are right about the rest, leinders, julich, testogels. but SIUTSOU? how can Sky have anything to do with a FUTURE positive? tell me, when Pantano tested positive in 2019 with Trek, did anyone said it´s terrible for IAM Cycling where he raced until 2016?

Its indicative of doping culture, so for example Landis didn't suddenly begin doping after he leaves Postal he just was never caught until he switch teams

 

[samhocking]

Its indicative of doping culture, so for example Landis didn't suddenly begin doping after he leaves Postal he just was never caught until he switch teams

Requires an amount of assumption to fill the gaps for me. Deal in the facts, rather than an assumption you know what they are from unrelated events/timelines and it's usually closer to the truth, but I don't come at it from the sport is still primarily doping illegally against the rules, I think they're primarily enhancing performance without breaking the rules now.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Now it's all looped back around to UK Sport - whose investigation of Jess Varnish's original revelations was so inept it didn't even involve interviewing key personnel - and we're now being told they failed to investigate a whistleblower's allegations that Shane Sutton wasn't just a bully, but also corrupt:

The Guardian has also seen an email from UK Sport’s legal adviser to a member of its governance team and the performance adviser responsible for British Cycling, which recommended the whistleblower be given a “standard response” back. “Hi guys, if Shane Sutton is still employed by British Cycling can you liaise with the sport on this one,” read the email. “I’ll send the UKS standard response – ie ‘queries like this should be addressed to the sport in the first instance, UK Sport is not a regulator …’”

 

[samhocking]

Sutton was sacked 2 months after Freeman / Burt whistleblowing to UK Sport though. I'd say although not public, their whistleblowing to UKSport about Sutton's corruption probably set the tone for his dismissal once bullying and all the other charges were put to him re. Varnish etc and he had to resign over.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Paging Dr Freeman. Dr Freeman to the Hawthorns.

Sam Allardyce is back in the top flight

This could encourage Freeman to get the finger out and tell his QC to stop stalling for time. If only...

 

[samhocking]

Last several weeks of delays had nothing to do with Freeman. The Chair had to eventually tell Jackson to stop adding more evidence after 7 weeks and telling the panel not to take it into account unless it related to the charge lol