CMS Doping in sport revelations/discussion

[Robert5091]

"No one in cycling knows who he is", ugh? - maybe dans le continent, but just say Brailsford and Parliamentary Committee and people know. At least Cookson must tone down the bs before Sept 21.

 

[Random Direction]

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Well that spun out of control faster then a fidget spinner ... Cookson drawn too into the quagmire. Who needs TV?!

According to Eurosport at
http://www.eurosport.com/cycling/da...elected-as-head-of-uci_sto6217645/story.shtml and
Daily Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa...ns-MP-Brian-Cookson-not-elected-head-UCI.html
"Cookson will not receive any UK Sport funds in his campaign bid."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cycling-uci-idUSKBN18T2HQ
Frenchman David Lappartient, president of the Union of European Cycling (UEC), is still considering running against Cookson.

I think you may be massively overestimating Damien Collins's influence. No one in cycling knows who he is. Barely anyone in British politics know who he is. He's just a Tory backbencher who has the ear of three or four British journalists (not cycling ones)

Convenient mnimalization using ad hominem talking points. Have a vested interest for sky or Cookson?

 

[veganrob]

I don't know anything about Damien Collins influence but he does seem to be getting enough publicity surrounding the stink of BC Cycing, Team Sky and Cookson to maybe turn public opinion. And that is good.

 

[Jacques (7 ch)]

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Well that spun out of control faster then a fidget spinner ... Cookson drawn too into the quagmire. Who needs TV?!

According to Eurosport at
http://www.eurosport.com/cycling/da...elected-as-head-of-uci_sto6217645/story.shtml and
Daily Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa...ns-MP-Brian-Cookson-not-elected-head-UCI.html
"Cookson will not receive any UK Sport funds in his campaign bid."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cycling-uci-idUSKBN18T2HQ
Frenchman David Lappartient, president of the Union of European Cycling (UEC), is still considering running against Cookson.

I think you may be massively overestimating Damien Collins's influence. No one in cycling knows who he is. Barely anyone in British politics know who he is. He's just a Tory backbencher who has the ear of three or four British journalists (not cycling ones)

Big disagree on that. Bad call by you. The mainstream media are queuing up for the report, esp as the TdF is upcoming. What better story than blowing up SBW while CF is going FR up the Belles Filles LOL no innuendo intended

 

[fmk_RoI]

And the Committee is back:

Damian Collins‏
@DamianCollins

I'm delighted to have been re-elected today unopposed as Chair of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport select committee @CommonsCMS

3:54 pm - 7 Jul 2017

 

[Robert5091]

http://www.parliament.uk/business/c...a-and-sport-committee/chair-nominations-2017/

As the only candidate for the position, Damian Collins will be declared to be elected unopposed when the Speaker announces the result of the Chair elections after the ballot held on Wednesday 12 July.

The elected MP takes up their position as Chair of the Committee when the remaining members of the committee have been appointed by the House.

 

[gillan1969]

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Well that spun out of control faster then a fidget spinner ... Cookson drawn too into the quagmire. Who needs TV?!

According to Eurosport at
http://www.eurosport.com/cycling/da...elected-as-head-of-uci_sto6217645/story.shtml and
Daily Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa...ns-MP-Brian-Cookson-not-elected-head-UCI.html
"Cookson will not receive any UK Sport funds in his campaign bid."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cycling-uci-idUSKBN18T2HQ
Frenchman David Lappartient, president of the Union of European Cycling (UEC), is still considering running against Cookson.

I think you may be massively overestimating Damien Collins's influence. No one in cycling knows who he is. Barely anyone in British politics know who he is. He's just a Tory backbencher who has the ear of three or four British journalists (not cycling ones)

funny then he seems to ask all the right questions......i wonder why those who the cycling world do know do not ask those questions.......you'd almost think they had a vested interest....

 

[Robert5091]

Lappartient talks "technical fraud"

http://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/40663467

Brian Cookson's leadership of world cycling has been "poor", says the man challenging him for the International Cycling Union presidency.

French candidate David Lappartient told BBC Sport that Briton Cookson was "not informed" and "lacked a clear vision".

Cookson, who has been in office for the past four years, had hoped to be re-elected unopposed for a second term.

But his reputation has been dented by negative headlines about British Cycling, which he led for 17 years.

Cookson has strongly defended his record - though he has also been tainted by criticism of the country's leading pro-cycling operation, Team Sky.

The man who left British Cycling to take the helm at the UCI stressed he has been a "consensus-based president".

But, with the flagship Tour de France preparing for its finale this weekend, the race to be the sport's most powerful figure is now heating up.

...
Lappartient admits the UCI has made progress on tackling doping, promoting women's cycling, growing the sport in new territories and improving its status within the Olympics, with extra cycling events added to the 2020 Olympic programme in Tokyo.

But he believes these areas can still be improved, pledging in his manifesto to overhaul the race calendar, ban corticosteroids, and cap team budgets to prevent teams from dominating the sport.

Lappartient also wants to ramp up the fight against mechanical doping.

"Our sport has suffered a lot with the image of doping," he said.

"The UCI has done a great job for many years to have a better image... but regarding technological fraud, we know the industry is able to produce smaller motors, so we need to use X-rays, cameras, etc - this is something that appears in our sport.

"The UCI is doing some things but we need to be sure that we will use all the equipment and all the opportunities that we have to be sure that nobody will cheat with technological fraud. I hope and I think (the testing) is working, but I want to be sure that it's working in all the cases and I'm not completely sure."

 

[fmk_RoI]

So. Guess what's back? Yup, this. After last season's unexpectedly truncated run and its epic finale cliffhanger - will the wall of silence protecting Sky collapse? - what's new? Well, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport is now the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. Does that mean that the DCMS now becomes the double-DCMS, inviting rather obvious jokes about boobs? Sadly, no. According to Matt Slater on Twitter, they're staying as the DCMS, by making the 'Department' silent. Which of itself invites a joke about their Jiffy bag report. Today, they're banging on about FIFA but hopefully we'll get to find out if they intend to resurrect the cycling inquiry.

 

[thehog]

Re:

So. Guess what's back? Yup, this. After last season's unexpectedly truncated run and its epic finale cliffhanger - will the wall of silence protecting Sky collapse? - what's new? Well, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport is now the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. Does that mean that the DCMS now becomes the double-DCMS, inviting rather obvious jokes about boobs? Sadly, no. According to Matt Slater on Twitter, they're staying as the DCMS, by making the 'Department' silent. Which of itself invites a joke about their Jiffy bag report. Today, they're banging on about FIFA but hopefully we'll get to find out if they intend to resurrect the cycling inquiry.

This is good news as I suspect UKAD was hoping this would all go away and their investigation would never conclude.

 

[MartinGT]

Fingers crossed, I want them to have their say then Wiggins to 'shock' everyone.

 

[Electress]

I may well drop Mr Collins a line or two. The silence over the PC and UKAD reports is unearthly.

 

[Robert5091]

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I may well drop Mr Collins a line or two. The silence over the PC and UKAD reports is unearthly.

Think UKAD are waiting for a whistleblower or for Freeman to get "well" They could also talk to Alan Farrell.

 

[TheSpud]

Re:

So. Guess what's back? Yup, this. After last season's unexpectedly truncated run and its epic finale cliffhanger - will the wall of silence protecting Sky collapse? - what's new? Well, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport is now the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. Does that mean that the DCMS now becomes the double-DCMS, inviting rather obvious jokes about boobs? Sadly, no. According to Matt Slater on Twitter, they're staying as the DCMS, by making the 'Department' silent. Which of itself invites a joke about their Jiffy bag report. Today, they're banging on about FIFA but hopefully we'll get to find out if they intend to resurrect the cycling inquiry.

Its been summer recess so nothing will have happened for a couple of months since then.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

So. Guess what's back? Yup, this. After last season's unexpectedly truncated run and its epic finale cliffhanger - will the wall of silence protecting Sky collapse? - what's new? Well, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport is now the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. Does that mean that the DCMS now becomes the double-DCMS, inviting rather obvious jokes about boobs? Sadly, no. According to Matt Slater on Twitter, they're staying as the DCMS, by making the 'Department' silent. Which of itself invites a joke about their Jiffy bag report. Today, they're banging on about FIFA but hopefully we'll get to find out if they intend to resurrect the cycling inquiry.

Its been summer recess so nothing will have happened for a couple of months since then.

Well there was an election, so the committee dissolved. And now has reformed with a new name and some new members. Nothing to do with the summer recess.

 

[telencefalus]

most important is that the true about team sky comes very soon , i don't want this team to make gt not Worth watching so please go fast

 

[fmk_RoI]

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I may well drop Mr Collins a line or two. The silence over the PC and UKAD reports is unearthly.

Do. And let us know if you get a reply. I've asked him about it myself - whether the new select committee intends to resurrect the old cycling inquiry or whether it's dead until the next scandal comes along - and am waiting to see if he replies.

 

[TheSpud]

Re: Re:

So. Guess what's back? Yup, this. After last season's unexpectedly truncated run and its epic finale cliffhanger - will the wall of silence protecting Sky collapse? - what's new? Well, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport is now the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. Does that mean that the DCMS now becomes the double-DCMS, inviting rather obvious jokes about boobs? Sadly, no. According to Matt Slater on Twitter, they're staying as the DCMS, by making the 'Department' silent. Which of itself invites a joke about their Jiffy bag report. Today, they're banging on about FIFA but hopefully we'll get to find out if they intend to resurrect the cycling inquiry.

Its been summer recess so nothing will have happened for a couple of months since then.

Well there was an election, so the committee dissolved. And now has reformed with a new name and some new members. Nothing to do with the summer recess.

That as well - but the summer recess is 2 months where naff all happens in parliament

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re: Re:

So. Guess what's back? Yup, this. After last season's unexpectedly truncated run and its epic finale cliffhanger - will the wall of silence protecting Sky collapse? - what's new? Well, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport is now the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. Does that mean that the DCMS now becomes the double-DCMS, inviting rather obvious jokes about boobs? Sadly, no. According to Matt Slater on Twitter, they're staying as the DCMS, by making the 'Department' silent. Which of itself invites a joke about their Jiffy bag report. Today, they're banging on about FIFA but hopefully we'll get to find out if they intend to resurrect the cycling inquiry.

Its been summer recess so nothing will have happened for a couple of months since then.

Well there was an election, so the committee dissolved. And now has reformed with a new name and some new members. Nothing to do with the summer recess.

That as well - but the summer recess is 2 months where naff all happens in parliament

Keep digging...

 

[Robert5091]

Something for the Committee to look into -
http://www.bbc.com/sport/disability-sport/41253174

With medals being handed back, officials alleging dirty tricks, and calls for an independent system to judge levels of disability, is Paralympic sport losing trust?

A File on 4 special - Paralympic Sport - Fair Play?- spoke to athletes, parents, coaches and classifiers, and uncovered claims of tactics including the taping up of arms, taking cold showers in trunks and even surgery to shorten limbs in a bid to cheat the system.

Such abuse of the process has been described as "akin to doping".

And the BBC can reveal lawyers for governing body the International Paralympic Committee (IPC) are investigating whether several athletes and coaches have deliberately exaggerated disability to boost their chance of winning.

The classification system itself has also been criticised, with concerns classes have been opened up, allowing less impaired athletes to compete.

 

[Electress]

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Something for the Committee to look into -
http://www.bbc.com/sport/disability-sport/41253174

With medals being handed back, officials alleging dirty tricks, and calls for an independent system to judge levels of disability, is Paralympic sport losing trust?

A File on 4 special - Paralympic Sport - Fair Play?- spoke to athletes, parents, coaches and classifiers, and uncovered claims of tactics including the taping up of arms, taking cold showers in trunks and even surgery to shorten limbs in a bid to cheat the system.

Such abuse of the process has been described as "akin to doping".

And the BBC can reveal lawyers for governing body the International Paralympic Committee (IPC) are investigating whether several athletes and coaches have deliberately exaggerated disability to boost their chance of winning.

The classification system itself has also been criticised, with concerns classes have been opened up, allowing less impaired athletes to compete.

Can anything get more f..g twisted than that? Geez, if this is true - and why wouldn't it be ? - sport is well and truly *****

 

[Tienus]

Compared to this hidden motors in wheelchairs is only a minor problem imo.

 

[yaco]

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Something for the Committee to look into -
http://www.bbc.com/sport/disability-sport/41253174

With medals being handed back, officials alleging dirty tricks, and calls for an independent system to judge levels of disability, is Paralympic sport losing trust?

A File on 4 special - Paralympic Sport - Fair Play?- spoke to athletes, parents, coaches and classifiers, and uncovered claims of tactics including the taping up of arms, taking cold showers in trunks and even surgery to shorten limbs in a bid to cheat the system.

Such abuse of the process has been described as "akin to doping".

And the BBC can reveal lawyers for governing body the International Paralympic Committee (IPC) are investigating whether several athletes and coaches have deliberately exaggerated disability to boost their chance of winning.

The classification system itself has also been criticised, with concerns classes have been opened up, allowing less impaired athletes to compete.

Can anything get more f..g twisted than that? Geez, if this is true - and why wouldn't it be ? - sport is well and truly *****

It's not twisted ! People want to win whether it's amateur or professional - And some will use any means.

 

[MartinGT]

Absolute gold by Cope.

He was asked if Tom Pidcock had signed for Wiggins team, his reply

"Yes" "but I don't know if that's common knowledge though."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team-wiggins-dismiss-claims-of-financial-problems-and-vow-to-race-in-2018/

What a clown.

 

[thehog]

Thumbs up!

Damian Collins: A truly independent body, that whistleblowers within sport can go to with confidence is needed @bbc5live