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[RedheadDane]

King as was, regular on womens coverage, personally I much prefer the other Danni (Christmas) but appreciate her real world job takes priority.

Spoiler: Big Secret!

It's the same person. Dani King married Matthew Rowe and became Dani Rowe.
Remember how Luke Rowe broke his leg jumping out of a boat at a stag-party? It was for that wedding.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Spoiler: Big Secret!

It's the same person. Dani King married Matthew Rowe and became Dani Rowe.
Remember how Luke Rowe broke his leg jumping out of a boat at a stag-party? It was for that wedding.

I don't think you understood the post you replied to.

 

[RedheadDane]

I don't think you understood the post you replied to.

Yeah, I do.
I said that Dani Rowe was part of the winning team in Team Pursuit at the London Olympics. I just left out that she was still 'King' at the time.
Dani King hasn't commented anywhere since 2017.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Yeah, I do.
I said that Dani Rowe was part of the winning team in Team Pursuit at the London Olympics. I just left out that she was still 'King' at the time.
Dani King hasn't commented anywhere since 2017.

A million eye-rolls has been sent your way.

 

[Unchained]

On Flo bike we have been listening to Declan Quigley. He is much nicer to listen to than Kirby, McCrossan, Hatch etc.

Quigley does a good job and he sometimes sits for multiple seconds without saying anything. Don't know the name of the female he is often paired w, she speaks Dutch and English and the team is excellent

 

[RedheadDane]

A million eye-rolls has been sent your way.

Sure, she won as 'King' but she still won it.
My main point was that that might have been why CleanCiclismo thought he hadn't heard about her.

Just like someone might think they haven't heard about Ruth Edwards.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Sure, she won as 'King' but she still won it.
My main point was that that might have been why CleanCiclismo thought he hadn't heard about her.

Just like someone might think they haven't heard about Ruth Edwards.

But you replied to Wyndbrook, who clearly knew who she was.

 

[RedheadDane]

But you replied to Wyndbrook, who clearly knew who she was.

Okay, I have no defence!
Guess the "King as was" bit threw me off; read it as "King it was" rather that "Was as King".

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Okay, I have no defence!
Guess the "King as was" bit threw me off; read it as "King it was" rather that "Was as King".

Well at least you didn't read it as "Was a king".

 

[RedheadDane]

Well at least you didn't read it as "Was a king".

She was a King.
Well... she was D. King.

 

[Savant12]

She was a King.
Well... she was D. King.

*Tumbleweed*

 

[Alberto Fishwick]

Does anyone know who's doing the Tour for the english Eurosport? From what I've gathered from watching the Gruppeto and twitter (X), Matt Stephens will be on the motor in the 2nd week, while Blythe will do the 3rd week. Hatch returns as does Kelly. Dani Rowe will also join (never heard of her before). No mention of Kirby, Smith, Lloyd or McEwen.

Brian Smith doesn't get asked to the grand tours any more. I'm pretty sure that Kirby and Hatch will share lead comms again and that Lloyd and McEwen will be involved. McEwen certainly has better insights than Blythe but is another bantery bloke. It would be nice to think that we could have three weeks without any brown shorts references but somehow I doubt it.

Thankfully I will be in France for the first two weeks so will be able to enjoy Tommy V's contributions from the moto.

 

[Lequack]

Eurosport Player disappears after TDF - HBO Max the more expensive alternative. From €39 to up to €228 a year

Eurosport Player verdwijnt na Tour de France, wielerkoersen dan te zien bij veel duurder HBO Max

Wielerfans met een abonnement op de Eurosport Player opgelet: de online premium-dienst van de sportzender verdwijnt na de Tour de France 2024. Klanten hebben daarover een mail ontvangen van Eurosport. Alle sportuitzendingen worden verplaatst naar HBO Max of discovery+. Dat zijn streamingdiensten...

www.wielerflits.nl

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

Eurosport Player disappears after TDF - HBO Max the more expensive alternative. From €39 to up to €228 a year

Eurosport Player verdwijnt na Tour de France, wielerkoersen dan te zien bij veel duurder HBO Max

Wielerfans met een abonnement op de Eurosport Player opgelet: de online premium-dienst van de sportzender verdwijnt na de Tour de France 2024. Klanten hebben daarover een mail ontvangen van Eurosport. Alle sportuitzendingen worden verplaatst naar HBO Max of discovery+. Dat zijn streamingdiensten...

www.wielerflits.nl

Not that Eurosport Player is in any way fabulous, but the idea of having to subscribe to HBO Max really, really ticks me off.

 

[Netserk]

All those who complain about the unsustainable business model of relying on sponsors must be satisfied by how more value will be extracted directly from the fans.

 

[Lequack]

All those who complain about the unsustainable business model of relying on sponsors must be satisfied by how more value will be extracted directly from the fans.

I have doubts that teams or riders will see any of this money.

 

[Netserk]

I have doubts that teams or riders will see any of this money.

If not from the price of subscriptions, whence will "sustainable" money be extracted?

 

[awavey]

If not from the price of subscriptions, whence will "sustainable" money be extracted?

better coverage makes it more attractive for sponsors to support the races, or teams involved, some of that money should then flow to the riders

 

[Lequack]

But does better coverage equal more expensive coverage? I would reckon less people will be able to watch cycling now.

 

[awavey]

But does better coverage equal more expensive coverage? I would reckon less people will be able to watch cycling now.

better coverage of the sport might just mean covering far more races, those that we watched via youtube last year for example, it doesnt mean necessarily super HD cameras for the TdF. and theres a cost associated to broadcast that stuff, they always claim like its 20k per day to get the plane in the air to transmit the pictures back live,

I mean thats the daft thing, Eurosport busy showing the French, the Spanish, the Italian nationals, all live, the Italians have got aerial cameras too doing their best giro ditalia impressions.

the British nationals will be on youtube, transmitted via a mobile phone on a patchy mobile phone network, because we cant afford (well we could but BC refuse to spend the money that way) to swanky live broadcast the stuff.

thats the crux of it, and its lucky we get any live coverage at all. I remember when Lizzie won her first nationals jersey, had to wait a week to watch the edited highlights just to see what Nicoles complaints were about.

will less people watch it ? or will more Discovery/MAX/etc subscribers tune in instead. Youve subscribed to watch House of the Dragons, but theres this sport everyone goes on about every July, maybe thats worth a look.

 

[zlev11]

Quigley does a good job and he sometimes sits for multiple seconds without saying anything.

i love this though. sometimes there's just nothing to say. it's so much better than mindlessly babbling on about something and being annoying.

 

[awavey]

i love this though. sometimes there's just nothing to say. it's so much better than mindlessly babbling on about something and being annoying.

It's the classic style of commentary, and I do like Quigley, that's been forgotten by the modern style of must say something all the time

 

[Netserk]

better coverage makes it more attractive for sponsors to support the races, or teams involved, some of that money should then flow to the riders

That's the current "unsustainable" business model.

 

[awavey]

That's the current "unsustainable" business model.

I'd argue the current model is most races are put on lose money, have bad or limited coverage and few sponsors as a result.

There are tons of sponsors out there, but few who see cycling as a way to promote their brand because the ROI doesn't add up for them because of the lack of exposure on TV it gives them

Look at Euro 2024, who on earth are Hisense? basically a Chinese Samsung make electrical tech stuff, they've paid millions to be involved in this tournament, just because they get massive exposure from it.

That same amount of money could probably have funded a WT men's team at the top level for 2 years at least, and yet we won't ever see Hisense sponsoring cycling.

We don't see Qatar Airways in cycling even though UAE as their rivals are.

Adidas, Aliexpress, Booking.com, FedEx, Mastercard, Coca Cola, Sony.

They're all spending millions more for tiny logos at a football tournament, when the same amount of money could get them title sponsorship of some of the biggest teams or races cycling has.

Cycling needs better coverage to attract those sponsors

 

[ManicJack]

Cycling needs better coverage to attract those sponsors

Cycling needs more people that care about watching cycling.