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Are we are arguing right now or do we actually have the same opinion?
We agree that Vingegaard was better in weeks 2 and 3. His form in the first week was not that great according to his own words.
Pogacar was definitely very close to / on the limit on Pegueres and Peyragudes, even though the pace was not high. I even think the Peyragudes stage might have been the lowest point of Pogacar's career. (His team finally did a good job, but he was then not even strong enough to attack and only won because Vingegaard did not bother to attack himself)
i dont think pogi was on the limit with mcnultys pace , but he wanted to win the stage and thus had to wait for the sprint

he tried a safe attack near the top of azet where he didnt risk a counter , and then decided to wait for the next day as he knew vingegaard was stronger

i disagree with : "Yes, in 2022 Vingegaard was better, but probably only 0.05-0.1 w/kg on average. the tactics and race situation increased the gaps."

if you think pogi was on the limit on peyragudes , then surely race tactics minimised the gaps as vingegaard didnt attack
 
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i dont think pogi was on the limit with mcnultys pace , but he wanted to win the stage and thus had to wait for the sprint

he tried a safe attack near the top of azet where he didnt risk a counter , and then decided to wait for the next day as he knew vingegaard was stronger

i disagree with : "Yes, in 2022 Vingegaard was better, but probably only 0.05-0.1 w/kg on average. the tactics and race situation increased the gaps."

if you think pogi was on the limit on peyragudes , then surely race tactics minimised the gaps as vingegaard didnt attack
To specify: I think the race tactics increased the gaps on the 2 stages he was dropped on, not in general.
As fo the average, it is just a pure guess, maybe Vingegaard was much stronger and just did not try. (I also included stages like SPDBF and Mende in my thinking, where I think they were around equal). Otherwise we basically agree on everthing then except for the Peyragudes stage.
 
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