ContadorÂ’s legal team hit back at WADA report

[lean mean &green]

Besides Willy Voet found Clen made him feel "like a bull" when he tested it before giving it to the boys at Festina in the good old days...so it's not just about losing weight!

he would definitely feel like he had increased energy while taking clenbuterol.

 

[webvan]

Yes, but I was surprised to read that, as I have never seen that discussed since the Contador case broke out, it's always been about "clen is used to lose body fat"...so then the theory was that he had gotten it from a transfusion...but maybe he just popped a small dose before that Tourmalet stage...

 

[sniper]

Yes, but I was surprised to read that, as I have never seen that discussed since the Contador case broke out, it's always been about "clen is used to lose body fat"...so then the theory was that he had gotten it from a transfusion...but maybe he just popped a small dose before that Tourmalet stage...

interesting point.
however, with AC knowing he'd get tested the next day, would he be taking CLEN?
I assume that AC's state of awareness was this:
CLEN on rest day = positive test possible, therefore no CLEN
Blood Transfusion on rest day = positive test impossible, therefore BT

 

[peloton]

here we go again,

athletes take clenbuterol mostly for it's thermogenic effects which result in rapid weight loss. its actions in the body are similar to that of any CNS stimulant. metabolism is sped up and excess calories are burned even while resting or performing activities of daily life. the side effects are what you would expect from a stimulant. jittery hands, headaches, difficulty sleeping, etc. anecdotally some report stomach cramping which wouldn't surprise me either, gastrointestinal distress would seem logical.

clenbuterol can also act to dilate breathing passages and has some anabolic characteristics (muscle building effects). these are hard to quantify but they're generally small and are probably just an added bonus for someone trying to lose weight.

clenbuterol can be effective in a short period of time, a cycle generally lasts at least 2-3 weeks. could it be taken for a few days to drop a kilo or two during a stage race? anything is possible but i doubt it.

again, he didn't take a 50 picogram dose. 50 picograms is what was metabolised (broken down) from a larger dose on the day he was tested. that larger dose was most likely taken weeks or months earlier and transfused back in during the tour.

lastly, the contador case is a strong argument FOR strict liability, not against it.

My 1st question, which you didn't answer,

I'm also curious of what kind of side effects can clen use cause to someone like AC, with a pretty severe medical history?

I did a quick google search, apparently clen can cause a rapid rise on blood pressure, in the case of AC, that can cause a seizure that he is medicated for after his brain surgery.
Blood doped, most likely, but clen, no way unless he's suicidal.

 

[webvan]

interesting point.
however, with AC knowing he'd get tested the next day, would he be taking CLEN?
I assume that AC's state of awareness was this:
CLEN on rest day = positive test possible, therefore no CLEN
Blood Transfusion on rest day = positive test impossible, therefore BT

Yes, or maybe his "organization" had done some testing and found that a small dose of Clen would give a small boost and fall below the "normal" detection levels, unfortunately for him since he was on the UCI "Blood Passport" watch list, his samples got sent to a "super lab".

Either way, BT or Clen, he felt he had to take a big risk and it didn't pay off. Just like Landis in 2006 when he went over the Testo/Epi ratio and got tested for synthetic testo and then made a nuisance of himself for years.

 

[lean mean &green]

My 1st question, which you didn't answer,

I'm also curious of what kind of side effects can clen use cause to someone like AC, with a pretty severe medical history?

I did a quick google search, apparently clen can cause a rapid rise on blood pressure, in the case of AC, that can cause a seizure that he is medicated for after his brain surgery.
Blood doped, most likely, but clen, no way unless he's suicidal.

indirectly, i did answer your first question - it's bad for him.

IMO "suicidal" is hyperbole.

 

[biopass]

My 1st question, which you didn't answer,

I'm also curious of what kind of side effects can clen use cause to someone like AC, with a pretty severe medical history?

I did a quick google search, apparently clen can cause a rapid rise on blood pressure, in the case of AC, that can cause a seizure that he is medicated for after his brain surgery.
Blood doped, most likely, but clen, no way unless he's suicidal.

The question is, would Contador do some experiment with drugs like Clen during the Tour? Or has he already tried Clen and knew he wouldnt have those severe side effects?

And just for the record there is medication against high blood pressure, so the trick would be taking Clen and medication against high blood pressure.

 

[I Watch Cycling In July]

Yes, but I was surprised to read that, as I have never seen that discussed since the Contador case broke out, it's always been about "clen is used to lose body fat"...so then the theory was that he had gotten it from a transfusion...but maybe he just popped a small dose before that Tourmalet stage...

I doubt he felt much need for extra energy to face the media on the rest day.