Contador acquitted

[Kvinto]

I think WADA will appeal this and even if he'll be totally acquitted due to such a ridiculous explanations, the justice will surely find him one day...

 

[Roland Rat]

You think it was a "pesky kid" that did it????

Of course not, it was a turn of phrase.

 

[BotanyBay]

We'll know how "fixed" it was when we see AC ride in the Tour of the Algarve. If he doesn't get blasted off the back, then it was all decided long ago, as it means he was willing to train as if he'd be riding the TDF come June.

A guy who was truly worried about his eligibility would not be able to train correctly.

 

[SC1990]

The point is they will get off if the UCI values the rider enough. That's been the point all along. The only 'due process' is the one where the UCI decides how badly they want the rider back and then the complex explanation required to get the rider back in the field. There are many rules, none of which are followed.

Er...the UCI haven't let him off, the Spanish lot have.

 

[patricknd]

What?
This:


Completely ensures the destruction of any system based on strict liability and in the case of other doping products could easily lead to defences that riders were spiked and if no-one can show evidence of the contrary they could get off

(of course I employ some hyperbole)

i agree completely. the onus has to be on the rider to prove contamination, not just the possiblity.

had the decision been based on possibly exculpatory evidence not being delivered to his defense team i would agree with a reversal, but i think a door has been opened that makes a mockery of the entire system.

 

[alpine_chav]

Delighted... at least this year won't be a Schlek dominated procession... wasn't even going to bother watching the tour if they weren't going head to head again.

 

[hrotha]

Er...the UCI haven't let him off, the Spanish lot have.

The UCI tried to hide the whole thing for as long as they could, and they dismissed the blood transfusion theory god knows why.

 

[Señor_Contador]

So how does the Lab know it's Contador's sample? (Apologies if this has been answered before)

I don't know. I do know that someone in the chain is supplying information to the media. I can't tell you who because I do not have that information. But I do know, from experience, that no matter how difficult and full-proof a protocol may be, humans always devise a way to break and benefit from it. And the testing protocol (as it applies to cycling) is no different. I mean, there are people that will swear on it's impermeability but positives have been leaked to the media so many times I wander how people can still believe the official story.

 

[Hugh Januss]

We'll know how "fixed" it was when we see AC ride in the Tour of the Algarve. If he doesn't get blasted off the back, then it was all decided long ago, as it means he was willing to train as if he'd be riding the TDF come June.

A guy who was truly worried about his eligibility would not be able to train correctly.

Unless he is just really tranquil.

 

[c&cfan]

guy that said: it isnt even a sport anymore.

by your logic it never was.

all of the tour winners were on something! all of them! since horse steroids, anphetamines (merkx era. stronger than epo), etc.

i condemn those that use epo cera when the others arent using that just like i condemn anyone that was using something unique\very rare.

but 50pico of clen? bust him for something that's worth.
not only that, do you want andy as the winner?

 

[Anonymous]

We'll know how "fixed" it was when we see AC ride in the Tour of the Algarve. If he doesn't get blasted off the back, then it was all decided long ago, as it means he was willing to train as if he'd be riding the TDF come June.

A guy who was truly worried about his eligibility would not be able to train correctly.

Like the Contador that went off the beach holiday, grabbed his bike, and rode the giro.

 

[python]

Without seeing the actual statute this sounds akin to a violation of his due process rights--in this case procedural due process.

My French is a bit rusty, but if I understand the article in l'Equipe correctly, it is not that certain documents were provided to AC's defense team a little too late, but rather not at all or only in the last few days.

If however it needed to be presented to Contie, they are in very big problems…snip

thanks fellas. still a bit murky but starting to makes a tad more sense now.

to add from my own memory, there is a special wada document that prescribes and guides the content of the documents an athlete is entitled to. the disclosure time requirements may or may not be in that document. But I do recall they were someplace. So technically, it’s a legitimate wada code issue.

there could also have been legally valid arguments (a pure speculation) related to the case’s delays. Recall, it took the uci almost 7 weeks to just compile an a and b positives and another almost two months to pass the document package to rfec. So technically, he could not have started exercising his right for self-defence almost 4 ½ month after he gave the fateful sample.

legally and humanly this sounds awful but to my technical mind the case should still be about the data.

 

[Parrulo]

yay

i am very happy with this one

also i just realized that CN facebook page is followed by an huge amount of lance fanboys. its amazing the amount of hate there

 

[Señor_Contador]

The UCI tried to hide the whole thing for as long as they could, and they dismissed the blood transfusion theory god knows why.

Maybe the guy who developed the plastizicers test publicly advising everyone not to use it in sports yet had something to do with it?

 

[TRDean]

Screw Contadore...this whole thing is utterly pathetic! Slimy man, slimy sport!

 

[sniper]

on a side note, weren't there tons of technicalities and procedural failures (on the side of the UCI and other parties) that could/should have, but didn't, acquit Landis?

 

[hrotha]

Maybe the guy who developed the plastizicers test publicly advising everyone not to use it in sports yet had something to do with it?

No one's talking about the plasticizers test. That test has nothing to do with establishing why a transfusion could not have been the way the clen traces appeared in Contador's system.

 

[Hugh Januss]

I've said this before and i'll say it again. This is nothing but politics. The RFEC is looking for an escape clause so that they're not the ones that take down their hown town hero. They're counting on the UCI to appeal so that the CAS will make the final decision and be the ones that take the blame of the Spanish public. When the RFEC made the first recommendation of a 1 year ban, I think they were guaging how the UCI would react. They desperately wanted the UCI to appeal and were probably panicking when the UCI said that they would accept. Luckily Contador came to the rescue and appealed it for them. Now the RFEC had no choice but to completely exonerate AC so that the UCI would have no choice but to appeal and take all responsibility away from the RFEC.
This has nothing to do with Spain protecting Spain. This is a bunch of spineless jellyfish lawyers that don't have the guts to confirm whether or not the sun is shining ("there appears to be a light like condition which would, barring unforseen conditions, indicate the existance of a non-nighttime event....")

I love that last line, I am gonna have to remember it and use it myself at some later date when everyone has forgotten that you came up with it first.
To your point. Do you think RFEC has that little ambition? I think they are hoping first that this decision is allowed to stand and the politics of making someone else sanction AC is only option two in their win/win strategy.

 

[Cobblestones]

No one's talking about the plasticizers test. That test has nothing to do with establishing why a transfusion could not have been the way the clen traces appeared in Contador's system.

Right.

Anyway, is there anything that discusses (preferably with data) why the transfusion theory was ruled out?

 

[offbyone]

look at the monkey!

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Unless he is just really tranquil.

His level of Tranquil is off the charts. He is sitting back having a cocktail on the beach. I wonder why the hate of Toypistol equates the amount of LA fanboys?
He learned from the head honcho when it comes to getting away with a positive.

Now he needs to take my avatars advise and stick with the Chik en.


My message to RFEC (or whoever the **** they are) is (warning explicit lyrics) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU

 

[Hugh Januss]

Right.

Anyway, is there anything that discusses (preferably with data) why the transfusion theory was ruled out?

Maybe they are not even able to consider the posibility of what that test might show, since at this point, being non approved it's results don't really exist?

 

[roundabout]

Right.

Anyway, is there anything that discusses (preferably with data) why the transfusion theory was ruled out?

UCI received a report from the lab that Contador tested positive on the 19th of August and on the 24th communicated to Contador that it can only be due to food contamination.

One could come to a conclusion that the next 5 months were just for show.

 

[Cobblestones]

I love that last line, I am gonna have to remember it and use it myself at some later date when everyone has forgotten that you came up with it first.
To your point. Do you think RFEC has that little ambition? I think they are hoping first that this decision is allowed to stand and the politics of making someone else sanction AC is only option two in their win/win strategy.

I think dimtick has the best explanation I've heard so far why they came up with 1 year. There's absolutely no basis for 1 year. It's either two years or acquittal. I think dimtick is right. This was a decision made to be appealed (by either side). And guess what, they got what they wanted.

 

[sniper]

Right.

Anyway, is there anything that discusses (preferably with data) why the transfusion theory was ruled out?

Whatever report is gonna come out, don't expect anything other than "his bloodpassport shows no irregularities".