Contador positive!!!!!

[who dat]

So why did he get two years then???

I have not found any info that fuyu li was banned for two years where is your source?

 

[clydesdale]

Most professional cyclists don't actually earn a lot of money like you said in an earlier post. Sure Contador is an exception, but even my dad makes more money then an average professional cyclist...

Yeah, suppose that's true. I'll wait until the scientists have their say in this one. I know we'll probably never have a definitive answer, that's what annoys me.

 

[BroDeal]

We have all heard about donkeys doping. In Spain even the cows dope.

 

[Machu Picchu]

I have not found any info that fuyu li was banned for two years where is your source?

The UCI provisionally suspended him one month later and the Chinese federation may suspend him for two years, though it is not clear if it has issued a ban.

from Cyclingweekly

 

[rolfrae]

Surely the theory of the positive being caused by a tainted blood bag during a rest day transfusion can be ruled in or out by examining the change in blood levels? Doesn't the off-score change (a la Armstrong in 2009) when a top up has been done?

Another theory suggests that the tainted meat is an attempt by Spanish bulls to get back at the humans for their years of mistreatment at the hands of the torredors. (I can't provide a link because it's p*sh I made up.)

 

[Machu Picchu]

What a crazy day in cycling with the news about Contador I only heard about it in the press I hope he is innocent

and i think he deserves the right to defend himself mow

two tweets from Andy Schleck, that's not a cows 'moo' at the end is it!

 

[who dat]

from Cyclingweekly

So basically it is not clear whether a ban has been laid down yet

 

[killswitch]

Why would one dope before the final stage (to Paris) The previous doping tests did not detect any trace.

 

[roundabout]

two tweets from Andy Schleck, that's not a cows 'moo' at the end is it!

The other big league dopers are waiting with baited breath to see how the system would deal with a positive from one of their brethren.

 

[Machu Picchu]

Why would one dope before the final stage (to Paris) The previous doping tests did not detect any trace.

it is was 21st July, the day before the Pau - Col du Tourmalet stage.

 

[JRTinMA]

I have not found any info that fuyu li was banned for two years where is your source?

He has not been officially banned as of today, he is suspended and it appears he will get a two year ban. He tested positive for the exact same concentration as Contador, aka Albutorol Pharmador.

 

[sheenyp]

you did not annoy me, you only reiterated my observation that ppl will go into all kinds of secondary side issues in stead of attempting to read references for themselves. again, minimum detctable lavel has nothing (get ready) nothing to do with the minimum of 2 units.

OK, let me try this again:

"The UCI issued a report that “the concentration found by the laboratory was estimated at 50 picograms (or 0,000 000 000 05 grams per ml) which is 400 times less than what the antidoping laboratories accredited by WADA must be able to detect".

My understanding is that "what the antidoping laboratories accredited by WADA must be able to detect" = MRPL.

Now if the MRPL is 2ng/ml then 20pg/ml is 40 x not 400x?

 

[El Pistolero]

Problem for Li Fuyu is that he was on Team Radioshack and that the team couldn't use all this bad publicity because there was already a lot of controversy among some TRS riders.

And China is a pretty strict country when it goes about drugs. You can get the death penalty their for smuggling in forbidden substances like coke.

(note, I'm not saying Li Fuyu will get a death penalty, that would be ridiculous)

 

[who dat]

He has not been officially banned as of today, he is suspended and it appears he will get a two year ban. He tested positive for the exact same concentration as Contador, aka Albutorol Pharmador.

Even so do you think contador will get banned. because I think he will get off

 

[Muriel]

But the odds of it happening accidentally to a guy who is a pro cyclist with associations to known dopers in the middle of the toughest GT of the year, it's just not plausible.

Why not? It's not like members of the general public have their blood tested after eating a steak. Maybe what was found could be found in any number of people? I don't know, I just raise the possibility.

I dunno, the story here for me is not so much 'did he or didn't he?' but 'was it or wasn't it?' In our clamour to out dopers (rightly imo), are we 100% positive (sorry!) that we know exactly what doping looks like in the blood chemistry? I know that's what the blood passport attempts to address.

It is at least possible that food contamination is a possibility. Even for a rider with known doping associates in the middle of a GT... as darkly ironic as I find it!

 

[Machu Picchu]

So basically it is not clear whether a ban has been laid down yet

"Now there is no doubt of him being not positive for doping," Zhang Bin, the secretary-general of the Chinese Cycling Association, was quoted as saying on the China Daily's website. "No matter what his excuse was, and no matter how prominent he is in China cycling, the result has been confirmed and it is impossible to change."

The Chinese authorities have yet to hand down punishment but their decision will be passed to the UCI this month, the paper said. Li, who had denied the charges at a recent hearing, faces a two-year ban according to China's anti-doping policy.

best I can find at the moment

 

[sometriguy]

Anyone else love this comment from Lemond?

“I find it hard to believe that a professional like Alberto Contador would risk a detectable drug and I can’t believe how many people have left a certain team and then gone positive,” Lemond told Cyclingnews after hearing the news.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lemond-shocked-by-contador-positive

 

[Anonymous]

twitpic stole my picture last night :/

Contador just released a press statement with complete explanation

 

[roundabout]

Problem for Li Fuyu is that he was on Team Radioshack and that the team couldn't use all this bad publicity because there was already a lot of controversy among some TRS riders.

And China is a pretty strict country when it goes about drugs. You can get the death penalty their for smuggling in forbidden substances like coke.

(note, I'm not saying Li Fuyu will get a death penalty, that would be ridiculous)

Lol wut. They have more asthmatic pigs than any other country.

 

[JRTinMA]

Even so do you think contador will get banned. because I think he will get off

He has money, he will get away with it. Its total BS but this is the system we have.

 

[craig1985]

He has money, he will get away with it. Its total BS but this is the system we have.

It's no different to normal everyday society. Two guys commit the exact same crime, the one who can afford the $1000 an hour lawyer and the one who needs legal aid, guess who gets the better deal?

As for the OP, I was quite shocked to hear the news myself.

 

[theswordsman]

Banned substance à la Merckx.

But if it's 400 times less then what labs are supposed to detect then how did they find it with Conti, or am I completely misunderstanding that sentence? Or are they just doing more intense testing(in quality not quantity) on Conti then on for example Li Fuyu?

Because the lab is more precise in detecting it than WADA requires. If it had been tested at one of the slacker labs nothing would have come of it. But it is there, and there's a precedence with other riders that a banned substance is a banned substance.

 

[JRTinMA]

Anyone else love this comment from Lemond?

“I find it hard to believe that a professional like Alberto Contador would risk a detectable drug and I can’t believe how many people have left a certain team and then gone positive,” Lemond told Cyclingnews after hearing the news.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lemond-shocked-by-contador-positive

It feels like his other great feud is more personal when I read this article. Doping is doping and this is very revealing.

 

[roundabout]

It feels like his other great feud is more personal when I read this article. Doping is doping and this is very revealing.

+1. Almost reads like something a doping apologist or a naive fanboy who just started following cycling would say.

 

[who dat]

He has money, he will get away with it. Its total BS but this is the system we have.

Totally agree! I don't even think the fact that fuyu tested positive for same drug and same amount will even come to light in the media