Contador

[Kwibus]

Unfortunate for fans of exciting racing, but it gets worse. For those of us subject to Phil and Paul drivel, this is terrible. We are going to hear them taking shots at Contador ad nauseum.

Indeed. This piece on CN.com where Phil is saying Armstrong is innocent, because Armstrong told him so... God what a disgrace.

 

[Von Mises]

Say that to everyone that got away with testing positive from Clenbuterol.

There are many cases where people are banned because of Clen. And anyway, what kind of moral logic applies here? If one thief gets away, we should feel sorry for the thief, who doesnt?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Why do so many people get so heavily invested in people they don't know?
It's bizarre.

I might not know him personally, but from what I've gathered throughout the years, he's a humble, respectful, classy person and I like that. Doesn't hurt he's an awesome cyclist as well.

 

[El Pistolero]

There are many cases where people are banned because of Clen. And anyway, what kind of moral logic applies here? If one thief gets away, we should feel sorry for the thief, who doesnt?

No, we should hunt down the other thief and make him pay.

 

[auscyclefan94]

No press release on Alberto's website it seems. A bit strange.

Just putting it out there that I do feel sad for the fans of AC. Sucks to be you guys.

 

[LaFlorecita]

No press release on Alberto's website it seems. A bit strange.

Just putting it out there that I do feel sad for the fans of AC. Sucks to be you guys.

What's so strange about it? He and his family and friends and everyone around him are still processing the blow.

 

[auscyclefan94]

What's so strange about it? He and his family and friends and everyone around him are still processing the blow.

A top level athlete not making a release or comment about a doping conviction within 24 hours is very strange to me.

 

[jyhjyh]

A top level athlete not making a release or comment about a doping conviction within 24 hours is very strange to me.

I think it's beacuse he will comment together with Team Saxo Bank/Bjarne Riis.
This has been on Team Saxo site since yesterday:
http://www.teamsaxobank.com//ny_news.asp?n_id=3486

"The team and Alberto Contador will hold a press conference tomorrow, Tuesday February 7th at 19.30. Both Bjarne Riis and Alberto Contador will be present."

It's 19.30 Madrid time.

 

[Von Mises]

No, we should hunt down the other thief and make him pay.

I agree. We should.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

spokesmen david harmon
soooo Valverde commenting...good choice!

 

[Angliru]

FFS man, I'm probably a bigger Contador fan than you but do you really have to turn it round on Schleck all the time. He has freack all to do with this ruling other than inheriting (sp) a TDF he does not want and has called it as such.

You're right. I'll try to tone down my Andy rhetoric from this point on. Obviously I'm just bitter.

 

[TheEnoculator]

While I believe in Contador's innocence, the devil side of my shoulders keeps wondering: Did he really do it?

Thinking back to 2010 Tour, he just took the yellow jersey from Schleck, thanks to his inability to shift gears. Then it's rest day. Contador knew he wasn't in his best shape. Schleck was riding the best Tour of his career, and because Frank wasn't around anymore, Andy was more focused than ever. Tourmalet was coming up, and Andy was within striking distance to take the Tour from him. Contador could be thinking, "no, I can't lose this one, not to Andy. I got lucky that Andy dropped his chain, I have never lost a GT, and I'm not going to start now." And he went and did the stupid thing.

If Contador was in excellent shape and winning by minutes, he wouldn't need to dope, and I believe he wouldn't. But in 2010, he was only leading by seconds and he had already won so many GT's, that he couldn't stand the thought of losing to anybody, especially not to Andy, who's always been the bridesmaid and not the bride. This might drive Contador to dope. Winning is a drug.

Contador has been linked to doping scandals before, and though they were not proven, he's not as "clean" as guys like Sastre, Menchov or Evans by reputation, with the latter 3 guys never been implicated or linked to any doping scandal.

 

[LaFlorecita]

While I believe in Contador's innocence, the devil side of my shoulders keeps wondering: Did he really do it?

Thinking back to 2010 Tour, he just took the yellow jersey from Schleck, thanks to his inability to shift gears. Then it's rest day. Contador knew he wasn't in his best shape. Schleck was riding the best Tour of his career, and because Frank wasn't around anymore, Andy was more focused than ever. Tourmalet was coming up, and Andy was within striking distance to take the Tour from him. Contador could be thinking, "no, I can't lose this one, not to Andy. I got lucky that Andy dropped his chain, I have never lost a GT, and I'm not going to start now." And he went and did the stupid thing.

If Contador was in excellent shape and winning by minutes, he wouldn't need to dope, and I believe he wouldn't. But in 2010, he was only leading by seconds and he had already won so many GT's, that he couldn't stand the thought of losing to anybody, especially not to Andy, who's always been the bridesmaid and not the bride. This might drive him to dope. Winning is a drug.

Contador has been linked to doping scandals before, and though it was proven, he's not as "clean" as guys like Sastre, Menchov or Evans by reputation, with the latter 3 guys never been implicated or linked to any doping scandal.

So... You assume he had never doped before but still had a blood bag ready to use?

 

[BRCYC11]

Contador in front of his home today:

http://sporten.tv2.dk/article.php/id-48023414:video-her-finder-tv-2-contador.html?forside

 

[Carols]

Move it to the clinic please.....there is a spot for what this thread has become.

IMO Contador was banned under strict liabilty and the wording of the ruling all but acquitted him of doping.

 

[Carols]

It's sport, simple as that. It inspires, it elates, it crushes our expectations, and it rewards magnificently those who either participate in it, or who follow it, be it cycling, football, rugby or anything else.

Contador drew people in with his never say die attitude and his style of riding. People enjoyed watching him race because he was guaranteed to animate any race he was in.

Yeah this!! Very Exciting to watch

 

[TheEnoculator]

So... You assume he had never doped before but still had a blood bag ready to use?

I can't know for sure he never doped before. I don't think any of us can. Contador wasn't exactly the most vocal on anti-doping himself. He started his career when doping was still rampant with Ullrich and Landis and Hamilton still riding, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's tried it or he's been taught the techniques. When UCI started to really crack down on doping, he might have completely stopped and started relying on his true talents, which he has plenty.

Did he have a blood transfusion in 2010 Tour? It's probable. The plasticizer was in his system, and while the test wasn't approved yet, the report of plasticizer presence couldn't be a lie, otherwise Contador would have said, "no way there's plasticizer, that's a blatant lie". But he didn't.

I want to believe he's innocent. Having his kind of talent in cycling and still so humble is inspiring and admirable. But as WADA pointed out, the probability of having his level of clenbuterol from Spanish beef was 0.0042%. That probability is way too low to suggest he didn't dope.

 

[Carols]

Clinic it...plenty of talk over there on did he/didn't he....

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador in front of his home today:

http://sporten.tv2.dk/article.php/id-48023414:video-her-finder-tv-2-contador.html?forside

Oh I need to bookmark that one. That's a good one for my super sneaky ninja thing to find his house on google earth.

Also, I wonder how many cars he has... I count 4 at least.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Clinic it...plenty of talk over there on did he/didn't he....

Yup... let's stop. This thread is about Alberto in the one day races.

He might win a few in fall.

 

[Arnout]

He does have a bad taste for cars.

 

[DenisMenchov]

He does have a bad taste for cars.

Well, he is now gonna sell them in order to pey all those fees.

 

[Fetisoff]

Talking on the cellphone, while driving?
Wow, that's almost as reckless as eating steaks from the Basque country

 

[El Pistolero]

Well, he is now gonna sell them in order to pey all those fees.

He has a yearly paycheck of 6.5million euros a year The guy is loaded with cash.

 

[Carols]

Yup... let's stop. This thread is about Alberto in the one day races.

He might win a few in fall.

He just might have a go and it'll make for very exciting race watching