Angry people - I'm obviously not taking your points of view very seriously, Would you like me to post more like you? You know get really angry, call you names, stamp my feet and throw a temper tantrum like Frodo after a defeat (another HGH boy). If it will make you feel better would you like me to call you a ****? Will that help?
Blackcat - a good example of massive HGH use over the years is HHH (how appropriate).
Polish - As the Chinese food example confused you I'll try to give you an example you might be able to understand. Cycling is like the gay scene. It is a huge scene, it involves very many different groups, classes, ages and interests. There are some who are into drag (road racing), some who are into BDSM (mtb), some some who are into leather (doping). You can be into all three (and others) or maybe just one of them but that doesn't stop you from being part of the gay (or cycling) scene.
The CN forum is the equivalent of a huge Gay Bar with lots of smaller bars in it each catering for each scene. Some people drink in one bar, some drink in several. Now, this is discussion is basically about which Republican Senator or televangelist is actually a closet leather. What I don't get really get is why people are getting so angry when someone suggests that their favourite televangelist, Republican or rider is in the closet (leather, doping or otherwise). But I guess that is just me.
Granville57 said:
It's more like questioning those same Chinese restaurants that claim not to serve chop suey even though others have seen it being prepared in the kitchen, you see some leftovers in the garbage, and you find a menu that clearly states "Chop Suey - $7.95"
However, that doesn't mean there aren't other tasty things on the menu which keep you coming back for more.
Indeed, actually, the Chop Suey problem is all in the past. Only 1-2% of restaurants are selling Chop Suey. The new Bio-Menu has curtailed Chop Suey practices.
The next step is going to be a widespread 'no noodles' policy.