Cookson is worse for cycling than McQuaid

[thehog]

I did steal this from the comments section on CyclingTips but looks like a fairly accurate list:

Cookson's list of failures (partial):
Astana - Cookson says it's serious and they're going down. Nothing. At least have the sense to keep your mouth shut.
CIRC - nothing.
Ethics - nothing. E.g. not speaking out against the Bahrain idea.
Kreuziger - same as Astana.
Disc brakes - UCI introduces them despite loads of people saying they'll cut open your legs.
Motorbikes constantly hitting riders - does nothing until someone dies. Then says he'll do something (as ever - placate the media). But nothing yet done.
The new weather rules.
Siding with Velon.
The farce with ASO.
How’s the biological passport getting along? That’s been quiet.
Constantly suggesting cutting the Vuelta to two weeks so that the UCI can have more money-making Middle Eastern races.
Still not banning tramadol - do it independently of WADA if needs be.
Coming up with that first - really stupid - calendar idea.
Motors in bikes and the UCI seemingly thwarting the French police investigation.
Immediately – and whilst admitting to knowing nothing about it – dismissing that British doctor’s claims about doping athletes.
19/11/15 “I'm confident that the people running the Russian Cycling Federation are trying to do the right thing and I'm sure that if there were any problems there, they would not want to cover them up at all.”

 

[42x16ss]

I did steal this from the comments section on CyclingTips but looks like a fairly accurate list:

Cookson's list of failures (partial):
Astana - Cookson says it's serious and they're going down. Nothing. At least have the sense to keep your mouth shut.
CIRC - nothing.
Ethics - nothing. E.g. not speaking out against the Bahrain idea.
Kreuziger - same as Astana.
Disc brakes - UCI introduces them despite loads of people saying they'll cut open your legs.
Motorbikes constantly hitting riders - does nothing until someone dies. Then says he'll do something (as ever - placate the media). But nothing yet done.
The new weather rules.
Siding with Velon.
The farce with ASO.
How’s the biological passport getting along? That’s been quiet.
Constantly suggesting cutting the Vuelta to two weeks so that the UCI can have more money-making Middle Eastern races.
Still not banning tramadol - do it independently of WADA if needs be.
Coming up with that first - really stupid - calendar idea.
Motors in bikes and the UCI seemingly thwarting the French police investigation.
Immediately – and whilst admitting to knowing nothing about it – dismissing that British doctor’s claims about doping athletes.
19/11/15 “I'm confident that the people running the Russian Cycling Federation are trying to do the right thing and I'm sure that if there were any problems there, they would not want to cover them up at all.”

C'mon TheHog, what do you expect? Miracles? Everyone knows that it takes a lot longer than 3 years to get moving on stuff like that, especially when there's stuff like cameras on bikes and photo shoots with Merckx to take care of.

Your priorities obviously aren't where they should be

 

[thehog]

I did steal this from the comments section on CyclingTips but looks like a fairly accurate list:

Cookson's list of failures (partial):
Astana - Cookson says it's serious and they're going down. Nothing. At least have the sense to keep your mouth shut.
CIRC - nothing.
Ethics - nothing. E.g. not speaking out against the Bahrain idea.
Kreuziger - same as Astana.
Disc brakes - UCI introduces them despite loads of people saying they'll cut open your legs.
Motorbikes constantly hitting riders - does nothing until someone dies. Then says he'll do something (as ever - placate the media). But nothing yet done.
The new weather rules.
Siding with Velon.
The farce with ASO.
How’s the biological passport getting along? That’s been quiet.
Constantly suggesting cutting the Vuelta to two weeks so that the UCI can have more money-making Middle Eastern races.
Still not banning tramadol - do it independently of WADA if needs be.
Coming up with that first - really stupid - calendar idea.
Motors in bikes and the UCI seemingly thwarting the French police investigation.
Immediately – and whilst admitting to knowing nothing about it – dismissing that British doctor’s claims about doping athletes.
19/11/15 “I'm confident that the people running the Russian Cycling Federation are trying to do the right thing and I'm sure that if there were any problems there, they would not want to cover them up at all.”

C'mon TheHog, what do you expect? Miracles? Everyone knows that it takes a lot longer than 3 years to get moving on stuff like that, especially when there's stuff like cameras on bikes and photo shoots with Merckx to take care of.

Your priorities obviously aren't where they should be

True. Selfies are much more important than putting the UCI into a €1.2m black hole!

Also forgot, one more; "Going on vacation when the organisation you run has gone into crisis". That was an awesome move. Back just in time for a another holiday at the Tour de France to help thwart the French Police. They are the enemy after all, they actually want to catch cheats.

 

[42x16ss]

I did steal this from the comments section on CyclingTips but looks like a fairly accurate list:

Cookson's list of failures (partial):
Astana - Cookson says it's serious and they're going down. Nothing. At least have the sense to keep your mouth shut.
CIRC - nothing.
Ethics - nothing. E.g. not speaking out against the Bahrain idea.
Kreuziger - same as Astana.
Disc brakes - UCI introduces them despite loads of people saying they'll cut open your legs.
Motorbikes constantly hitting riders - does nothing until someone dies. Then says he'll do something (as ever - placate the media). But nothing yet done.
The new weather rules.
Siding with Velon.
The farce with ASO.
How’s the biological passport getting along? That’s been quiet.
Constantly suggesting cutting the Vuelta to two weeks so that the UCI can have more money-making Middle Eastern races.
Still not banning tramadol - do it independently of WADA if needs be.
Coming up with that first - really stupid - calendar idea.
Motors in bikes and the UCI seemingly thwarting the French police investigation.
Immediately – and whilst admitting to knowing nothing about it – dismissing that British doctor’s claims about doping athletes.
19/11/15 “I'm confident that the people running the Russian Cycling Federation are trying to do the right thing and I'm sure that if there were any problems there, they would not want to cover them up at all.”

C'mon TheHog, what do you expect? Miracles? Everyone knows that it takes a lot longer than 3 years to get moving on stuff like that, especially when there's stuff like cameras on bikes and photo shoots with Merckx to take care of.

Your priorities obviously aren't where they should be

True. Selfies are much more important than putting the UCI into a €1.2m black hole!

Also forgot, one more; "Going on vacation when the organisation you run has gone into crisis". That was an awesome move. Back just in time for a another holiday at the Tour de France to help thwart the French Police. They are the enemy after all, they actually want to catch cheats.

For all their faults, at least McBruggen made sure that there was a positive cash flow before they went on photo ops with Cameron Diaz and Ben Stiller.

 

[Benotti69]

I did steal this from the comments section on CyclingTips but looks like a fairly accurate list:

Cookson's list of failures (partial):
Astana - Cookson says it's serious and they're going down. Nothing. At least have the sense to keep your mouth shut.
CIRC - nothing.
Ethics - nothing. E.g. not speaking out against the Bahrain idea.
Kreuziger - same as Astana.
Disc brakes - UCI introduces them despite loads of people saying they'll cut open your legs.
Motorbikes constantly hitting riders - does nothing until someone dies. Then says he'll do something (as ever - placate the media). But nothing yet done.
The new weather rules.
Siding with Velon.
The farce with ASO.
How’s the biological passport getting along? That’s been quiet.
Constantly suggesting cutting the Vuelta to two weeks so that the UCI can have more money-making Middle Eastern races.
Still not banning tramadol - do it independently of WADA if needs be.
Coming up with that first - really stupid - calendar idea.
Motors in bikes and the UCI seemingly thwarting the French police investigation.
Immediately – and whilst admitting to knowing nothing about it – dismissing that British doctor’s claims about doping athletes.
19/11/15 “I'm confident that the people running the Russian Cycling Federation are trying to do the right thing and I'm sure that if there were any problems there, they would not want to cover them up at all.”

Great list and shows that Cookson's mandate for election was a bunch of lies. But then what would you expect from sport and those in charge nowadays?

 

[thehog]

I did steal this from the comments section on CyclingTips but looks like a fairly accurate list:

Cookson's list of failures (partial):
Astana - Cookson says it's serious and they're going down. Nothing. At least have the sense to keep your mouth shut.
CIRC - nothing.
Ethics - nothing. E.g. not speaking out against the Bahrain idea.
Kreuziger - same as Astana.
Disc brakes - UCI introduces them despite loads of people saying they'll cut open your legs.
Motorbikes constantly hitting riders - does nothing until someone dies. Then says he'll do something (as ever - placate the media). But nothing yet done.
The new weather rules.
Siding with Velon.
The farce with ASO.
How’s the biological passport getting along? That’s been quiet.
Constantly suggesting cutting the Vuelta to two weeks so that the UCI can have more money-making Middle Eastern races.
Still not banning tramadol - do it independently of WADA if needs be.
Coming up with that first - really stupid - calendar idea.
Motors in bikes and the UCI seemingly thwarting the French police investigation.
Immediately – and whilst admitting to knowing nothing about it – dismissing that British doctor’s claims about doping athletes.
19/11/15 “I'm confident that the people running the Russian Cycling Federation are trying to do the right thing and I'm sure that if there were any problems there, they would not want to cover them up at all.”

C'mon TheHog, what do you expect? Miracles? Everyone knows that it takes a lot longer than 3 years to get moving on stuff like that, especially when there's stuff like cameras on bikes and photo shoots with Merckx to take care of.

Your priorities obviously aren't where they should be

True. Selfies are much more important than putting the UCI into a €1.2m black hole!

Also forgot, one more; "Going on vacation when the organisation you run has gone into crisis". That was an awesome move. Back just in time for a another holiday at the Tour de France to help thwart the French Police. They are the enemy after all, they actually want to catch cheats.

For all their faults, at least McBruggen made sure that there was a positive cash flow before they went on photo ops with Cameron Diaz and Ben Stiller.

Lol! I think Cruise swung by the Astana bus once.

Stiller even rode Lance's ITT bike in the warm up. Ah, the good ole days, when doping was accepted by the governing body without all the rhetoric of clean cycling.

I honestly didn't think Cookson could be this calamitous. He even went on to dismiss the Boner allegations as 'dubious' and there's a guy sitting in parliament today talking about widespread use of doping in cycling and other sports.

 

[Cannibal72]

Looking for proof that there's no Roger in Latour's name, I came across this interesting little titbit from the Inner Ring:

A man in a hurry: Talking of national champions you might remember David Lappartient’s ambition for a “French Team Sky”. He once took this a step further with the call for the Tour de France to be run with national teams, enraging FDJ team boss Marc Madiot. Lappartient’s hit the headlines recently after his work to torpedo some proposed reforms and giving an interview to cyclingnews.com to explain his opposition. Several people pointed out his multiple conflicts of interest and how he wears several hats as boss of the French federation (which has a small deal for income with ASO), President of the European Cycling Union and sits on the UCI’s Management Committee. Enough to keep anyone busy only his cycling work is just one part of his working life.

He’s mayor of Sarzeau – population 6,941 – where he stands on the “Sarzeau en Mouvement” ticket, presumably thrashing the “Sarzeau immobilisme” candidate – but this is just one of his politics jobs. He’s also a councillor for the Morbihan départment too and presides over grouping of several towns to share various public services. Busy man.

Curious.
http://inrng.com/2015/06/saturday-shorts-11/

 

[thehog]

Lol! Is he talking about the Clinic?! :lol:

Cookson also expressed a bit of exasperation against a very vocal chorus of critics who continue to insist that despite increased vigilance and improved doping controls, cycling remains dirty at its core.

“It’s impossible to prove a negative, that’s the problem. I don’t know what else we can do to convince the doubters,” Cookson said.
“We have to keep testing, and we will do anything that’s necessary to defend the integrity of our sport. No rider, no team, and no nationality is protected.

“All I read now is that X-rider or Z-team is protected, but they are not,” he continued. “The science is there, the testing is there, the processes are there, so unless you think the entire system is corrupt, which some people seem to think, then I don’t know what else we can do.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/tour-de-france/tour-will-implement-nighttime-doping-checks_412050

 

[sniper]

Lol! Is he talking about the Clinic?! :lol:

Cookson also expressed a bit of exasperation against a very vocal chorus of critics who continue to insist that despite increased vigilance and improved doping controls, cycling remains dirty at its core.

“It’s impossible to prove a negative, that’s the problem. I don’t know what else we can do to convince the doubters,” Cookson said.
“We have to keep testing, and we will do anything that’s necessary to defend the integrity of our sport. No rider, no team, and no nationality is protected.

“All I read now is that X-rider or Z-team is protected, but they are not,” he continued. “The science is there, the testing is there, the processes are there, so unless you think the entire system is corrupt, which some people seem to think, then I don’t know what else we can do.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/tour-de-france/tour-will-implement-nighttime-doping-checks_412050

Holy jeezus son of mary.
Conflicts of interest left right and center.
"I don't know what else to do".
What an a-grade corrupt sell-out, and he's not even hiding it.

 

[Irondan]

Lol! Is he talking about the Clinic?! :lol:

Cookson also expressed a bit of exasperation against a very vocal chorus of critics who continue to insist that despite increased vigilance and improved doping controls, cycling remains dirty at its core.

“It’s impossible to prove a negative, that’s the problem. I don’t know what else we can do to convince the doubters,” Cookson said.
“We have to keep testing, and we will do anything that’s necessary to defend the integrity of our sport. No rider, no team, and no nationality is protected.

“All I read now is that X-rider or Z-team is protected, but they are not,” he continued. “The science is there, the testing is there, the processes are there, so unless you think the entire system is corrupt, which some people seem to think, then I don’t know what else we can do.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/tour-de-france/tour-will-implement-nighttime-doping-checks_412050

I believe you are correct hoggy!

 

[More Strides than Rides]

He may have read some, but obviously hasn't read enough of the clinic.

The "I don't know what else we can do" is well spelled out, in many threads.

 

[Irondan]

Re:

He may have read some, but obviously hasn't read enough of the clinic.

The "I don't know what else we can do" is well spelled out, in many threads.

Lots of people come to the clinic and read only what they want to see...

 

[Tienus]

The UCI has created new controls to tackle the threat of motor-assisted bicycles — including the use of thermal cameras

Funny this is what he says now after the French authorities decided they would start using thermal cameras. Before that there are plenty occasions where he denies the need for them.

 

[Benotti69]

I wonder how much a team must 'donate' to avoid a night time test during the TdF?

I wonder how much a team must 'donate' to arrange a fellow GC rider receives a night time test during the TdF?

 

[sniper]

Kazachstan clearly forgot to donate last year.

 

[Benotti69]

Brian Cookson, supposed President of the whole of the International Cycling Federation.

Appears to be a Sky employee

https://twitter.com/Spitinthesoup/status/753865444516298752

“my friends at Sky”

 

[Electress]

I read (admittedly on twitter) that Cookson's son now works at DD? Is this true?

They seem to have done rather well this year...

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

I read (admittedly on twitter) that Cookson's son now works at DD? Is this true?

They seem to have done rather well this year...

Yes it is true and there is no conflict of interest whatsoever :lol:

Cav won little last year. This year 4TdF stages. Pure coincidence.

 

[Electress]

Re: Re:

I read (admittedly on twitter) that Cookson's son now works at DD? Is this true?

They seem to have done rather well this year...

Yes it is true and there is no conflict of interest whatsoever :lol:

Cav won little last year. This year 4TdF stages. Pure coincidence.

No, none at all. Shocking of us all to have so little trust in this wonderful organisation because their history has given us no evidence whatsoever to question whether they have the systems, policies and procedures in place to ensure nothing dodgy ever happens. Joke. Complete joke.

 

[BullsFan22]

If only Cookson and McQuaid were there to help the Russians. By now, Ilnur Zakarin would have won several GT's and Katusha and Tinkoff would have been waaaay ahead of anyone else.

 

[IndianCyclist]

The Armistead case has brought a lot of problems w.r.t antidoping. Why are riders getting off on technicalities, Why haven't they standardized procedure so that it cannot be challenged in court. Why haven't WADA issued the std guidelines. Why is appeal for a missed test rejected by UKAD without proper investigation. Yates given a very favorable ban.
In Cookson's era, it looks like British cyclists are being favored. Also all the anti-doping effort is now under complete secrecy. This is the person who promised to make things better. It is going downhill.
Make everything transparent otherwise this sport is not going to be credible even in the next 100 years. Missed tests, provisional suspension, TUE, doping/blood/urine test values need to be made public. In the twitter age, the greatest fear that any athlete has is trial by media/public as it hurts sponsorship of that athlete. Making everything public force the athlete to become extremely cautious and will help to prevent lot of doping. It is the best deterrent other than direct policing.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re:

Why are riders getting off on technicalities,

Because maybe technically they were innocent? UKAD failing to follow their own rules is not really a technicality. If we expect athletes to obey the rules, shouldn't we expect the same of those who police those athletes?

If you are not willing to accept that CAS can fairly judge someone innocent then let's just get rid of CAS

Why haven't they standardized procedure so that it cannot be challenged in court.

I believe the word is justice. If you believe that athletes should have no right of appeal then you're not interested in justice.

Procedures have been standardised. In this instance CAS have decided UKAD failed to follow those procedures.

Why haven't WADA issued the std guidelines.

Guidelines on what? WADA issue guidelines all the time. UKAD adopted WADA guidelines. UCI adopted a version that allows them to publicise provisional suspensions, so in this instance they're more severe than WADA.

Why is appeal for a missed test rejected by UKAD without proper investigation.

What appeal? LA explained the missed test to UKAD, they rejected her explanation, she chose not to challenge (appeal) but was then (correctly) able to challenge the decision when she had to go to CAS. WADA's rules, as adopted by UKAD. Again, if you want athletes to follow the rules, you have to be willing to follow them too.

Yates given a very favorable ban.

In comparison to what other similar cases (ie cases for the same infraction)?

In Cookson's era, it looks like British cyclists are being favored.

JTL.

Also all the anti-doping effort is now under complete secrecy.

These are WADA rules and have been applying for quite some time now. But UCI is more transparent than most, publishing a list of provisional suspensions.

Missed tests, provisional suspension, TUE, doping/blood/urine test values need to be made public.

No. No, no, no, no. Values should not be published, they should not be subject to the madness of crowds, to idiots who see only conspiracy, can read guilt into the most innocent situation. No.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Re: Re:

Missed tests, provisional suspension, TUE, doping/blood/urine test values need to be made public.

No. No, no, no, no. Values should not be published, they should not be subject to the madness of crowds, to idiots who see only conspiracy, can read guilt into the most innocent situation. No.

Chris Horner agrees. He won that Vuelta clean. I'm sure there would be crowd madness with registered testing pool athletes scores released. Yup. Because that's exactly what happened with Horner's results.

 

[Nick C.]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/worldtour-teams-set-to-boycott-2016-world-championships-team-time-trial

 

[bikinggirl]

UCI IS SO CORRUPT.