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Crashes, what can be done?

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I think it’s one of the more realistic proposals. Easy to implement, inexpensive and limited damage to any particular stakeholder. If you can regulate bike weight, you can regulate gear ratios - and they already do the latter for juniors.

Unlike electronic gears and disc brakes, bigger gears are not what sells to the public.
I think it would affect sprints too much to restrict it
 
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I think it would affect sprints too much to restrict it
Maybe impliment gear restrictions only in races with much high speed descending? As far as crashing and mass sprints are concerned, the riders need to do some soul searching. In the past when there was no space to pass, a rider backed off. The problem today is nobody backs off, because the culture of the sport (which reflects wider modernity) has made them lose their minds.
 
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Maybe impliment gear restrictions only in races with much high speed descending? As far as crashing and mass sprints are concerned, the riders need to do some soul searching. In the past when there was no space to pass, a rider backed off. The problem today is nobody backs off, because the culture of the sport (which reflects wider modernity) has made them lose their minds.
Bunch sprints 30 years ago were by and large much wilder than they are today.
 
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I think today we have more bunch sprints.

Could be, with more calendar races and greater control of breaks, but you didn't have certain maneuvers. The sprints were "dirtier" in the past, because the were less severe penalizations, but it kept them honest. Today it seems everybody thinks he's entitled to a certain line, because the monitoring is quite tight, but that leads to hubris and not infrequently stupidity.
 
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Luis Angel Maté has his 2 cents worth ...
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racin...ing-more-dangerous-nowadays-we-asked-the-pros
At this year's Tour of the Alps, Luis Angel Maté (Euskaltel-Euskadi), a rider with over 15 years of experience, said he believes cycling is "more dangerous nowadays".

"The bikes are quicker, the roads are better, but, above all, cycling is a reflection of society," the 40-year-old told Cycling Weekly. "Today's society moves very fast. Everybody wants to win, more than anything else. There are lots of sponsors, and teams need to win to justify those big investments. This creates a lot of competitiveness. I think there's more competitiveness today than when I started many years ago."

For the Spaniard, one of the peloton's statesmen, the recent crashes should prompt riders to reflect on how they race and "learn to use [their] brakes".

"We're the first ones responsible," he said. "If a bend can be taken at 40km/h, we shouldn't try to go into it at 50km/h.

"There's no point in going flat-out with 100km to go. We need to show some good sense and realise that it's not worth winning at any price."
 
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Luis Angel Maté has his 2 cents worth ...
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racin...ing-more-dangerous-nowadays-we-asked-the-pros
At this year's Tour of the Alps, Luis Angel Maté (Euskaltel-Euskadi), a rider with over 15 years of experience, said he believes cycling is "more dangerous nowadays".

"The bikes are quicker, the roads are better, but, above all, cycling is a reflection of society," the 40-year-old told Cycling Weekly. "Today's society moves very fast. Everybody wants to win, more than anything else. There are lots of sponsors, and teams need to win to justify those big investments. This creates a lot of competitiveness. I think there's more competitiveness today than when I started many years ago."

For the Spaniard, one of the peloton's statesmen, the recent crashes should prompt riders to reflect on how they race and "learn to use [their] brakes".

"We're the first ones responsible," he said. "If a bend can be taken at 40km/h, we shouldn't try to go into it at 50km/h.

"There's no point in going flat-out with 100km to go. We need to show some good sense and realise that it's not worth winning at any price."
That would be sensible if riders took that to heart. But the DS’s role in this type of dangerous riding is huge— since they’re urging them on in their earpieces. That makes it more difficult for individual riders (particularly if they’re not stars) to decide to change their riding behavior.
 
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Road racing is an outdoor sport. Race on the track if you don't like that.
Some dude had to be picked up off his bike because he was too cold to get off it himself. Then you have countless riders going back to the cars to get new clothing, then you have riders riding no-handed in the peloton all struggling to put gear on. It's just silly especially during the first half when the race isn't even on yet.
 
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I’d be more open to a rule about minimum coverage at the start line and through first X percent of a race if forecast meets a certain criteria. Otherwise it gets really hard to handle without messing with the race and creating controversy. Even if it was sunny at the start today, the conditions weren’t a surprise.

I don’t think any changes are necessary, but the above would be the easiest and most fair imo if they start cancelling or shortening more races due to cold/rain like they have been.
 
Pro-cycling:
Lionises events like Gavia 1988, Hinault at LBL 1980, or Jesús Loroño wasting energy riding an already neutralised stage and having to be wrestled off his bike. Treats the heroes of yesteryear as superhuman feats to be revered, of man against machine against nature.

Also pro-cycling:
Wants to neutralise or cancel races if it gets a bit too cold or wet.

Adam Hansen: once one of the most revered hard-man domestiques in the bunch, this is your legacy.
 
Well no. They're going to be putting on wet/cold weather gear anyway, I'm just saying in the first hour or so of the race, let them stop for a few minutes to do so safely. Some dude hitting a pothole whilst struggling with his rain jacket can ruin the race/season for quite a few riders. & there's no need for it to happen during the first hour or so of a race.
 
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Well no. They're going to be putting on wet/cold weather gear anyway, I'm just saying in the first hour or so of the race, let them stop for a few minutes to do so safely. Some dude hitting a pothole whilst struggling with his rain jacket can ruin the race/season for quite a few riders. & there's no need for it to happen during the first hour or so of a race.

The big issue is; when would that even be applicable?
Weather like we saw at FW doesn't always happen at the beginning of the race, and when it does, they don't always get enough warning so they would have had time to stop the race before the weather turns for the worse.
From what I understand, one of the issues yesterday was that the change in conditions happened so quickly. Sure, they could still have stopped the race, even if the weather at already gone bad by the time, but then the riders would still have gotten cold.
 
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Just saw the crash of Chris Harper inTour of Alps race. Looks like he entered the corner too fast (no flag warner there) and locked up his rear wheel, immediately losing all control. I think a panic braking with disc brakes is part of the cause of his losing control, as doubtful that the same panic reaction would have locked up a caliper that quickly.
 
Just saw the crash of Chris Harper inTour of Alps race. Looks like he entered the corner too fast (no flag warner there) and locked up his rear wheel, immediately losing all control. I think a panic braking with disc brakes is part of the cause of his losing control, as doubtful that the same panic reaction would have locked up a caliper that quickly.
His bike was really bouncing hard, road was bumpy and there was no signage for that. He might have slowed down if there was.
 
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