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Alphabet said:
Pak istan are really only one or two world class batsmen away from being far-and-away the best team in the world. Younis Khan, Misbah etc. are all good but they haven't been able to replace Inzamam or Mohammed Yousuf.

Shame about , Mohammad Amir very good player.. even when bowling wides. Think the reason he got caught was because he was to good to bowl those wides...
 
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On the topic of Pak istan in the IPL, it's a vile act from the BCCI to deny players entry just because of their nationality. I wonder how they would like it if countries just started boycotting tours of India, similar to what was done with South Africa in the Apartheid era.
 
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Alphabet said:
On the topic of Pak istan in the IPL, it's a vile act from the BCCI to deny players entry just because of their nationality. I wonder how they would like it if countries just started boycotting tours of India, similar to what was done with South Africa in the Apartheid era.
They ban players due to their nationality? so are you saying they ban ****stani players only? - (Serious question as i don't follow IPL)
I understood that there were all different nationalities playing in it Pietersen, Gayle, I didn't realise they banned ****stani players specifically - if they do it stinks! However if that is the case they may have the chance for revenge when the 2 teams meet a xmas.
 
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Can't believe my post got censored for using the term that is internationally recogonised as the correct term for people from ****stan. :confused:
 
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Tom375 said:
They ban players due to their nationality? so are you saying they ban ****stani players only? - (Serious question as i don't follow IPL)
I understood that there were all different nationalities playing in it Pietersen, Gayle, I didn't realise they banned ****stani players specifically - if they do it stinks! However if that is the case they may have the chance for revenge when the 2 teams meet a xmas.

It's not formally prohibited, but the BCCI 'encourage' IPL franchises to not purchase any Pak istani players.

Despite having welcomed the government's decision to resume cricketing ties with ****stan, the BCCI has remained cautious over inviting their players for the lucrative Indian Premier League. Informed sources have stated that the BCCI has discreetly asked all the franchises not to consider opting for ****stan players in the upcoming auctions scheduled to be held in January.

No Pak istani national has played in the IPL since 2008.
 
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Alphabet said:
It's not formally prohibited, but the BCCI 'encourage' IPL franchises to not purchase any Pak istani players.



No Pak istani national has played in the IPL since 2008.
That's crap agree with your earlier point about boycott...
 
[=Alphabet;1093822]Be fair, he's far better than Gayle or Pollard, guys who actively refuse to play for their country in order to participate for the IPL. He's never, as far as I know, skived off a Sri Lanka ODI match to play a T20, which for me automatically means he's rated above the others.

He had a serious knee injury a few years back that forced him to stop playing tests for a while, and if I remember correctly, he made a brief comeback to tests but broke down mid-test and announced his retirement shortly after.

Here's what he has to say:


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And his failure to execute under pressure situations isn't really a reason to call him a mercenary who doesn't care. He's not the first nor will he be the last cricketer to have a poor big match temperament.[/QUOTE]

It is correct that he had a knee injury, but his decision to retire from test cricket was taken hastily when the T20 Champions league was around the corner and after he signed a contract with SLC  for a high value on the understanding that he would be available for test cricket.
This is why most Sri Lankans are suspicious about his intentions

He does have the big match temperament for Mumbai Indians though:D

His lack of effort on the field also irritates us. I remember him being booed by our own supporters for his lack of effort on the field in the World T 20 SF, a rare sight.

Alphabet said:
And you can see it right in front of you. It's no coincidence that India and Sri Lanka have declined since the IPL started, while ****stan, who haven't been allowed to play in the IPL, have actually improved their test team by a vast margin. They're comfortably the best Asian team and it's all because their youngsters don't get their heads turned by Indian rupees.

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I was thinking this to myself when watching the test earlier today. There appears to be little talent coming through in Sri Lanka, either with the bat or ball. You look at the key men of this team and they're all around 35- Dilshan, Jayawardene, Sangakkara, Herath. All of them, Herath aside, distinguished themselves as special cricketers in their youth, while none of the Sri Lankan youngsters expect maybe Mathews seems to have done so.:



t's a blessing in disguise for the pak istani's that their cricketers are ignored in the IPL. They will always be a force in cricket due to their never ending line of talented fast bowlers. War and political instability should be their main concern.

Sadly for us our board is in a financial mess and needs India to survive, so we'll always make our players available to IPL specially at the cost of test cricket.
In fact we postponed the series against SA because of the IPL.
What country on earth would postpone a series against the world No 1 at home?:confused:
Jayawardena and Sanga who say to the media that test cricket is the pinnacle of the sport are quite happy about the postponement too.;)
Mahela was an outstanding schoolboy cricketer and Herath made his test debut aged 20, however Sanga wasn't too highly rated as a schoolboy cricketer even though was a fringe member of the u 19 cricket team and Dilshan played for an outstation school and was a late bloomer. He wasn't a regular until after the 2003 WC when he was about 27 and he really become a Vital player only after turning 30.
Your observation is true for the WC winning generation though. Aravinda, Arjuna, Gurusinghe , Mahanama and Murali were all outstanding school cricketers.
We don't see that caliber school cricketers now, specially batsmen.

However Chandimal, Thirimanna and Dimuth karunarathne are promising batsmen under 23 yrs of age whose test avenues are blocked by the big 3.

Regarding fast bowlers we seem to have better luck with finding softball cricketers outside the school cricket system rather than within it.
Malinga, Suranga lakmal, Nuwan pradeep are such players however they aren't able to stay on the park.

As for spinners it's not easy to replace Murali but there are a couple of promising u19s.

The biggest worry is captaincy. I shudder at the prospect of a Mathews captaincy. Thirimanna seems to be the most suited but he's still only 22, also needs more time.

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If it makes you feel better, your fierce rivals India aren't going to be much better off, and you'll always be better than the West Indies, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and New Zealand :)

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The worst thing is, our current team always loses to India. It's a far cry from the days of Jayasuriya and Aravinda when we always beat them.

In fact it's a common joke here that whenever the Indians want a moral booster they arrange a series with us to prop up their rankings.

Sanga and Mahela are vastly overrated by the Western media.
They may have superior stats but I'd rather have Aravinda & Arjuna/Jayasuriya over Sanga & Mahela any-day to win a match.
 
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Hey TA, what do you think of Akila Dananjaya? I was very impressed by him in the T20 World Cup, he has great control and maturity for someone who's just 19. It's as though Murali made a mini-me of himself. Dananjaya has a similar run up and action, similar variations. He even looks like Murali (minus the curly hair) :D

I think you're being a bit harsh on Sanga. Mahela is definitely overrated, he's a great player in home conditions but he struggles a lot away from home. Sanga on the other hand can perform all over the world, and I don't think he's overrated. Most have him behind Kallis as the 5th best batsman of the 2000s, which is fair enough.

Big job for Mathews and Dilshan tomorrow, they'll need to bat for a long time. Sri Lanka won't have a chance of winning/drawing unless they make at least 350. I don't understand how Samaraweera keeps getting into the team, he's plainly horrible away from home. If I was a selector I'd much rather see one of the youngsters get a go. Chandimal and Thirmanne played quite well in the ODI series earlier in the year, so they have shown they have some ability to play on bouncy wickets. It can't hurt to give one of them a try, after all, Samaraweera will only be able to get maybe a 50 at best throughout the series.
 
Alphabet said:
Hey TA, what do you think of Akila Dananjaya? I was very impressed by him in the T20 World Cup, he has great control and maturity for someone who's just 19. It's as though Murali made a mini-me of himself. Dananjaya has a similar run up and action, similar variations. He even looks like Murali (minus the curly hair) :D

I watched only the SF and Final and he played only in the final. so can't judge yet. First impression was that he's a Mendis type of bowler, cam both both led spin and offies. Too early to judge whether he can be effective tests. He will definitely play ODI s

I think you're being a bit harsh on Sanga. Mahela is definitely overrated, he's a great player in home conditions but he struggles a lot away from home. Sanga on the other hand can perform all over the world, and I don't think he's overrated. Most have him behind Kallis as the 5th best batsman of the 2000s, which is fair enough.

Sangakkara is statistically right up there. But he isn't a match winner and very rarely does he finish a match for us(specially ODI s). Out of our current bunch he definitely is the best on fast wickets.

5th place seems alright though. Lara, Ponting, Sachin and kallis the top 4, with him fighting out with Dravid and Sehwag for 5th.
 
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Dilshan played brilliantly today. If Sri Lanka can avoid getting bowled out in the remaining 20 overs or so then I think they could get a draw out of this.
 
Was pleasantly surprised by our performance. Pity we couldn't hang in until the end. Anyway it's a good effort. At least we are competitive.
If Hilfenhaus can't bowl int he 2nd innings, we have a good chance of a draw.
 
the asian said:
Yr, WTF are they doing. Trying to bat for two days? They'l lose this match trying to stupid things. Shouldn't be too overcautious.

Want to revisit this opinion?;)

Would have liked to see england press on today and try to set the Indians a target rather than just bat things out but i suppose i can understand it. Apparently 50 minutes more is all we have to endure.:)
 
the asian said:
Sangakkara is statistically right up there. But he isn't a match winner and very rarely does he finish a match for us(specially ODI s). Out of our current bunch he definitely is the best on fast wickets.

5th place seems alright though. Lara, Ponting, Sachin and kallis the top 4, with him fighting out with Dravid and Sehwag for 5th.

Your not serious about Sehwag are you, good player but top 5 of the 2000s?
 
del1962 said:
Your not serious about Sehwag are you, good player but top 5 of the 2000s?

He even got in to the Cricinfo all time best test 11.:D

He may be failing now, but he scored heavily in the 00s and at a hectic pace too. Was the architect of many Indian victories. I'll have him fighting for the 5th spot.
 
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Alphabet said:
Riveting stuff from England, Cook especially. 3 off 71 :D.
Don't think the pitch was up to much - neither team scored well on it.. Think India will be well gutted about that - should have been a result pitch!
Anyway could be interesting last day for AUS against SL - SL couldn't get a result could they? (i doubt it but Sanga's still in)
I Love test cricket (apart from when played on pitches like the last ENG v IND pitch) going to be an interesting year (2 Ashes series - Both teams look evenly matched wow!)...
 
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I bet we will not get a result in the SL-Aus test. Australia will struggle to bowl them out imo especially being down on Hilfenhaus and Clarke not being able to bowl some part time spin.
 
What was with the ball tampering allegations re Aussie test ? Supposedly happened in the first innings and it wasn't an official protest. Starc is certainly good, bowling at the tail and had the yorker going nicely. Like to see him do better against the best batsmen.