Nice break, they can make it all the way through, no GC contenders to be afraid of. Bobby ftw !
PS how about starting a topic on best descender ?
PS how about starting a topic on best descender ?
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That's exactly why it may succeed.MBotero said:I don't think the break is gone make it,Bouet is only at 2.43 in GC.
sir fly said:I agree with the opinion that, so called, superb descender(s) are just taking more risks. They're more often on the ground, as well.
del1962 said:Spilak from Romandie evidence is as good as Nibs at descending
Yes he was. He also spent a season in the hospital.Cimber said:not quite. super descenders have the technical ability to handle situations safely that other wouldnt. But ofcourse they can crash too, espeicially when they push it even further.
Savoldelli was a super descender fopr example. He could truly make a huge difference downhill.
sir fly said:Yes he was. He also spent a season in the hospital.
Superb descender is one who's primarily willing to take the risk. That's the quality that divides riders on the descents. I'm sure there are lots off riders who read the curves and hairpins equally well, but they just don't want to gamble.
The explanation of a good descending lies in the character.
When you're speaking about crashes you have to take into the consideration how they've happened. Was it in an effort to make a difference on the descent or in some other way.Cimber said:Lots of riders crash badly, descending or not, being good or bad.
My point is that being good or bad at descending regularly doesnt come down to just taking risks. Good descenders often have much better bike handling.
They do stuff other riders would deem risky, but it isnt especially risky for them since they are better bike handlers. That, however, doesnt mean that they never crash. All riders crash now and then.
sir fly said:When you're speaking about crashes you have to take into the consideration how they've happened. Was it in an effort to make a difference on the descent or in some other way.
Nibali's serial falls during the Tirreno stage last year were exclusively due to the effort. Savoldelli's fall too. (I'm naming the typical cases)
If you're using that argument you need to count the falls, classify them into causal categories, compare to the rest of falls, see if there's a difference and then try to pull a conclusion.
This way you're just randomly listing arguments trying to strengthen your position.
Superb descending is a reflection of the trait of personality.
You're probably right. (not probably, certainly)Dr. Juice said:You mean Giro right? In Tirreno he attacked on the descent (St. Elpidio stage) and made the difference together with Sagan and Rodriguez, taking the jersey from Froome.
sir fly said:When you're speaking about crashes you have to take into the consideration how they've happened. Was it in an effort to make a difference on the descent or in some other way.
Nibali's serial falls during the Tirreno stage last year were exclusively due to the effort. Savoldelli's fall too. (I'm naming the typical cases)
If you're using that argument you need to count the falls, classify them into causal categories, compare to the rest of falls, see if there's a difference and then try to pull a conclusion.
This way you're just randomly listing arguments trying to strengthen your position.
Superb descending is a reflection of the trait of personality.
PirazziAttacksVino said:Why would Contador try to go crazy on a descent when he said that he's not there with a big desire to win. He's there to see how his and his opposition's preparation is going.
happychappy said:Yeah. Not winning is the new winning.