Critérium du Dauphiné 2024, June 2 - 9

[Rackham]

From the top of my head

Lance Dauphine 2004 4th
Nibali Dauphine 2014 7th
Froome Dauphine 2017 4th
Pogacar Dauphine 2020 4th
Vingo Dauphine 2021 nowhere

3 weeks is a long time

Vingegaard Paris-Nice 2023. He went from getting dropped by Pog & finishing behind Gaudu to destroying Itzulia (& the same Gaudu) one month later.

 

[Taxus4a]

Well, Froome has been bad. I am not very surprising after lot of time of compiting and the level que showed at Mercan Tour. The weather want hot this time...stronh ridders on the tema to work for....

Positivaly I said he finished the race, becouse lot of people didnt. But of I said Froome was bad,,, Gorka Izaguirre was worse...I dont know his circusntaces, but he finished worse at GC and I dint see him trying anything or working. Maybe he did..Froome was some times positioning his team mates before the decissive climb.

 

[movingtarget]

Good save by Roglic. Thought he was done.

 

[Rackham]

Good save by Roglic. Thought he was done.

Me too tbh.

The final stretch to the line on shallow gradients & no drafting is like the worst thing for Roglič when he's cracking.

In the end it was a great save & great example of crisis management in a stressful situation. Bora can learn from this one.

 

[movingtarget]

Vingegaard Paris-Nice 2023. He went from getting dropped by Pog & finishing behind Gaudu to destroying Itzulia (& the same Gaudu) one month later.

The French are going to have to wait longer for another grand tour contender. Gaudu isn't it. He's not as good as Pinot or Bardet, maybe not even as good as Rolland or Voeckler in grand tours .

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Good save by Roglic. Thought he was done.

He looked so cooked after the race, amazing he was able to hold on to the GC win.

 

[Tim Cahill]

My boy Gorka Izagirre just catching the most unnecessary and uncalled for stray I think I've ever seen on this forum

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

The day I can follow any rider I want via their own cameras I'm gonna be content.

170-odd drones in close proximity sounds hazardous, to say the least.

 

[YavorD]

From the top of my head

Lance Dauphine 2004 4th
Nibali Dauphine 2014 7th
Froome Dauphine 2017 4th
Pogacar Dauphine 2020 4th
Vingo Dauphine 2021 nowhere

3 weeks is a long time

Carlos Rodriguez to win the Tour then.
Or wait.. Evenepoel!

 

[Rackham]

FYI the fact the entire Bora team exploded at the end suggests to me it's a combination of factors which caused the crack, i.e. including the preparation so far. The team isn't at their optimal level yet & I hope they get there by July.

The French are going to have to wait longer for another grand tour contender. Gaudu isn't it. He's not as good as Pinot or Bardet, maybe not even as good as Rolland or Voeckler in grand tours .

Gaudu is at a turning point in his career. He can either persist with lower top 10 finishes every year in the Tour (over 20 minutes down on the winner), or attempt a reconversion into stage hunter.

But ironically considering he has decent punch (& he's won WT stage races before), he also now seems to lack incisiveness & race craft.

 

[Escarabajo]

So finally we got a good race. Nice tension at the end. After today Tadej Pogacar is feeling really good about the double. Some good surprises in the GC towards the end.

 

[Froome]

From the top of my head

Lance Dauphine 2004 4th
Nibali Dauphine 2014 7th
Froome Dauphine 2017 4th
Pogacar Dauphine 2020 4th
Vingo Dauphine 2021 nowhere

3 weeks is a long time

5 weeks is a long time.....i think the Tour will really "start" on Pla d adet and Plateau de beille. The first 2 weeks will be about get out of trouble.

 

[Froome]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1799803106777301471

View: https://x.com/WattsinCycling/status/1799803106777301471


6.5 w/kg during 20 minutes was a great performance for the top riders some years ago.

Now in 2024, 6.5 w/kg during 20 minutes is the new normal for the the second line of GT riders.

 

[Rob5091]

Roglic hung on for the GC - Chapeau! Bora & Ineos should be glad for the weeks work as should be Gee & jorgenson. Lidl must be disappointed Hart could not compete. The rest, a lot of questions if they're hoping for big things at the Tour.

 

[Põhja Konn]

Look if Rogla dropped Angrilu performances 4-5 times in the TDF, Teddy would have a race. Won’t happen Ofcourse

My point was that this alone is not enough to declare Pogs Tour win a foregone conclusion. How well he handles back-to-back GTs is the main unknown factor about his Giro-Tour double, and barring Vingegaard reaching peak form for the Tour against all odds, it is the most likely determinant whether he wins or loses the Tour.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Actually people are talking like it's impossible for anyone but Remco to improve before the tour

All the improvement will still end up looking at the back of a UAE jersey, as he rides away, effortlessly.

 

[Rackham]

So finally we got a good race. Nice tension at the end. After today Tadej Pogacar is feeling really good about the double. Some good surprises in the GC towards the end.

I'm not going to pretend I know what any of these guys are thinking but I assume this is exactly not what Pog is thinking right now. If I was to guess I'd say Pog will be thinking about his own form, how the team will work together & also studying potential traps on the road.

There's no way these riders sit back with their feet up watching their rivals racing whilst thinking "Yup... these dudes are suckage incarnate I'll torch them!"

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm not going to pretend I know what any of these guys are thinking but I assume this is exactly not what Pog is thinking right now. If I was to guess I'd say Pog will be thinking about his own form, how the team will work together & also studying potential traps on the road.

There's no way these riders sit back with their feet up watching their rivals racing whilst thinking "Yup... these dudes are suckage incarnate I'll torch them!"

Pogi likes to watch cycling

 

[noob]

170-odd drones in close proximity sounds hazardous, to say the least.

I'm thinking more of high tech smaller go pros. Not asking for very high resolution images. But simply the opportunity to see the race through the helmet (for example) of riders I like would be really fun!

 

[Volderke]

At this point, I won't even be surprised if Jorgenson podiums the Tour, he is like a worse version of Pogačar.

Aren't we all?

 

[Volderke]

So basically we can conclude that Remco is almost at the level of Roglic already.

It took 3 days of training in Dauphine and the wake-up call about his weight by some forum pundits.

 

[Salvarani]

I'm not going to pretend I know what any of these guys are thinking but I assume this is exactly not what Pog is thinking right now. If I was to guess I'd say Pog will be thinking about his own form, how the team will work together & also studying potential traps on the road.

There's no way these riders sit back with their feet up watching their rivals racing whilst thinking "Yup... these dudes are suckage incarnate I'll torch them!"

Yes, it is hard work and consistency that pays off in the end.

 

[Volderke]

Actually people are talking like it's impossible for anyone but Remco to improve before the tour

He has the biggest margin / potential for improvement, besides Vingegaard.

 

[sam6]

I hope this puts an end to the myth that Roglic and Evenepoel can realistically compete with Pogi and Vingegaard. Yes, neither of them will have ideal prep, but the gap is just too big

 

[AmRacer]

I hope this puts an end to the myth that Roglic and Evenepoel can realistically compete with Pogi and Vingegaard. Yes, neither of them will have ideal prep, but the gap is just too big

There are a few other riders who can finish between Jonas/Pogacar and R&R