Critérium du Dauphiné 2025, June 8 - 15

[CyclistAbi]

Potomac wasn't talking about who wears #1 at the Dauphine, he was talking about who, from Bora, should get to wear #n1 in the Tour. As in the number in whatever set of numbers Bora is assigned that ends in 1...
Each team will have a rider wearing the #n1 dossard.

I don't think CyclistAbi gets the numbering scheme at all. Or maybe she is just being obtuse.

@Potomac was saying a lot of things, in the team thread too, i just reminded everybody on why Maxim is wearing 1 at this Dauphiné edition. As for the rest of debate, started by others, guys likely you are confusing it with young rider classification, or something. All in all the Tour is just around the corner and best to wait and see, on how team numbering schemes will roll. And if any further discussion, beyond what is expected, will be the result.

 

[Boehmand]

Damn, Lidl didn't let Cort go - as soon as the caught him back the speed decreased - they want those 3 in the break and nobody else.

 

[Red Rick]

There is soooo no reason for the Dauphine to have this many sprint stages.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congrats to Remco for smashing the TT.

Jonas and Matteo both flying, that much for the theory they aren't mainly here to win the overall, this was no holiday ride. Pogi, something was off, so this TT didn't surprise in a way some rider to unexpectedly perform beyond expectation, what instead happened is one of them underperformed. Pogi put himself in rather tough position, as now he has to distance Jonas if the idea is still to win GC. Lipo with a stellar TT and now in a position to test himself to the fullest in a rather relaxed way, lets see on how it goes.

 

[Boehmand]

@Potomac was saying a lot of things, in the team thread too, i just reminded everybody on why Maxim is wearing 1 at this Dauphiné edition. As for the rest of debate, started by others, guys likely you are confusing it with young rider classification, or something. All in all the Tour is just around the corner and best to wait and see, on how team numbering schemes will roll. And if any further discussion, beyond what is expected, will be the result.

You're missing the point Abi

The first digit in the rider number is defined by the results in the previous years race (it also defines the order of team cars on the first stage).

The winner (Pogacar) and his team gets single digit numbers, if he doesn't start the "1" goes to whomever the team wants (arguably the captain).

But the second digit (for all the teams with 2 digit numbers) is entirely upto the team, and traditionally the "1" is the designated captain (but doesn't have to be, the team chooses).

So Vismas 2 digit numbers will all start with "1" because Vingegaard got 2nd last year, and the team then decides to give him a "1" because he is the captain - so his number is "11".

The debate is about who will be the "designated captain" - not about who did what last year

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

You're missing the point Abi

The first digit in the rider number is defined by the results in the previous years race (it also defines the order of team cars on the first stage).

But the second digit it entirely upto the team, and traditionally the "1" is the designated captain (but doesn't have to be, the team chooses).

So Vismas numbers will all start with "2" because Vingegaard got 2nd last year, and the team then decides to give him a "1" because he is the captain - so his number is "21".

The debate is about who will be the "designated captain" - not about who did what last year

Normally the team of the rider finishing 2nd would be racing with numbers 11-18, not 21-28…

 

[Tim Cahill]

Good chance of another break emerging around the hills as it's been kept so close, hopefully after the broadcast starts.

 

[Boehmand]

Normally the team of the rider finishing 2nd would be racing with numbers 11-18, not 21-28…

You are right - so Vingegaard is 11 not 21 - my bad, I'll edit the post

 

[moljoh]

You are right - so Vingegaard is 11 not 21 - my bad, I'll edit the post

Vinny at 11

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Vinny at 11

Fishy legend in the making!

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Boehmand

That was always a spin-off debate, not having much to do with the initial debate, point trying to be made in this and the team thread, main argument, by some, that Lipo should be the GC leader of the Tour team. When i called that BS out, people started talking numbers and i guess started being confused with young rider classification.

 

[moljoh]

Fishy legend in the making!

Oh that must be the real Jonas

 

[CyclistAbi]

Playlist suggestion for Pogi:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbB3iGRHtqA


The chase is better than the catch ...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PktB0bxo2oQ


The chase is better than the catch ...

We so got this.

 

[Berflamand]

Remco's not exactly stellar mountain support team for the next stages just got even weaker with a crash and subsequent abandon of Vervaeke.

 

[Berniece]

Remco's not exactly stellar mountain support team for the next stages just got even weaker with a crash and subsequent abandon of Vervaeke.

There’s Paret-Peintre and Schachman

 

[CyclistAbi]

Pogi rode a bad ITT out of respect to Remco.

 

[moljoh]

Pogi rode a bad ITT out of respect to Remco.

Exactly, supposedly he broke a deal with Jonas before the stage for JV to do the same but later Jonas broke the deal and foolled Pogi in the end...

 

[Berflamand]

There’s Paret-Peintre and Schachman

Yes and if they're in shape they should be very valuable but they will have their work cut out for them this weekend because once the road goes up I don't think you can expect much from Pedersen, Reinderink or Eekhoorn.

 

[jmdirt]

If changing the length of the crank arm, changes the force applied (because you are pushing the pedal softer/harder) - for the same time/distance

Changing the crank length doesn't change the force applied, what you put in parenthesis does. Do you mean to ask, if the same watts are applied to a 165 lever vs a 170 lever how does that change output at the wheel? Are we assuming the same gear ratio as well?

 

[houtdffan]

Hinault didn't wait, he got caught coming down and then dropped on the last climb. Over the Peyresourde, the third climb, it became obvious that Bernard didn't have every ace. He was weakening while the chasers weren't. Lemond won the stage and in the Alpes showed his superiority on the Granon. Greg should have dropped Hinault on Alpe d'Huez too, which was a mistake not having done so. If Hinault had not so brazzenly attacked on the Peuresourde stage and ridden defensively, he may have won that Tour on tactics, but Greg was unquestionably stronger that year and so the gods rendered justice (for once) in the end.

Hinault had 2-3 mins at the top of the peyresourde. He was caught about 3 km after the summit.

 

[Tim Cahill]

At least Foss has a go, not many teams with an excuse to not try something here

 

[Berniece]

Yes and if they're in shape they should be very valuable but they will have their work cut out for them this weekend because once the road goes up I don't think you can expect much from Pedersen, Reinderink or Eekhoorn.

Why wouldn’t they be in shape? They went to the same altitude camp, and it went well for everyone

 

[danielzu]

Tejada crashed according to pcs. Is he ok?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Lenny Martinez mechanical in the legs?

 

[Berflamand]

Why wouldn’t they be in shape? They went to the same altitude camp, and it went well for everyone

True, I just hope it will be enough to control potentially dangerous situations so that Remco can focus on trying to compete against Pogi/Vingegaard.