Critérium du Dauphiné May 30-June 6 2021

[Escarabajo]

ISN will send Froome to the Tour. No way they miss out on the publicity after all the money they paid.

 

[Pinot's goat]

With TGH, Thomas, Carapaz and to a lesser extent Porte, Dennis and A. Yates, I still wonder who they will be riding for. I think they cannot afford to keep three or more riders protected.

Dennis is not a GC contender and Yates is doing La Vuelta, Porte said he is giving up GC.

 

[movingtarget]

ISN will send Froome to the Tour. No way they miss out on the publicity after all the money they paid.

No doubt.

 

[Fantastico]

World of difference between the two egomaniacs Landa and Quintana and Superman and Mas. I really like this group, vamos Alejandro!!

I don't think that Landa was an egomaniac. In the Movistar documentary, especially in the Giro, he came across as a team player, even though riding for Carapaz compromised his personal goals.

 

[Leinster]

With TGH, Thomas, Carapaz and to a lesser extent Porte, Dennis and A. Yates, I still wonder who they will be riding for. I think they cannot afford to keep three or more riders protected.

Out of that group, it has to be Carapaz, with the only wild card being if Bernal decides he fancies it.

 

[Fantastico]

Dennis is not a GC contender and Yates is doing La Vuelta, Porte said he is giving up GC.

Didn't know that Yates is not going to the Tour, thanks. I know about Porte, but maybe they try to keep im high in GC just in case.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I don't think that Landa was a egomaniac. In the Movistar documentary, especially in the Giro, he came across as a team player, even though riding for Carapaz compromised his personal goals.

Youre right, thats too harsh. But case in point is it just didnt work at all with these guys, Lopez and Mas just comes across as much better team players.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

TGH seems ready to peak at the right time. I think he will be the strongest Ineo$ rider in July

Don't know if he'll be the strongest Ineos rider come July but it's nice to see him in good shape again and animating the race.

He's an odd duck.

Nobody really viewed him as a Giro contender (pre-race) last year, but he's like the little engine that could, he just keeps chugging on.

Obviously the Tour is a different level, but I would not be surprised if he ended up on the podium, after the usual GC favorites exiting the race due to injuries, or losing strength in week 3.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

ISN will send Froome to the Tour. No way they miss out on the publicity after all the money they paid.

I would question the value of that publicity, when it is 3 weeks of "why does your team suck?"

 

[Broccolidwarf]

With TGH, Thomas, Carapaz and to a lesser extent Porte, Dennis and A. Yates, I still wonder who they will be riding for. I think they cannot afford to keep three or more riders protected.

Thomas, Carapaz and to a lesser extent TGH will be the protected riders.

 

[jaylew]

Out of that group, it has to be Carapaz, with the only wild card being if Bernal decides he fancies it.

Bernal's been saying he won't be there and even if he is he'd be very unlikely to be in shape to compete for the win after the Giro.

 

[Escarabajo]

This will be a nice one to watch in next year's Movistar doc.

Let's wait for the third season.
Story goes that the Movistar team found out how Lopez got his nickname and the video from the Giro and everything is cool now!!!!

 

[MartinGT]

ISN will send Froome to the Tour. No way they miss out on the publicity after all the money they paid.

No such thing as bad publicity eh?

 

[Leinster]

20 riders finished in the same time today. These riders should also be the strongest tomorrow and on sunday.

Here the team distribution:

Movistar Team	3​
INEOS Grenadiers	3​
Team Jumbo-Visma	2​
BORA - hansgrohe	2​
Astana - Premier Tech	2​
Cofidis, Solutions Crédits	1​
Team BikeExchange	1​
Team Arkéa Samsic	1​
Groupama - FDJ	1​
Team DSM	1​
Israel Start-Up Nation	1​
Bahrain - Victorious	1​
Intermarché - Wanty - Gobert Matériaux	1​

I'm actually really impressed that Craddock managed to finish 5.55 behind Valverde. He must have got off and walked after they caught him.

 

[Leinster]

Bernal's been saying he won't be there and even if he is he'd be very unlikely to be in shape to compete for the win after the Giro.

I know all that, but Bernal is still more likely to be Ineos' leader at the Tour than Porte or Dennis.

 

[Escarabajo]

I would question the value of that publicity, when it is 3 weeks of "why does your team suck?"

That is huge publicity whether we like it or not!

 

[Broccolidwarf]

20 riders finished in the same time today. These riders should also be the strongest tomorrow and on sunday.

Here the team distribution:

Movistar Team	3​
INEOS Grenadiers	3​
Team Jumbo-Visma	2​
BORA - hansgrohe	2​
Astana - Premier Tech	2​
Cofidis, Solutions Crédits	1​
Team BikeExchange	1​
Team Arkéa Samsic	1​
Groupama - FDJ	1​
Team DSM	1​
Israel Start-Up Nation	1​
Bahrain - Victorious	1​
Intermarché - Wanty - Gobert Matériaux	1​

You should include the first 4 not in the same time (Paret-Peintre, O'Connor, Skjelmose, Aru) on that list.

They came in at the back of the group, but small gaps meant their time difference to Valverde counted.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I remember someone saying yesterday, that Skjelmose would drop a minute on the TT.
Are you worried yet?

My exact quote was:

"Then he can start praying Van Wilder has 2 punctures tomorrow, or he'll be looking at a 1+ minute deficit before they start climbing. "

Tomorrow they start climbing.

1	1	-	VAN WILDER Ilan	Team DSM	20:52:29
2	2	-	PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien	AG2R Citroën Team	0:37
3	4	▲1	GAUDU David	Groupama - FDJ	0:46
4	3	▼1	SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	Trek - Segafredo	1:00

 

[jaylew]

I know all that, but Bernal is still more likely to be Ineos' leader at the Tour than Porte or Dennis.

Certainly true for Dennis but I could see a scenario where Porte becomes leader. One of those guys has an issue and loses time, another just isn't on form and Porte is...

 

[Escarabajo]

I don't think that Landa was an egomaniac. In the Movistar documentary, especially in the Giro, he came across as a team player, even though riding for Carapaz compromised his personal goals.

Sure, and Arkea is Armageddon now. It is past now and we only have the stories.
Chemistry between riders sometimes is inexplicable. I'll tell you that I have never thought that Lopez would do a lead out for Valverde in a race like this. Especially since he is ahead on the GC. And from all riders (Landa, Quintana, Mas, Valverde) Lopez is the most aggressive if you ask me. So there you have it.

 

[Bonimenier]

My exact quote was:

"Then he can start praying Van Wilder has 2 punctures tomorrow, or he'll be looking at a 1+ minute deficit before they start climbing. "

Tomorrow they start climbing.

1	1	-	VAN WILDER Ilan	Team DSM	20:52:29
2	2	-	PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien	AG2R Citroën Team	0:37
3	4	▲1	GAUDU David	Groupama - FDJ	0:46
4	3	▼1	SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	Trek - Segafredo	1:00

Technically he isn't 1+ minute behind.

 

[Leinster]

You should include the first 4 not in the same time (Paret-Peintre, O'Connor, Skjelmose, Aru) on that list.

They came in at the back of the group, but small gaps meant their time difference to Valverde counted.

Paret-Peintre at 13s, I'll grant you. But the other 3 at 10 and 12 seconds behind that, that's not "small gaps," those guys got dropped.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Technically he isn't 1+ minute behind.

We don't know that. They don't count behind the comma.

Paret-Peintre at 13s, I'll grant you. But the other 3 at 10 and 12 seconds behind that, that's not "small gaps," those guys got dropped.

Dropped is such a subjective term.

 

[Bonimenier]

We don't know that. They don't count behind the comma.

The hundreds in the TT are in favour of Skjelmose

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The hundreds in the TT are in favour of Skjelmose

I bet you get invited to parties a lot!