Criterium International - The showdown

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auscyclefan94 said:
(Deep Breaths, Deep Breaths)
Trying not to take the bait of BroDeal's trolldom!

Count to 10 and think of the soothing image of Evans' rainbow stripes.;)
 
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BroDeal said:
That's not a troll. Them's the facts.

Evans should have supported Popo in a race that Popo targeted. It was a huge mistake, and it probably speaks a lot about why Evans' teammates never seem to get along that well with him.

Sorry Angliru, he's pushed me too far even when i thought of the raibow stripes!

How did evans screw popo over? Evans rode for Popo in PN but evans was stronger (reffering to Ventoux stage). Popo cracked and evans thought he may as well keep on going. You've outsed dimspace by bullying/annoying him but your not doing it to me.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
How did evans screw popo over? Evans rode for Popo in PN but evans was stronger (reffering to Ventoux stage). Popo cracked and evans thought he may as well keep on going. You've outsed dimspace by bullying/annoying him but your not doing it to me.

Popo did not crack. He could not follow Gesink's attack, so he limited his losses in same the way that Evans is used to doing. He came in like thirty seconds down. Evans should have paced Popo up the final bit of the climb just as he was hoping Popo would do for him in July.

Popovich placed third the year before. He was targeting that race, and he finished thinking that Evans had screwed him. The end result is that for a stage win in P-N, Evans cost himself the support that may have won him the 2008 Tour.

Dimspace left because he had other problems. Instead of silently going on his way, he lamely tried to cast blame on other people, even making ridiculous claims that he was thinking of the "children" who might read this forum. He was weak, and so were his excuses.
 
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Polish said:
Shack Attack Roster for the Crit Int'l:

Critérium International (Fra), March 27-28, 2010

Riders: Lance Armstrong, Matthew Busche, Ben Hermans, Chris Horner, Tiago Machado, Sérgio Paulinho, Yaroslav Popovych & Ivan RovnyDirectors: Johan Bruyneel & Alain Gallopin


Hey, is this Busche's (pronounce boo-shay) first Euro Trip?

Judging them on their current form, that looks a weak bunch of wheelchair pushers he's flogging.
Popo was awful at P-N. Tiara Machado has peaked for the season. If Horner does the usual and falls off.......

Astana look much stronger on paper.

As to the rear of Ventoux stage of Paris-Nice and Popo and Cuddles, I saw it and wouldn't like to make the call.
Seemed to me at the time, that the decision was made on the road. I'll have to dig out the tape and have another look. Memory and all that.
 
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BroDeal said:
Popo did not crack. He could not follow Gesink's attack, so he limited his losses in same the way that Evans is used to doing. He came in like thirty seconds down. Evans should have paced Popo up the final bit of the climb just as he was hoping Popo would do for him in July.

Popovich placed third the year before. He was targeting that race, and he finished thinking that Evans had screwed him. The end result is that for a stage win in P-N, Evans cost himself the support that may have won him the 2008 Tour.

+1

Popo even shouted at Evans asking him to wait for him. Evans screwed him.
 
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BroDeal said:
Popovich placed third the year before. He was targeting that race, and he finished thinking that Evans had screwed him. The end result is that for a stage win in P-N, Evans cost himself the support that may have won him the 2008 Tour.

Eh,what? Lulu was third in 2007.
 
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BroDeal said:
Ack! You're right. Popo ended up third in 2008. Now I cannot remember why Popo was targeting P-N.

You are right, Paris-Nice was Popovych's major goal for the first part of season, but the problem was that it was only his third (IIRC) race of the season and his fitness level certainly wasn't optimal. Popovych had a blog where he wrote in both Russian and Ukrainian, during the P-N there were many questions about their relationship with Evans,but actually he said that that he himself made a mistake, was too concentrated on Rebellin and missed Gesink's initial acceleration. He (Popovych) also had some problems with bike's wheels, apparently.

When I asked Popo whether Evans was working for him or just wanted a stage win, he said that it was team's initial plan for Evans to stay on strongest climber's wheel and win a stage, if possible.

So, sometimes some of you guys tend to blame Evans in situations where he is actually innocent.:)
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Sorry Angliru, he's pushed me too far even when i thought of the raibow stripes!

How did evans screw popo over? Evans rode for Popo in PN but evans was stronger (reffering to Ventoux stage). Popo cracked and evans thought he may as well keep on going. You've outsed dimspace by bullying/annoying him but your not doing it to me.

Actually, I agree with Brodeal. To garner the uncompromising support that he would have needed in the mountains of the Tour, Evans really needed to show that he was willing to do the same in races that aren't goals of his. With Popo unable to respond, Evans predesignated as support for Popo should have dragged Popo to the finish. He did not. Whether that is the real reason for Popo's poor Tour performance or that he just didn't have it is really unknown to all but the Lotto team, we can only guess.
 
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Angliru said:
Actually, I agree with Brodeal. To garner the uncompromising support that he would have needed in the mountains of the Tour, Evans really needed to show that he was willing to do the same in races that aren't goals of his. With Popo unable to respond, Evans predesignated as support for Popo should have dragged Popo to the finish. He did not. Whether that is the real reason for Popo's poor Tour performance or that he just didn't have it is really unknown to all but the Lotto team, we can only guess.

Read the previous post...Evans was riding according to team directions...
 
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theswordsman said:
Mark Renshaw tweeted that he was out for an easy ride with Lance and Thor. Contador is already in Corsica doing recon on the course.

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=24360

Four climbs then a mountain finish with 14 kilometers at 6.2%, plus beautiful scenery. I hope the weather is good and the stage as interesting as it should be.

Soler will be making his season debut at this race as well. So for the overall we have Armstrong (TOTB:p), Contador (AST), Evans (BMC), Samu (EUS), Michael Rogers (HTC). Anyone else we should keep an eye out for?
 
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Publicus said:
Anyone else we should keep an eye out for?

Kessiakof might do somthing, so can Cobo, Løvkvist, Soler and Vino.

EDIT: Oh if Yevgeniy Nepomnyachshiy rides he can do somthing, placed 5th last years u23 world. And is a good clasic rider, and a climber
 
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Publicus said:
Soler will be making his season debut at this race as well. So for the overall we have Armstrong (TOTB:p), Contador (AST), Evans (BMC), Samu (EUS), Michael Rogers (HTC). Anyone else we should keep an eye out for?

Add Dan Martin, Lovkvist, Moreau, B.Feillu.

What about Rasmus Guldhammer? He is a potential climbing star although I've never seen how he rides.
 
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Delicato said:
Add Dan Martin, Lovkvist, Moreau, B.Feillu.

What about Rasmus Guldhammer? He is a potential climbing star although I've never seen how he rides.

Any of those 4 good against the clock? Lovkvist maybe?
 
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Team HTC - Columbia
Frantisek RABON
Michael ALBASINI
Bert GRABSCH
Rasmus GULDHAMMER POULSEN
Maxime MONFORT
Marco PINOTTI
Michael ROGERS
Peter VELITS
R Adam HANSEN
R Tony MARTIN

Astana
Alberto CONTADOR VELASCO
Dmitriy FOFONOV
Maxim GOUROV
Roman KIREYEV
Daniel NAVARRO GARCIA
Benjamin NOVAL GONZALEZ
Bolat RAIMBEKOV
Alexandre VINOKOUROV
R Scott DAVIS
R Yevgeniy NEPOMNYACHSHIY
R Oscar PEREIRO SIO
R Gorazd STANGELJ

Team RadioShack
Lance ARMSTRONG
Matthew BUSCHE
Ben HERMANS
Christopher HORNER
Tiago MACHADO
Sergio Miguel Moreira PAULINHO
Ivan ROVNY
José Luis RUBIERA VIGIL
R Daryl IMPEY
R Jaroslav POPOVYCH
R Bjorn SELANDER

AG2R - La mondiale


ALM FRA
Maxime BOUET
Hubert DUPONT
Alexander EFIMKIN
John GADRET
Yuriy KRIVTSOV
David LELAY
Rene MANDRI
R Guillaume BONNAFOND
R Cyril DESSEL
R Julien LOUBET
R Nicolas ROCHE

Garmin - Transitions
David MILLAR
Kirk CARLSEN
Fredrik KESSIAKOFF
Trent LOWE
Daniel MARTIN
Danny PATE
Thomas PETERSON
Ricardo VAN DER VELDE
R Steven COZZA
R Michel KREDER
R Peter STETINA

BMC Racing Team
Cadel EVANS
Brent BOOKWALTER
Mathias FRANK
Thomas FREI
Jeffry LOUDER
Steve MORABITO
Mauro SANTAMBROGIO
Florian STALDER
R Chris BARTON
R Chad BEYER
R Alexandre MOOS
R Jackson STEWART

Cofidis, le crédit en ligne
David MONCOUTIé
Leonardo DUQUE
Julien EL FARES
Kalle KRIIT
Amael MOINARD
Remi PAURIOL

Française des jeux
Benoit VAUGRENARD
Pierre CAZAUX
Mikael CHéREL
Gianni MEERSMAN
Anthony ROUX
Wesley SULZBERGER
Jussi VEIKKANEN
Artur VICHOT

Sky Pro Cycling Team
Thomas LöVKVIST
Sylvain CALZATI
Kjell CARLSTRöM
Stephen CUMMINGS
Russel DOWNING
Simon GERRANS
Serge PAUWELS
R Peter KENNAUGH
R Lars Petter NORDHAUG

BBox Bouygues Telecom
Thomas VOECKLER
Yukiya ARASHIRO
Anthony CHARTEAU
Pierrick FéDRIGO
Cyril GAUTIER
Laurent LEFèVRE
Pierre ROLLAND
Yuriy TROFIMOV
R Franck BOUYER
R Steve CHAINEL
R Alexandre PICHOT

Caisse d'Epargne


GCE ESP
Christophe MOREAU
Andrey AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA
Arnold JEANNESSON
David LOPEZ GARCIA
Angel MADRAZO RUIZ
Mathieu PERGET
Juan Mauricio SOLER HERNANDEZ
Rigoberto URAN

Euskaltel - Euskadi
Samuel SANCHEZ GONZALEZ
Jorge AZANTA SOTO
Beñat INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA
Gorka IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI
Egoi MARTINEZ DE ESTEBAN
Mikel NIEVE ITURRALDE
Juan José OROZ UGALDE
Gorka VERDUGO MARCOTEGUI
R Miguel MINGUEZ AYALA

Saur - Sojasun
Jeróme COPPEL
Jimmy ENGOULVENT
Jonathan HIVERT
Sébastien JOLY
Cyril LEMOINE
Guillaume LEVARLET
Laurent MANGEL
Julien SIMON
R Cyril BESSY
R Jérémy GALLAND

R Fabrice JEANDESBOZ

Skil - Shimano
Yukihiro DOI
Alexandre GENIEZ
Simon GESCHKE
Yann HUGUET
Thierry HUPOND
Piet ROOIJAKKERS
Albert TIMMER
Frederik WILMANN
R Dominique CORNU
R David DEROO
R Feng HAN

Roubaix Lille Metropole
Clément LHOTELLERIE
Jocelyn BAR
Matthieu BOULO
Renaud DION
Mickael LARPE
Arnaud MOLMY
Cédric PINEAU
Steven TRONET
R Benoît DAENINCK
R Morgan KNEISKY
R Alexandre LEMAIR

Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team
Brice FEILLU
Matteo CARRARA
Michal GOLAS
Johnny HOOGERLAND
Sergey LAGUTIN
Wouter POELS
Stéphane ROSSETTO
Rob RUIJGH
Romain FEILLU
Arnoud VAN GROEN
Joost VAN LEIJEN


Bretagne - Schuller
Eduardo GONZALO RAMIREZ
Florian GUILLOU
Romain HARDY
Lilian JEGOU
Johan LE BON
Gael MALACARNE
Florian VACHON
R Jean-Marc BIDEAU
R Sébastien DURET
R Mathieu HALLEGUEN
R Noan LELARGE
R Laurent PICHON

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=24358
 
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Delicato said:
Add Dan Martin, Lovkvist, Moreau, B.Feillu.

What about Rasmus Guldhammer? He is a potential climbing star although I've never seen how he rides.

Guldhammer is interesting as is Frederik Wilmann. Both young climbers, but against the clock??
 
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TRDean said:
Read the previous post...Evans was riding according to team directions...

Sometimes as the team leader you have to make your own decisions on the road. It's not like Lotto management have shown exemplary tactical skills in the grand tours.
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
Yep. Lance has always had a strong team, usually the strongest in the peloton.

If Alberto wins this year, with this "weak" Astana team, it will be a testament to his talent and to an overachieving Astana team.

He practically didn't have a team last year, everybody was working for lance armstrong
 
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Angliru said:
Sometimes as the team leader you have to make your own decisions on the road. It's not like Lotto management have shown exemplary tactical skills in the grand tours.

Point taken...
 
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BroDeal said:
Popo did not crack. He could not follow Gesink's attack, so he limited his losses in same the way that Evans is used to doing. He came in like thirty seconds down. Evans should have paced Popo up the final bit of the climb just as he was hoping Popo would do for him in July.

Popovich placed third the year before. He was targeting that race, and he finished thinking that Evans had screwed him. The end result is that for a stage win in P-N, Evans cost himself the support that may have won him the 2008 Tour.

Dimspace left because he had other problems. Instead of silently going on his way, he lamely tried to cast blame on other people, even making ridiculous claims that he was thinking of the "children" who might read this forum. He was weak, and so were his excuses.

Dimspace left because there aren't enough Sky chamois-sniffers on this forum, and that's all there is to it.
 
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BikeCentric said:
Dimspace left because there aren't enough Sky chamois-sniffers on this forum, and that's all there is to it.

You should follow him...please! Enough already.