Dan Martin - "Now I know you can win clean"

[BigMac]

There are broken ribs and there are broken ribs, just saying Benotti.

 

[blackcat]

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Dan Martin broke 2 ribs at Tour De Romandie and now is climbing with the best in the sport in his 1st race back a month later?????

How could he train with damaged ribs to be even in any kind of shape to race at such a level. Fractured ribs normally take 6 weeks to heal and that is not while training????

Amazing how pro cyclists have these super powers..........

vandevelde did it twice, once a broken hip in the Giro, about 2008 i recall, and gets back for the Tour.

= NOT NORMAL

sorry JV, but it aint

 

[Benotti69]

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There are broken ribs and there are broken ribs, just saying Benotti.

Sure. Just saying. His broken ribs were so bad he couldn't race till now. Martin was very silent on twitter in between. No updates about his injuries to say it better than feared. 0. Then up with the front guys on a very tough stage with no serious racing in his legs. That all points to doping. Martin has hardly raced and yet he has form. Just saying.

 

[hrotha]

That also points to that month break being the natural one he was going to do between racing blocks anyways. He did the classics and wasn't going to do the Giro.

 

[Benotti69]

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That also points to that month break being the natural one he was going to do between racing blocks anyways. He did the classics and wasn't going to do the Giro.

Considering he only has Volta A Catalunya and Tirreno Adriatico raced in his legs, It is pretty impressive.

 

[vedrafjord]

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Dan Martin broke 2 ribs at LBL tried to race Tour De Romandie but couldn't due to pain and now is climbing with the best in the sport in his 1st race back a month later?????

How could he train with damaged ribs to be even in any kind of shape to race at such a level. Fractured ribs normally take 6 weeks to heal and that is not while training????

Disagree - I broke a couple of ribs snowboarding a few years ago (only a few km from today's stage finish coincidentally) and was able to cycle no problem when I got home a few days later. Obviously it's very sore and it hinders your breathing a bit but you can kind of lock your ribs in place with your stomach muscles and you're ok. Laughing and sneezing were a lot more painful actually. I was fine about 4 weeks later.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Re: Re:

Dan Martin broke 2 ribs at LBL tried to race Tour De Romandie but couldn't due to pain and now is climbing with the best in the sport in his 1st race back a month later?????

How could he train with damaged ribs to be even in any kind of shape to race at such a level. Fractured ribs normally take 6 weeks to heal and that is not while training????

Disagree - I broke a couple of ribs snowboarding a few years ago (only a few km from today's stage finish coincidentally) and was able to cycle no problem when I got home a few days later. Obviously it's very sore and it hinders your breathing a bit but you can kind of lock your ribs in place with your stomach muscles and you're ok. Laughing and sneezing were a lot more painful actually. I was fine about 4 weeks later.

But you wouldn't be doing anything above aerobic (~Z2) endurance, IMO. And not climbing with any sort of bracing through your arms against the handlebars.

My ribs weren't broken through, just fractured and I couldn't do anything strenuous due to pain from breathing deeply.

I was sht scared of sneezing. Holy crap that brings back memories.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Dan Martin broke 2 ribs at LBL tried to race Tour De Romandie but couldn't due to pain and now is climbing with the best in the sport in his 1st race back a month later?????

How could he train with damaged ribs to be even in any kind of shape to race at such a level. Fractured ribs normally take 6 weeks to heal and that is not while training????

Disagree - I broke a couple of ribs snowboarding a few years ago (only a few km from today's stage finish coincidentally) and was able to cycle no problem when I got home a few days later. Obviously it's very sore and it hinders your breathing a bit but you can kind of lock your ribs in place with your stomach muscles and you're ok. Laughing and sneezing were a lot more painful actually. I was fine about 4 weeks later.

Martin couldn't race LBL! How did he maintain a level of training to be front runner at the Dauphiné......

 

[vedrafjord]

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Martin couldn't race LBL! How did he maintain a level of training to be front runner at the Dauphiné......

I still don't see what's so mutant here - he breaks the ribs on 26 April, then does Romandie from 28 April to 5 May in pain, but he's able to finish all the stages inside the time limit. If he can finish a six day stage race right after breaking his ribs, he should be able to train at a decent intensity in the weeks after that. As it's out of competition, he can take whatever painkillers he wants to take the edge off too. By the time he started the Dauphiné it was seven weeks since LBL.

 

[nayr497]

He looked awful on the stage where it rained and Costa won (6?). That helmet, all the logos on his clothing, ugh. It was as if he was trying to look as terrible as possible. Those POC helmets generally look bad, but look truly awful on smaller guys with small heads.

 

[Benotti69]

Wonder what Dan Martin will say to Ibauguren...............................................

"oooh Doc, i'll have a Gilbert 2011 special please"

 

[Billie]

let's hope his new contract pays him enough to get his teeth done

 

[blackcat]

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let's hope his new contract pays him enough to get his teeth done

that was my joke, even if this is post-facto plagiarism, i will still take offence if people give you credit

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

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let's hope his new contract pays him enough to get his teeth done

that was my joke, even if this is post-facto plagiarism, i will still take offence if people give you credit

I agree, we are both dissappointed he has left Vaughters and his scrambles.

 

[Billie]

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let's hope his new contract pays him enough to get his teeth done

that was my joke, even if this is post-facto plagiarism, i will still take offence if people give you credit

where did you make it? Didn't see it.

 

[proffate]

Re: Re:

Dan Martin broke 2 ribs at LBL tried to race Tour De Romandie but couldn't due to pain and now is climbing with the best in the sport in his 1st race back a month later?????

How could he train with damaged ribs to be even in any kind of shape to race at such a level. Fractured ribs normally take 6 weeks to heal and that is not while training????

Disagree - I broke a couple of ribs snowboarding a few years ago (only a few km from today's stage finish coincidentally) and was able to cycle no problem when I got home a few days later. Obviously it's very sore and it hinders your breathing a bit but you can kind of lock your ribs in place with your stomach muscles and you're ok. Laughing and sneezing were a lot more painful actually. I was fine about 4 weeks later.

But you wouldn't be doing anything above aerobic (~Z2) endurance, IMO. And not climbing with any sort of bracing through your arms against the handlebars.

My ribs weren't broken through, just fractured and I couldn't do anything strenuous due to pain from breathing deeply.

I was sht scared of sneezing. Holy crap that brings back memories.

meh, for me it was painful to sit up from a lying position or sneeze but I could ride (even intensely) as long as I stayed in the saddle.

 

[Jspear]

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let's hope his new contract pays him enough to get his teeth done

that was my joke, even if this is post-facto plagiarism, i will still take offence if people give you credit

I remember when you said it. At the time, I think I said you were mean. Now I'll say your both mean.

 

[blackcat]

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let's hope his new contract pays him enough to get his teeth done

that was my joke, even if this is post-facto plagiarism, i will still take offence if people give you credit

where did you make it? Didn't see it.

prolly one the first pages in this thread, since it is 60 odd pages, might be 24 months back. just do a search for teeth

 

[blackcat]

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where did you make it? Didn't see it.

October last year, page 50

he could get his teeth fixed with the winners check.

just sayin

but you were thinkin

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

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where did you make it? Didn't see it.

October last year, page 50

he could get his teeth fixed with the winners check.

just sayin

but you were thinkin

what an idiot right

who doesn't remember a post from october last year 50 pages into a thread

sheeesh
some people

 

[86TDFWinner]

Re: Re:

Dan Martin broke 2 ribs at Tour De Romandie and now is climbing with the best in the sport in his 1st race back a month later?????

How could he train with damaged ribs to be even in any kind of shape to race at such a level. Fractured ribs normally take 6 weeks to heal and that is not while training????

Amazing how pro cyclists have these super powers..........

vandevelde did it twice, once a broken hip in the Giro, about 2008 i recall, and gets back for the Tour.

= NOT NORMAL

sorry JV, but it aint

LOL

 

[red_flanders]

Broke two ribs surfing and paddled out the next day. Hurts, but for a pro racer? Don't see any reason why he couldn't train, and he did in fact race.

 

[flying_plum]

I'm a bit sketchy on all banned substances...are painkillers on the banned list? Intuitively it would seem like they should be without a TUE, but I can't find anything beyond hardcore painkillers like diamorphine (albeit with a very quick google search as I'm about to leave the office). I'm just thinking about some of the insane injuries motorbike racers race with, but with pain relief...broken ankles, barely-repaired collarbones, only-just-out-of-plaster broken legs...

 

[42x16ss]

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I'm a bit sketchy on all banned substances...are painkillers on the banned list? Intuitively it would seem like they should be without a TUE, but I can't find anything beyond hardcore painkillers like diamorphine (albeit with a very quick google search as I'm about to leave the office). I'm just thinking about some of the insane injuries motorbike racers race with, but with pain relief...broken ankles, barely-repaired collarbones, only-just-out-of-plaster broken legs...

Some very basic painkillers like paracetamol and ibuprofen shouldn't need to be banned and would be necessary to ride through the crashes riders pick up, especially over GT's.

I'd kind of like to see aspirin banned though, its blood thinning quality is useful in certain circumstances

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

Dan Martin broke 2 ribs at LBL tried to race Tour De Romandie but couldn't due to pain and now is climbing with the best in the sport in his 1st race back a month later?????

How could he train with damaged ribs to be even in any kind of shape to race at such a level. Fractured ribs normally take 6 weeks to heal and that is not while training????

Disagree - I broke a couple of ribs snowboarding a few years ago (only a few km from today's stage finish coincidentally) and was able to cycle no problem when I got home a few days later. Obviously it's very sore and it hinders your breathing a bit but you can kind of lock your ribs in place with your stomach muscles and you're ok. Laughing and sneezing were a lot more painful actually. I was fine about 4 weeks later.

But you wouldn't be doing anything above aerobic (~Z2) endurance, IMO. And not climbing with any sort of bracing through your arms against the handlebars.

My ribs weren't broken through, just fractured and I couldn't do anything strenuous due to pain from breathing deeply.

I was sht scared of sneezing. Holy crap that brings back memories.

I broke 3 ribs as a teenager MTBing and went to see "The Castle" a few days later. Michael Caton and Stephen Curry nearly killed me! I had to walk out halfway through the funniest movie I've ever seen I was in so much pain