Darryl Webster

[Race Radio]

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=9207&status=True&catname=Latest News

Pez has an interview with the forums resident former Pro, Darryl Webster

 

[thehog]

Legend & telling it like it is.

 

[Rip:30]

Powerful stuff.

The interviewer's final comment comes off as a bit callous though: "File under 'perhaps Britain's biggest ever waste of talent' - if only we'd had Team Sky in 1987"

Like did you just hear what Darryl was saying about how it was and how it is, in the interview you just gave?

 

[craig1985]

Great stuff RR.

 

[Race Radio]

Pez is rapidly turning into a complete schmutz.

He will defend to the death anything from the Pro Peloton and for God's sake don't dare disagree with him, about anything.

There is a thread going on today over on Serotta where a guy started off by asking about his perception of carbon fragility.

Pez has just about gone freaking ballistic.

I find I can just no longer read anything he writes. Life is too short.

It is not the same guy.

The Pez site is owned and run by Richard Pestes. The guy on the forum is Charles, their tech writer.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I've always regarded Pez as completely worthless with respect to their product reviews. They have nothing to offer other than sheer bootlicking.

 

[BroDeal]

It is not the same guy.

The Pez site is owned and run by Richard Pestes. The guy on the forum is Charles, their tech writer.

Oh, so it is only their tech writer who is a douche. Gotcha.

I loved how he turned a perfectly reasonable question about the fragility of super light carbon that can be flexed with your fingers into an attack on all carbon bikes. It is like he is too stupid to figure out the point of the thread's OP.

 

[blutto]

I've always regarded Pez as completely worthless with respect to their product reviews. They have nothing to offer other than sheer bootlicking.

...way to go...****ing(read urinating) on Darryl's parade that way...forgive me, but I thought this thread was about a very good interview by a classy stand-up guy...can't we just lay off the vitriol for just a few moments...if you really have to get your rocks off go to another thread to get your daily trash quota...

Cheers

blutto

 

[Benotti69]

I'm glad he partakes on this forum and tellingly, mostly in the clinic.

I was a fan and still am.

 

[pmcg76]

Its funny how Daryl's opinions are remarkably similar to many in the clinic but I have seen the clinic posters described as a bunch of loons on another website. Ah, the Koolaid crew.

 

[flyor64]

I thought it was a very good article. Honesty is a nice twist these days.

I would have liked it to be a bit longer...developed some of the narratives Darryl brought up a little further. I wonder if he did just that but it was edited out?

 

[Roland Rat]

I thought it was a very good article. Honesty is a nice twist these days.

I would have liked it to be a bit longer...developed some of the narratives Darryl brought up a little further. I wonder if he did just that but it was edited out?

The full transcript will be leaked to NY Velocity tomorrow.

 

[Moncoutie]

Good read. Didnt know Darryls story, but this interview paints a very good picture of the man. A shame people like him are the minority rather than the majority of the peloton. Particularly liked the comments about his integrity being the most important thing to him, and all the greats being humble.

 

[L'arriviste]

Haven't seen him on here for a while actually. Nice indeed to hear his story.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Its funny how Daryl's opinions are remarkably similar to many in the clinic but I have seen the clinic posters described as a bunch of loons on another website. Ah, the Koolaid crew.

You are so right. At least when it comes to me, cause I don't know who flicker is. There is always a life after cycling, which can be harder than hardest race. I know it, and Darryl knows it.
Can hit dopers or "clean angels" like Darryl.

Darryl Who ?....someone could ask now while watching palmares.

At least I respect this guy and his story and people shouldn't use him just as a tool for "their mission".
Really impressive how Derryl handled life after clean cycling. Everyone should follow his example.
There are people who crash because of dope, some people don't even need dope for that.
If I have a closer look, it was really better for Darryl and his fragility not to make the cut to real pro cycling. His personality was not strong enough for the real circus, even without doping stuff.
Fragile people have problems in pro cycling and in real world out there too.
He who fails inside sports, fails out there in real world too.
Works other way around too.

If I didn't know his story I would have handled him different. Be sure that I would have taken him to side for 5 minutes in a quit room and tell and ask him some things.

Besides that, I enjoyed the interview and some storys as far as it was possible.

At end of day, someone could ask Darryl Who ? What Webster ?.....when people consider him as usual representive for cycling, just because they need him as tool.
Always nice to have "real" cyclists in a forum, but you might be used as a tool in both ways. It always causes you some problems, no matter on which side of the fence you sit.

Darryl's mental fragility was there since he was born and has nothing to with cycling, integrity, dope or the path he (had to) chose. Some people should think about that - because that is the truth.

 

[Race Radio]

Classless troll babble

Give it a rest.

 

[Captain_Cavman]

Haven't seen him on here for a while actually. Nice indeed to hear his story.

It is nice indeed. And good to hear he's in a better place mentally and emotionally.

Nothing like living amongst the Welsh for putting your problems into perspective.

 

[amp300]

Powerful stuff.

The interviewer's final comment comes off as a bit callous though: "File under 'perhaps Britain's biggest ever waste of talent' - if only we'd had Team Sky in 1987"

I actually took that comment differently. I thought it was a slight directed at British cycling not Darryl. As in they failed to nurture and help him grow once he got to the pro level. Maybe I am reaching in that, either way I'm looking forward to reading the whole interview. There seemed to be a lot taken out.

 

[blutto]

You are so right. At least when it comes to me, cause I don't know who flicker is. There is always a life after cycling, which can be harder than hardest race. I know it, and Darryl knows it.
Can hit dopers or "clean angels" like Darryl.

Darryl Who ?....someone could ask now while watching palmares.

At least I respect this guy and his story and people shouldn't use him just as a tool for "their mission".
Really impressive how Derryl handled life after clean cycling. Everyone should follow his example.
There are people who crash because of dope, some people don't even need dope for that.
If I have a closer look, it was really better for Darryl and his fragility not to make the cut to real pro cycling. His personality was not strong enough for the real circus, even without doping stuff.
Fragile people have problems in pro cycling and in real world out there too.
He who fails inside sports, fails out there in real world too.
Works other way around too.

If I didn't know his story I would have handled him different. Be sure that I would have taken him to side for 5 minutes in a quit room and tell and ask him some things.

Besides that, I enjoyed the interview and some storys as far as it was possible.

At end of day, someone could ask Darryl Who ? What Webster ?.....when people consider him as usual representive for cycling, just because they need him as tool.
Always nice to have "real" cyclists in a forum, but you might be used as a tool in both ways. It always causes you some problems, no matter on which side of the fence you sit.

Darryl's mental fragility was there since he was born and has nothing to with cycling, integrity, dope or the path he (had to) chose. Some people should think about that - because that is the truth.

...don't want to start a standard issue CN food fight here but I take strong exception to your characterization of Mr. Webster as being fragile and not being strong enough...having been in a somewhat similar situation, though admittedly on a much much smaller stage, I would say that going the doping route is the much easier way to go ...what Mr. Webster did was the harder road to take and from my perspective and given the potential rewards involved, required some serious strength of character/ high levels of sisu...kudos to Mr. Webster for taking that high road and sticking to it despite the considerable cost ( both psychologically and financially)...

...his is a wonderful story of courage...and so cool that he has landed on his feet and is moving forward in life.....chapeau!...

Cheers

blutto

 

[Moncoutie]

...don't want to start a standard issue CN food fight here but I take strong exception to your characterization of Mr. Webster as being fragile and not being strong enough...having been in a somewhat similar situation, though admittedly on a much much smaller stage, I would say that going the doping route is the much easier way to go ...what Mr. Webster did was the harder road to take and from my perspective and given the potential rewards involved, required some serious strength of character/ high levels of sisu...kudos to Mr. Webster for taking that high road and sticking to it despite the considerable cost ( both psychologically and financially)...

...his is a wonderful story of courage...and so cool that he has landed on his feet and is moving forward in life.....chapeau!...

Cheers

blutto

Couldn't agree more.Thats exactly the way I saw it.

 

[Darryl Webster]

Hi folks. Thank you for your largely possitive comments. I`v been quite overwhelmed by them.
To many I`m a " complicated" kinda bloke...and It`s true many of my personal flaws were cemented in childhood ( a story in its self) but regardless of approprieteness of my personal responce the truth is there is much wrong in elite sport ( as there is many, many areas of our civilisations) and my tail is by no means extraordinery.
There a saying, " the best you can do is all you can do".
I did the best with what I knew.

Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruDxyOebIQM

Villanelle For Our Time lyrics

From bitter searching of the heart,
Quickened with passion and with pain
We rise to play a greater part.
This is the faith from which we start:
Men shall know commonwealth again
From bitter searching of the heart.
We loved the easy and the smart,
But now, with keener hand and brain,
We rise to play a greater part.
The lesser loyalties depart,
And neither race nor creed remain
From bitter searching of the heart.
Not steering by the venal chart
That tricked the mass for private gain,
We rise to play a greater part.
Reshaping narrow law and art
Whose symbols are the millions slain,
From bitter searching of the heart
We rise to play a greater part.

Leonard Cohen.

 

[popolo]

Hi folks. Thank you for your largely possitive comments. I`v been quite overwhelmed by them.
To many I`m a " complicated" kinda bloke...and It`s true many of my personal flaws were cemented in childhood ( a story in its self) but regardless of approprieteness of my personal responce the truth is there is much wrong in elite sport ( as there is many, many areas of our civilisations) and my tail is by no means extraordinery.
There a saying, " the best you can do is all you can do".
I did the best with what I knew.

Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruDxyOebIQM

Villanelle For Our Time lyrics

From bitter searching of the heart,
Quickened with passion and with pain
We rise to play a greater part.
This is the faith from which we start:
Men shall know commonwealth again
From bitter searching of the heart.
We loved the easy and the smart,
But now, with keener hand and brain,
We rise to play a greater part.
The lesser loyalties depart,
And neither race nor creed remain
From bitter searching of the heart.
Not steering by the venal chart
That tricked the mass for private gain,
We rise to play a greater part.
Reshaping narrow law and art
Whose symbols are the millions slain,
From bitter searching of the heart
We rise to play a greater part.

Leonard Cohen.

I'm happy for you that you're in a good place.

I agree with blutto's remarks also.

 

[Cobblestoned]

...don't want to start a standard issue CN food fight here but I take strong exception to your characterization of Mr. Webster as being fragile and not being strong enough...having been in a somewhat similar situation, though admittedly on a much much smaller stage, I would say that going the doping route is the much easier way to go ...what Mr. Webster did was the harder road to take and from my perspective and given the potential rewards involved, required some serious strength of character/ high levels of sisu...kudos to Mr. Webster for taking that high road and sticking to it despite the considerable cost ( both psychologically and financially)...

...his is a wonderful story of courage...and so cool that he has landed on his feet and is moving forward in life.....chapeau!...

Cheers

blutto

Ok, I respect different views.
But then again there are so many people out there choosing the, what you call, "easier way" and getting into mental trouble because of daily fear to be caught or to never wake up again, or become a wreck, losing it all.
Both ways are easier to go with a strong personality. Thats what I am trying to say. Darryl would have also had problems by choosing the other way.
Darryl's story could have been way more wonderful I think and its good that he came over things. At least I hope he did and enjoys his life now.

 

[Hairy Wheels]

Perineum Surgery

HI there, I hope Darryl reads this...just curious about that surgery. I've never heard of anyone having surgery there before. If you're ok with it, it would be great if you could share that experience...condition etc.

Thanks, we're all glad you're doing well. While not as talented as you, I've seen the ugly side of cycling as well. You did the right thing, no question.

 

[BroDeal]

We need an in depth interview like the ones that nyvelocity publishes. I am not even sure if that clown from Pez actually listened to what was said.