Dauphine Route leaked

[MatParker117]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/2013-criterium-du-dauphine-route-leaked-two-new-summit-finishes

Two new mountaintop stage finishes will feature on the 2013 route according to the Dauphiné Libéré, at Valmorel and Super-Devoluy. Other innovations include a start in Switzerland for the first time in the 65-year-old event, as well as the absence of an opening prologue.

The Grand Départ on June 3rd will be in the tiny village of Champéry, the Dauphiné Libéré says. Champery is 20 kilometres to the south-west the UCI’s headquarters at Aigle and guarantees, thanks to its location, a hilly opening stage. Two sprint stages taking the race back into France then follow, with an individual time trial on the Wednesday, around 30 kilometres long - which is similar to those of the 2013 Tour (32 and 33 kilometres long) - acting as the usual mid-week watershed.

New mountain top finish number one is on the Thursday, at the ski station of Valmorel in the centre of the French Alps, a 14.6 kilometre climb with few changes of gradient from its average of 6.4 percent, making it a relatively steady and not overly decisive uphill slog. Then on the Friday comes a stage between La Lechere and Grenoble that could take in either the Chartreuse mountains, the Madeleine or the Balcons de Belledonne.

The second mountain top finish will be on Saturday June 8th at Super-Devoluy, another new summit for the race, this time in the southern Alps. The notoriously steep Côte de Laffrey and the steadier, but longer, Col du Noyer, which both featured on an epic stage in the 1971 Tour won by Luis Ocaña, are both likely to feature, according to the newspaper. A final mountainous stage on June 9th will run from Sisteron to Risoul.

Contador or Froome for the GC then.

 

[LaFlorecita]

30 km tt is too long for a 1 week stage race but the rest sounds nice

 

[rghysens]

30 km tt is too long for a 1 week stage race but the rest sounds nice

Not if there are at least 2 proper mountain stages and 1 proper hilly stage (doesn't have to be like the one we saw in T/A, but the kind that can create gaps of 10-15 seconds between the contenders).

 

[Netserk]

30km of ITT is just perfect for Dauphine. Especially as there is no prologue.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I always like to think, how much time can the top tter among the gc men (Froome in this case) gain on the bad tters (like Pinot) in the tt? In this case I believe 3'30" - 4'00. Can the bad tters win this time back in the mountains? Assuming they might be given some leeway I'd say max 2'00 so not enough So the bad tters can't even come close

 

[Netserk]

I always like to think, how much time can the top tter among the gc men (Froome in this case) gain on the bad tters (like Pinot) in the tt? In this case I believe 3'30" - 4'00. Can the bad tters win this time back in the mountains? Assuming they might be given some leeway I'd say max 2'00 so not enough So the bad tters can't even come close

Who will do best in the GC, Tony Martin of Pinot?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Who will do best in the GC, Tony Martin of Pinot?

Pinot. Don't really see your point. Martin isn't a good climber. I was obviously talking about tt skills among the gc men

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I always like to think, how much time can the top tter among the gc men (Froome in this case) gain on the bad tters (like Pinot) in the tt? In this case I believe 3'30" - 4'00. Can the bad tters win this time back in the mountains? Assuming they might be given some leeway I'd say max 2'00 so not enough So the bad tters can't even come close

Sounds to me like young Pinot needs to spend some more time in the windtunnel.
Losing 3 minutes in a 30km TT will never give him a big win.

 

[Netserk]

Pinot. Don't really see your point. Martin isn't a good climber. I was obviously talking about tt skills among the gc men

And Pinot isn't a good TTer.

Neither Pinot nor Martin is a GC man

 

[LaFlorecita]

Sounds to me like young Pinot needs to spend some more time in the windtunnel.
Losing 3 minutes in a 30km TT will never give him a big win.

I don't know, sometimes a rider just can't do it, look at Andy. I don't believe he never trained his tt

 

[LaFlorecita]

And Pinot isn't a good TTer.

Neither Pinot nor Martin is a GC man

Yet he finished top 10 in TDF with over 100km of tt. So if there is less tt he will do even better

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I don't know, sometimes a rider just can't do it, look at Andy. I don't believe he never trained his tt

dunno about Schleck, but if Pinot wants to increase his chance of winning these type of races, he needs to improve his TT'ing.

Just like Sir Wiggo needed to work on his climbing skills.

 

[Gloin22]

30km ITT is perfect for Dauhpine.

From those leaks looks like nice route.

 

[LaFlorecita]

30km ITT is perfect for Dauhpine.

From those leaks looks like nice route.

What time gaps do you expect between the gc contenders in a 30 km tt?

I agree with Dazed and Confused but it is easier said than done

 

[Winterfold]

If you want to win GC you MUST be capable of a good TT IMO. Else you are just a climber and a GC winner must have all round skills, not be a specialist.

It is the race of truth, if you suck in TT, you suck.

If you can climb, by definition you have W/kg and therefore can do a good TT if you work on position and technique.

30km is good - last two years 10-15km too much TT.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I agree 40-50km is definitely too much but 30 also I think. But I am not sure. I think it is too much especially since it will be really tight in the mountains unless Froome improves a lot

 

[uphillstruggle]

30km of ITT is just perfect for Dauphine. Especially as there is no prologue.

Would tend to agree. Don't know much about the summit finishes but if they are reasonable this is the most balanced Dauphine route for a while.

 

[Red Rick]

Depends, is Valmorel preceded by Rosael?

 

[uphillstruggle]

I don't know, sometimes a rider just can't do it, look at Andy. I don't believe he never trained his tt

Andy obviously has the power in his legs but his position is awful. I guess some people can produce the power in an aero position.

 

[roundabout]

It depends on the remaining climbs whether 30k is too much or too little.

 

[Netserk]

Yet he finished top 10 in TDF with over 100km of tt. So if there is less tt he will do even better

Does that mean Bettini was a GC rider?

 

[roundabout]

Bettini won a ton of time on the stage to Asiago.

He did climb shockingly well after, but Pinot climbed better.

 

[Winterfold]

I think Andy lacks the application needed to do this, it is not like these guys totally suck and would get beaten by a decent club TTer, even the bad pro tour guys still do 48kph - the attention to detail need to go from there to 50+ kph I bet is really boring.

If you want to show you are the best allrounder though it must be done, just climbing alone - well there is jersey for that.

 

[McLovin]

Bettini won a ton of time on the stage to Asiago.

He did climb shockingly well after, but Pinot climbed better.

Because of ''winning a ton of time on stage to Asiago" effect. It works just like "maillot jaune" effect. Gives you extra unseen before power.

 

[myrideissteelerthanyours]

i thought GT TT result was all about recovery or are you guys just talking about dauphine