Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

[Benotti69]

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FWIW I think Brailsford's words give a clue as to what has gone on behind the scenes with Froome's AAF and reactions to it from stakeholders. There is clearly a huge amount of vitriol.

Quite like McQuaid popping up to warn Brailsford to remember the Jiffybag. The message behind that is clear.

I’ve no idea of any behind the scenes vitriol or battles between Brailsford and the UCI. Brailsford comes across as an arrogant bully. Is he really putting the elected UCI President in his place on the eve of the Tour de France?

FWIW, if this represents a paradigm shift in Sky’s PR platform and they will now own their Evil Empire persona then I am all for it. That would add to the spectacle in a very entertaining way. Maybe hire Brock Lesnar as Froome’s bodyguard. But if Brailsford’s comments are simply rantings from a shady egomaniac then that dude has some serious issues.

Shades of Lance’s “has a lot to learn” tweet on Contador. That didn’t end up too well for LA. Same here for SDB, he is getting way to agressive especially when given a get out of jail free card.

SDB doing too many roids.

 

[thehog]

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FWIW I think Brailsford's words give a clue as to what has gone on behind the scenes with Froome's AAF and reactions to it from stakeholders. There is clearly a huge amount of vitriol.

Quite like McQuaid popping up to warn Brailsford to remember the Jiffybag. The message behind that is clear.

I’ve no idea of any behind the scenes vitriol or battles between Brailsford and the UCI. Brailsford comes across as an arrogant bully. Is he really putting the elected UCI President in his place on the eve of the Tour de France?

FWIW, if this represents a paradigm shift in Sky’s PR platform and they will now own their Evil Empire persona then I am all for it. That would add to the spectacle in a very entertaining way. Maybe hire Brock Lesnar as Froome’s bodyguard. But if Brailsford’s comments are simply rantings from a shady egomaniac then that dude has some serious issues.

Shades of Lance’s “has a lot to learn” tweet on Contador. That didn’t end up too well for LA. Same here for SDB, he is getting way to agressive especially when given a get out of jail free card.

SDB doing too many roids.

I did think of that.... sounds like it

 

[macbindle]

Nah. Brailsford has just won, and he's rubbing Lappy's nose in it.

 

[samhocking]

Each day it's becoming clearer what has happened that's for sure.

 

[Nighttrain99]

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Each day it's becoming clearer what has happened that's for sure.

What has happened? If Brailsford has dirt on Lappertient as you say and Froome skated on an PED offense then it will be simple to connect the dots. Otherwise Brailsford is an arrogant bully using a public platform to degrade the president of the UCI. This Brailsford guy is some character. I need to pay more attention to him and his antics.

 

[Benotti69]

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Nah. Brailsford has just won, and he's rubbing Lappy's nose in it.

Just what Bruyneel was thinking.......

 

[thehog]

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Nah. Brailsford has just won, and he's rubbing Lappy's nose in it.

Nah. Didn't Brailsford leak the Yates postive to take heat off the then Sutton scandal? Brailsford is running scared because he doesn’t have a Cookie to overlook Skys behaviour. Lappy has got an entire database of Sky BS to keep them under control and Brailsford knows it.

 

[samhocking]

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Each day it's becoming clearer what has happened that's for sure.

What has happened? If Brailsford has dirt on Lappertient as you say and Froome skated on an PED offense then it will be simple to connect the dots. Otherwise Brailsford is an arrogant bully using a public platform to degrade the president of the UCI. This Brailsford guy is some character. I need to pay more attention to him and his antics.

This has nothing to do with doping. That's just a side show to what's really going on here. The real story is far more sinister I feel.

 

[thehog]

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Each day it's becoming clearer what has happened that's for sure.

What has happened? If Brailsford has dirt on Lappertient as you say and Froome skated on an PED offense then it will be simple to connect the dots. Otherwise Brailsford is an arrogant bully using a public platform to degrade the president of the UCI. This Brailsford guy is some character. I need to pay more attention to him and his antics.

This has nothing to do with doping. That's just a side show to what's really going on here. The real story is far more sinister I feel.

Lol! The only thing that is sinister is Brailsford and his bullying. It’s pure and simple for all to see

 

[samhocking]

I don't think so. This is not about about Brailsford.

 

[thehog]

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I don't think so. This is not about about Brailsford.

It’s always about Brailsford. Brailsford is a an ego machine. Always has been, we saw his bullying and methods and British Cycling and that continues today, only now he’s not getting his own way hence the aggression.

 

[aphronesis]

One doesn’t have to buy every Sky conspiracy floated (although it takes effort to swallow the recent turn), but it there’s a healthy imagination in believing that SDB is just a nice guy venting at some professional oversight.

 

[thehog]

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One doesn’t have to buy every Sky conspiracy floated (although it takes effort to swallow the recent turn), but it there’s a healthy imagination in believing that SDB is just a nice guy venting at some professional oversight.

SDB was covering for the fact that he doesn’t want to release the reasoned decision, so he went on the attack. Fairly simple stuff from the velodrome bully. Brailsford should put up or shut up.

 

[Nighttrain99]

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Each day it's becoming clearer what has happened that's for sure.

What has happened? If Brailsford has dirt on Lappertient as you say and Froome skated on an PED offense then it will be simple to connect the dots. Otherwise Brailsford is an arrogant bully using a public platform to degrade the president of the UCI. This Brailsford guy is some character. I need to pay more attention to him and his antics.

This has nothing to do with doping. That's just a side show to what's really going on here. The real story is far more sinister I feel.

Ok, thanks. I apologize if it’s inappropriate to ask but how do you know of this information that is yet to be released? Are you just joking around or do you have the kind of ties to the Sky organization that would be necessary for such knowledge?

 

[macbindle]

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Nah. Brailsford has just won, and he's rubbing Lappy's nose in it.

Nah. Didn't Brailsford leak the Yates postive to take heat off the then Sutton scandal? Brailsford is running scared because he doesn’t have a Cookie to overlook Skys behaviour. Lappy has got an entire database of Sky BS to keep them under control and Brailsford knows it.

Oh right. So this is what Sky being kept under control looks like? Right.

 

[aphronesis]

What would Sky being kept in control look like? Libertine’s posts’ dealt with the presentational aspects of what might be credibly sport ( for some), this gets to the flipside of that: the power mechanisms.

 

[yaco]

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Nah. Brailsford has just won, and he's rubbing Lappy's nose in it.

Nah. Didn't Brailsford leak the Yates postive to take heat off the then Sutton scandal? Brailsford is running scared because he doesn’t have a Cookie to overlook Skys behaviour. Lappy has got an entire database of Sky BS to keep them under control and Brailsford knows it.

Think that leak came from British Cycling - Though Brailsford could have been the messenger.

 

[samhocking]

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Each day it's becoming clearer what has happened that's for sure.

What has happened? If Brailsford has dirt on Lappertient as you say and Froome skated on an PED offense then it will be simple to connect the dots. Otherwise Brailsford is an arrogant bully using a public platform to degrade the president of the UCI. This Brailsford guy is some character. I need to pay more attention to him and his antics.

This has nothing to do with doping. That's just a side show to what's really going on here. The real story is far more sinister I feel.

Ok, thanks. I apologize if it’s inappropriate to ask but how do you know of this information that is yet to be released? Are you just joking around or do you have the kind of ties to the Sky organization that would be necessary for such knowledge?

I'm not going to say directly in the clinic because there's never any balanced discussion, but in terms of Brailsford's anger, consider the following statements all said within context of Froome's exoneration from Lappartient.

Lappartient on Ulissi and Pettachi ADRVs
"I must emphasise that each of the relevant athletes had access to a fair hearing as provided for by the WADA Code and the UCI ADR."

Lappartient on UCI's anti-doping credibility generally:
"Everyone will have the same treatment, for sure. In the UCI there are no exceptions, everyone gets the same treatment," Lappartient insisted.

Lappartient on Froome's exoneration provided for by the WADA Code and the UCI ADR
"If you have more money, you can afford more lawyers and more experts. This can sometimes help you to prove you are not guilty"

That is what Brailsford is angry about and if that's not town mayor bias, what is, regardless of Brailsford's numptyness. Lappartients handing is not impartial and his comments make UCI look weak and complacent and unfocused on what exactly they are meant to be and how Lappartient should rise above personal bias.

 

[bambino]

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Each day it's becoming clearer what has happened that's for sure.

What has happened? If Brailsford has dirt on Lappertient as you say and Froome skated on an PED offense then it will be simple to connect the dots. Otherwise Brailsford is an arrogant bully using a public platform to degrade the president of the UCI. This Brailsford guy is some character. I need to pay more attention to him and his antics.

This has nothing to do with doping. That's just a side show to what's really going on here. The real story is far more sinister I feel.

Ok, thanks. I apologize if it’s inappropriate to ask but how do you know of this information that is yet to be released? Are you just joking around or do you have the kind of ties to the Sky organization that would be necessary for such knowledge?

I'm not going to say directly in the clinic because there's never any balanced discussion, but in terms of Brailsford's anger, consider the following statements all said within context of Froome's exoneration from Lappartient.

Lappartient on Ulissi and Pettachi ADRVs
"I must emphasise that each of the relevant athletes had access to a fair hearing as provided for by the WADA Code and the UCI ADR."

Lappartient on UCI's anti-doping credibility generally:
"Everyone will have the same treatment, for sure. In the UCI there are no exceptions, everyone gets the same treatment," Lappartient insisted.

Lappartient on Froome's exoneration provided for by the WADA Code and the UCI ADR
"If you have more money, you can afford more lawyers and more experts. This can sometimes help you to prove you are not guilty"

That is what Brailsford is angry about and if that's not town mayor bias, what is, regardless of Brailsford's numptyness. Lappartients handing is not impartial and his comments make UCI look weak and complacent and unfocused on what exactly they are meant to be and how Lappartient should rise above personal bias.

You are responding to why SDB might be angry and releasing such statement about Lappartient. But you do not answer the original 2 questions of a) how do you know there is going to be dirt coming from SDB after TdF and b) what is that dirt about. Linking what Lappartient has said publically does not answer the original questions.

 

[samhocking]

I gave my reason above.

 

[bambino]

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I gave my reason above.

Well in that case you are really throwing assumptions out of your head.

 

[samhocking]

Lets just say Froome's AAF was seen as an opportunity and Lappartient's & Vaughters recent comments on who leaked and didn't leak it suggests there is most definitely dirt. This has nothing to do with anti-doping or exposing truth within Sky/UCI that's for sure.

 

[Mamil]

Lappartient on Froome's exoneration provided for by the WADA Code and the UCI ADR
"If you have more money, you can afford more lawyers and more experts. This can sometimes help you to prove you are not guilty"


This is 100% true, not just in this case or in cycling generally but in many walks of life. If the good Sir is angry simply because Lappy dared to speak the truth, then tough. Sky, and SBD in particular, are that worst of all competitors - sore winners.

 

[thehog]

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Lets just say Froome's AAF was seen as an opportunity and Lappartient's & Vaughters recent comments on who leaked and didn't leak it suggests there is most definitely dirt. This has nothing to do with anti-doping or exposing truth within Sky/UCI that's for sure.

No, you’re just making stuff up again, pretending to know some “sinister” back story about Lappartient. Very poor, Sam, very poor.

 

[bambino]

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Lets just say Froome's AAF was seen as an opportunity and Lappartient's & Vaughters recent comments on who leaked and didn't leak it suggests there is most definitely dirt. This has nothing to do with anti-doping or exposing truth within Sky/UCI that's for sure.

Oh so it isn't about Lappies comments about fair treatment as 20 minutes ago? It is about the leak comments suddenly. Keep on throwing, you're doing fine.