Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

[samhocking]

Lappartients bias comments are simply him justifying the fallout of what is actually going on, that's all that is about.

 

[thehog]

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Lappartients bias comments are simply him justifying the fallout of what is actually going on, that's all that is about.

And the fact that Brailsford and Sky refuse to allow the release of the reasoned decision #deflectiondave

 

[samhocking]

That's just UCI protecting themselves from their own stupidity spending $220K fighting this for 9 months, when it clearly took WADA less than 2-3 weeks to go through the whole of Froome's & UCI's documents and make a decision.

 

[bambino]

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Lappartients bias comments are simply him justifying the fallout of what is actually going on, that's all that is about.

And once again... what is actually going on? And how do you know what is going on behind the scenes?

 

[samhocking]

I work for Sky remember

 

[bambino]

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That's just UCI protecting themselves from their own stupidity spending $220K fighting this for 9 months, when it clearly took WADA less than 2-3 weeks to go through the whole of Froome's & UCI's documents and make a decision.

WADA backed up because they didn't have money to fund the legal cases Morgan was putting against them in case of other decision.

Somewhat I even agree WADA's decision to do that as that money will help them catch many more cheaters, but it makes me quite sad. And Lappies comment goes towards same direction.

 

[bambino]

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I work for Sky remember

Alright . And the second question?

 

[samhocking]

Froome's case reached the decision UCI would have known all along. It's not about money on Froome's side. If Froome was legally and scientifically guilty, there would be nothing preventing WADA supporting UCI. Lappartient switched that into Froome is guilty, he just escape because of money. As Armstrong said, that's complete nonsense, even he couldn't out-lawyer WADA.

 

[thehog]

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I work for Sky remember

Judging by your general lack of understanding of cycling and the Froome case that is probably true

 

[veganrob]

I hope Sam is spending as much time on his concrete business as he is protecting Team Sky.

 

[gillan1969]

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Froome's case reached the decision UCI would have known all along. It's not about money on Froome's side. If Froome was legally and scientifically guilty, there would be nothing preventing WADA supporting UCI. Lappartient switched that into Froome is guilty, he just escape because of money. As Armstrong said, that's complete nonsense, even he couldn't out-lawyer WADA.

But WADA didn't support UCI even when there was every reason to...including...er...their own rules

they bent over backwards to save him

We may therefore speculate as to why they did that, be it politics, be it lawyers be it ....etc etc

However, without transparency, all we are left with is such speculation...........

 

[pastronef]

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I hope Sam is spending as much time on his concrete business as he is protecting Team Sky.

Sam and Hog are very busy on here lately
banter and fun
but Sky won´t be saved or busted by twitter/clinic though

 

[samhocking]

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I hope Sam is spending as much time on his concrete business as he is protecting Team Sky.

Thanks for your concerns, I do just fine thanks, time goes fast here waiting for concrete to cure, i'm being paid still : )

 

[thehog]

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I hope Sam is spending as much time on his concrete business as he is protecting Team Sky.

Sam and Hog are very busy on here lately
banter and fun
but Sky won´t be saved or busted by twitter/clinic though

Sam beats me because he manages to post in the CN comments section Twitter all at the same time

 

[samhocking]

Plenty of good software out there to do it hog

 

[samhocking]

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Froome's case reached the decision UCI would have known all along. It's not about money on Froome's side. If Froome was legally and scientifically guilty, there would be nothing preventing WADA supporting UCI. Lappartient switched that into Froome is guilty, he just escape because of money. As Armstrong said, that's complete nonsense, even he couldn't out-lawyer WADA.

But WADA didn't support UCI even when there was every reason to...including...er...their own rules

they bent over backwards to save him

We may therefore speculate as to why they did that, be it politics, be it lawyers be it ....etc etc

However, without transparency, all we are left with is such speculation...........

You're believing the leak was done for the intention of the good of the sport, or anti-doping. Lets put it this way, what two characters both popped up within an hour of Guardians story with Brailsford huh? One 100% sure Froome was guilty when leaked and then supporting Lappartient basically saying that Froomes money buys guilty Froome innocence once exonerated and after Brailsford comments. Then the other telling the first to stop pouring oil on the fire?

 

[thehog]

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Froome's case reached the decision UCI would have known all along. It's not about money on Froome's side. If Froome was legally and scientifically guilty, there would be nothing preventing WADA supporting UCI. Lappartient switched that into Froome is guilty, he just escape because of money. As Armstrong said, that's complete nonsense, even he couldn't out-lawyer WADA.

But WADA didn't support UCI even when there was every reason to...including...er...their own rules

they bent over backwards to save him

We may therefore speculate as to why they did that, be it politics, be it lawyers be it ....etc etc

However, without transparency, all we are left with is such speculation...........

You're believing the leak was done for the intention of the good of the sport, or anti-doping. Lets put it this way, what two characters both popped up within an hour of Guardians story with Brailsford huh?

Because LeMonde & the Guardian called Sky before releasing the story asking for comment. They also called the UCI. Sky best the story with their press release revealing the amount of Salbutamol in Froome’s system.

Please do not attempt to rewrite history.

 

[thehog]

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Plenty of good software out there to do it hog

I prefer authenticity over automation

 

[Benotti69]

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I hope Sam is spending as much time on his concrete business as he is protecting Team Sky.

Probably building the bunker for Brailsford in preparation for when brown things hit the fan.

 

[thehog]

Classy from Lappartient:

“I don’t especially want to respond to him, but I will say for that the last person who called me a ‘Breton mayor,’ it didn’t bring him luck. That was Brian Cookson“

By insulting me as a mayor, he is insulting the 35,000 French mayors and the French in general. I don’t know what he is looking to do with that,” Lappartient told Le Parisien. “When you are arrogant, one day or another, there is always somebody who humbles you.”

http://www.leparisien.fr/sports/cyclisme/tour-de-france-pour-lappartient-brailsford-insulte-les-35000-maires-francais-09-07-2018-7813740.php

 

[samhocking]

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Plenty of good software out there to do it hog

I prefer authenticity over automation

Unfortunately it's not that clever, I just speak and it types is what I meat

 

[samhocking]

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Froome's case reached the decision UCI would have known all along. It's not about money on Froome's side. If Froome was legally and scientifically guilty, there would be nothing preventing WADA supporting UCI. Lappartient switched that into Froome is guilty, he just escape because of money. As Armstrong said, that's complete nonsense, even he couldn't out-lawyer WADA.

But WADA didn't support UCI even when there was every reason to...including...er...their own rules

they bent over backwards to save him

We may therefore speculate as to why they did that, be it politics, be it lawyers be it ....etc etc

However, without transparency, all we are left with is such speculation...........

You're believing the leak was done for the intention of the good of the sport, or anti-doping. Lets put it this way, what two characters both popped up within an hour of Guardians story with Brailsford huh?

Because LeMonde & the Guardian called Sky before releasing the story asking for comment. They also called the UCI. Sky best the story with their press release revealing the amount of Salbutamol in Froome’s system.

Please do not attempt to rewrite history.

So UCI went against WADA protocol then? I don't remember the Guardian story saying they confirmed with UCI? They confirmed with Sky and Sky press released while Guardian & LeMonde re-legaled their story.

 

[thehog]

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Plenty of good software out there to do it hog

I prefer authenticity over automation

Unfortunately it's not that clever, I just speak and it types is what I meat

Sorry, no idea what you are taking about.

 

[samhocking]

Voice keyboards, what else?

 

[thehog]

CN now has the Brailsford slap down from Lappartient:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lappartient-the-last-one-who-called-me-a-breton-mayor-didnt-have-any-luck/