Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

[Dear Wiggo]

Pretty soon the marginal gains are going to be so marginal that you cannot even measure them!

Dave.

Maybe you can water the marginal gains down a million times till only the memory of marginal gains is in the water molecules?

Then drink the water.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Wake me up when you have witnesses to DB doping cyclists, other than that there is nothing to debate that will change anyone's mind.

The return of demands for proof.

What are we waiting for exactly? Is BC going to turn Froome positive? Maybe Wiggo goes positive JUST before Rio? Is the UCI will turn some Sky boys positive when Zorzoli stops handing out Emergency TUEs?

Will we have to wait until Cookson has one foot in the election grave before Sky's doping story breaks? Does that sound familar? It just happened at the IAAF.

 

[del1962]

The return of demands for proof.

What are we waiting for exactly? Is BC going to turn Froome positive? Maybe Wiggo goes positive JUST before Rio? Is the UCI will turn some Sky boys positive when Zorzoli stops handing out Emergency TUEs?

Will we have to wait until Cookson has one foot in the election grave before Sky's doping story breaks? Does that sound familar? It just happened at the IAAF.

I am sorry if it upsets you if I want some real world evidence before I decree someone a doper.

 

[blackcat]

I am sorry if it upsets you if I want some real world evidence before I decree someone a doper.

cycling

cycling with wheels. = evidence.

 

[Granville57]

cycling with wheels. = evidence.

Behold, a clean rider!

 

[thehog]

Behold, a clean rider!

Cleans, I tell you, cleans!

 

[blackcat]

Behold, a clean rider!

thats millar.


i rest my case

=/= clean


#FAIL

 

[blackcat]

thats millar.


i rest my case

=/= clean


#FAIL

Millar does #BeatsbyDrDre = #doubleFAIL

 

[wrinklyvet]

I am sorry if it upsets you if I want some real world evidence before I decree someone a doper.

Well said. You are bold to stand against the prevailing view in an inhospitable environment.

 

[red_flanders]

I am sorry if it upsets you if I want some real world evidence before I decree someone a doper.

What's real world evidence? Or do you mean proof, not evidence. They often seem to get conflated in these discussions.

 

[thehog]

Millar does #BeatsbyDrDre = #doubleFAIL

60k for consulting on the Lance film. Anti-doping marketing PR pays.

 

[Granville57]

Millar does #BeatsbyDrDre = #doubleFAIL

But lack of wheels = ?

 

[del1962]

What's real world evidence? Or do you mean proof, not evidence. They often seem to get conflated in these discussions.

Look I am not interested in discussing what often gets pupported as evidence on hear, I have heard it many times and most of it leaves me cold. The only real thing is the employment of Leinders which can be interpreted a few ways and has been discussed to death. Now if something new comes to light then it is worthy of a discussion ok.

 

[blackcat]

Look I am not interested in discussing what often gets pupported as evidence on hear, I have heard it many times and most of it leaves me cold. The only real thing is the employment of Leinders which can be interpreted a few ways and has been discussed to death. Now if something new comes to light then it is worthy of a discussion ok.

yeah, you're not interested in spelling neither.

but thats ok, you are british, and you speak english. you get a pass and a concession to get out of jail free.

 

[ray j willings]

I am sorry if it upsets you if I want some real world evidence before I decree someone a doper.

So you thought Lance was clean until he confessed/ busted.?How about Vino?
How about Hamilton? What about Chicken? all clean in your eyes until they got busted? It's not hard to see.
One more , did you think the line up for the 100m final at the Summer Olympics in Seoul was clean

 

[blackcat]

60k for consulting on the Lance film. Anti-doping marketing PR pays.

that will just be good use for dollar bills to tip with Lance at Yellow Rose

 

[del1962]

So you thought Lance was clean until he confessed/ busted.?How about Vino?
How about Hamilton? What about Chicken? all clean in your eyes until they got busted? It's not hard to see.
One more , did you think the line up for the 100m final at the Summer Olympics in Seoul was clean

Again building a straw man for what I said, nvm

 

[bobbins]

Look I am not interested in discussing what often gets pupported as evidence on hear, I have heard it many times and most of it leaves me cold. The only real thing is the employment of Leinders which can be interpreted a few ways and has been discussed to death. Now if something new comes to light then it is worthy of a discussion ok.

There's evidence out there. Go find some. Speak to people in the team. Speak to people close to the team. I've heard first hand what's going on. It's not hard to find out.

 

[Benotti69]

Look I am not interested in discussing what often gets pupported as evidence on hear, I have heard it many times and most of it leaves me cold. The only real thing is the employment of Leinders which can be interpreted a few ways and has been discussed to death. Now if something new comes to light then it is worthy of a discussion ok.

This is an admission of trolling.

 

[blackcat]

This is an admission of trolling.

and spelling

 

[the sceptic]

This is an admission of trolling.

del probably believes his own trolling at this point so I wouldn't waste time arguing with him.

 

[ray j willings]

Again building a straw man for what I said, nvm

I made some really nice Pizza today from scratch, yummy.

 

[The Hitch]

Look I am not interested in discussing what often gets pupported as evidence on hear, I have heard it many times and most of it leaves me cold. The only real thing is the employment of Leinders which can be interpreted a few ways and has been discussed to death. Now if something new comes to light then it is worthy of a discussion ok.

Oh. I must have missed you explain how froome could have had bilharzia disappear from his system for the 2011 vuelta then reappear a few weeks later.

The tropical disease experts were pretty clear that this is scientifically impossible but your above post acting like this has been dealt with suggests you have found an explanation.

Care to share it with us?

 

[thehog]

There's evidence out there. Go find some. Speak to people in the team. Speak to people close to the team. I've heard first hand what's going on. It's not hard to find out.

Agreed.

Additionally considering the mass amount of cover ups, suppression, and avoidance schemes deployed by the various federations and governing bodies, it's a wonder how anyone would ever test positive. Not unless the governing body wanted them to...

 

[del1962]

This is an admission of trolling.

This is the second time in this thread you have accused me of trolling, why don't you ignore me or **** off down the hole you came from, you sad little man

Oh and if there are any mods aroiund, why don't you deal with these accuastions and other harrasment against me by theHiig and Blackcat too, because as far as I can see you (the mods) are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.