Del Moral denies USPS doping

[BikeCentric]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/08/25/sports/s133806D06.DTL

"I never saw any such things." LOL.

 

[Race Radio]

 

[Oldman]

I love this. The guy quoted Sgt Schultz, mentions two "other doctors" and then scrambles for the door...
He never said there wasn't a program, just not one he could "see".

 

[S2Sturges]

You wouldn't expect that he'd spill his guts, would you? He might end up in bits, stuffed into bin liners and scattered all over town...
Keep repeating the mantra, I saw nothing, I saw nothing........

 

[powerste]

Kinda like Jonkers...another person not named by Floyd says he hasn't seen anything.

 

[Hugh Januss]

I love this. The guy quoted Sgt Schultz, mentions two "other doctors" and then scrambles for the door...
He never said there wasn't a program, just not one he could "see".

Yeah. Ask those other guys, I have to go home and wash my cat now.

 

[flicker]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/08/25/sports/s133806D06.DTL

"I never saw any such things." LOL.

Doctor should have his license lifted. Utter rubish!

 

[Parrot23]

"The Spaniard indicated that he would co-operate with US investigators, although he could not violate patient confidentiality."

Baloney!

George H., etc., ate bagels for breakfast. "No comment", he'd say. (It was part of the "medical" treatment regimen, LOL).

No "patient" confidentiality for folks who aren't patients by any stretch of the imagination, and if "doctors" are breaking the law, knowingly distributing prohibited substances, engaging in prohibited medical practices in sport (per WADA) etc.

Medical disbarment for profiteering "doctors" on the take from dirty teams. "Discover that!"

 

[alanshearer]

Kinda like Jonkers...another person not named by Floyd says he hasn't seen anything.

Seems all part of an orchestrated PR effort. I suspect we'll see a similar story about once a week. Most, like Jonkers and del Moral really won't be saying anything, but their statements will still be dressed up and packaged as if it were something significant. It wouldn't surprise me if every once in a while they bring someone forward who carries more weight.

 

[Kennf1]

I'll see your Del Moral, and raise you with a Prentice Steffen.

 

[Digger]

I am a bit worried to be honest. I may need legal advice from people on here. I didn't see Lance doping either. Does this mean I could be called to testify on his behalf?

 

[psychlist]

Seems all part of an orchestrated PR effort. I suspect we'll see a similar story about once a week. Most, like Jonkers and del Moral really won't be saying anything, but their statements will still be dressed up and packaged as if it were something significant. It wouldn't surprise me if every once in a while they bring someone forward who carries more weight.

Correct me if I am wrong, but has anyone who has come forward to defend Armstrong in the past month or so been an American citizen? Easy to make claims when you are not in the US and subject to a subpoena by the Novitsky grand jury.

 

[Barrus]

Did anyone expect anything different. Really would someone expect him to come out like;

Yeah, there was doping on US Postal. I gave each and every rider their morning shot of epo, methamphetamines, testosterone, HGH and coke. I did it all, I provided it as well.

Whether the Landis story is true or not, whether Del Moral was part of it, or not. There is no way he would say anything other than a blanket denial, he has far too much to lose

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Moral's neck is about as far stretched out on the chopping block as anyone in this. He, Lim, JB, Weisel, Stapleton, Och and somewhat LA, perhaps Michael Ball, plus a few more in management and medical staff, are in positions to take huge falls from this. And I'd venture to guess this is who investigators are going to really try to drop the guillotine on.

We write threads on how much little fish like DZ or Hamilton will or won't talk, but they are likely a very small portion of the seriousness of the investigation compared to the people listed above.

 

[Lajeretta4Ever]

Liar, liar pants on fire

Guys who are still in denial should read this enlightening story about Pete Rose and how he now regrets not coming clean when the gambling revelation came down.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=howard/100826

 

[fatandfast]

I am a bit worried to be honest. I may need legal advice from people on here. I didn't see Lance doping either. Does this mean I could be called to testify on his behalf?

I would keep your calender open if I were you They have asked Papp,Parkin and Lemond about Lance's state of mind so it's not to far fetched that our government may solicit your opinion. Plus keep in mind that they are starting to go after people that lie in congress so we will all have jury duty soon. If we have learned anything about justice it's that all those times Landis swore to tell the truth didn't count..those were just practice. Now that he is penniless he means what he says. I can't wait to see Landis on the stand and they ask about his character..When the Armstrong legal team present all those blood and urine tests that came back negative Landis will yell out"those don't count I saw him in a bus and we ran red lights in Texas!!"

 

[hrotha]

I would keep your calender open if I were you They have asked Papp,Parkin and Lemond about Lance's state of mind so it's not to far fetched that our government may solicit your opinion. Plus keep in mind that they are starting to go after people that lie in congress so we will all have jury duty soon. If we have learned anything about justice it's that all those times Landis swore to tell the truth didn't count..those were just practice. Now that he is penniless he means what he says. I can't wait to see Landis on the stand and they ask about his character..When the Armstrong legal team present all those blood and urine tests that came back negative Landis will yell out"those don't count I saw him in a bus and we ran red lights in Texas!!"

The beauty of this case is that if everything goes according to plan they won't need Landis at all.

 

[hfer07]

but in all fairness & according to his own statement, he could be right- he couldn't have seen anything, since LA & Co were doping inside the bus, while he was outside with the hog checking the road & holding off the anti-doping chaperons ....

 

[hrotha]

but in all fairness & according to his own statement, he could be right- he couldn't have seen anything, since LA & Co were doping inside the bus, while he was outside with the hog checking the road & holding off the anti-doping chaperons ....

Only if by "holding off" you mean "treating to some coffee".

 

[NashbarShorts]

If we have learned anything about justice it's that all those times Landis swore to tell the truth didn't count..those were just practice. Now that he is penniless he means what he says. I can't wait to see Landis on the stand and they ask about his character..When the Armstrong legal team present all those blood and urine tests that came back negative Landis will yell out"those don't count I saw him in a bus and we ran red lights in Texas!!"

Yes, b/c Landis is just raking in fistfuls of cash over this. We've all heard about the $1M book deals that are landing in his lap, as well as the studio battle for film rights. And ProTour teams are kneecapping each other trying to sign him.

 

[Polish]

Is is is?

It may come down to a definition of what doping "is".
Is transfusion one's own pure blood doping or a not allowed method?

Maybe someone needs to ask the Doctor if he witnessed any blood transfusions.

Hinault has questioned if blood transfusions are a "PED".
Ullrich's lawyers have argued that transfusions are not a "PED".


Lance: "I never used PEDs"
But Lance, c'mon, you were seen transfusing blood!
Lance: "Oh that...not a PED"
How about the EPO in 1999 for crying out loud?!
Lance: "CFD not a PED. Seriously, in my case it was a Cancer Fighting Drug. Not a PED. Livestrong."

 

[Dr. Maserati]

It may come down to a definition of what doping "is".
Is transfusion one's own pure blood doping or a not allowed method?

Maybe someone needs to ask the Doctor if he witnessed any blood transfusions.

Hinault has questioned if blood transfusions are a "PED".
Ullrich's lawyers have argued that transfusions are not a "PED".


Lance: "I never used PEDs"
But Lance, c'mon, you were seen transfusing blood!
Lance: "Oh that...not a PED"
How about the EPO in 1999 for crying out loud?!
Lance: "CFD not a PED. Seriously, in my case it was a Cancer Fighting Drug. Not a PED. Livestrong."

There's an 'is' in 'Polish' - so I wouldn't push it if I was you.
Remember, it's not about the 'is'.


Your above doesn't sound like a real Lance interview to me.

You should try something like this interview. Not bad acting, although the pause for dramtical effect was overplayed.

(0:00)Evil Euro 'reporter': "Lance Armstrong, Floyd Landis accused you of doping. What have you got to say to that?"
Matt Damon (as Lance): "Absolutley nothing to say".
Evil Euro 'reporter: "Did you ever use Performance Enhancing substances... sir?
Michael Imperioli (as Lance): How many times have I answered that question?
Evil Euro 'reporter': Well answer it now.
Robert DeNiro (as Lance): The answer hasn't changed. Don't ask me another stupid fucking question like that.
....
Cut to podium shot of Lance (Matt Damon) on podium - hire a midget to be camerman so "Lance" looks tall and imposing.
Add in footage of an actual bike race.
....
Cut to scene of Bruyneel looking baffled - played by Marlon Brando.

 

[Polish]

Evil Euro 'reporter: "Did you ever use Performance Enhancing substances... sir?

.

Performance Enhancing Substances? We all use PES's lol.
Snickers Bar and a Coke...

How about an illegal PES like EPO - different story duh

Is your own blood a illegal PES?
Of course not.

But transfusing your own blood is currently an illegal Performance Enhancing Method. Not a PED or a PES.

 

[henryg]

Correct me if I am wrong, but has anyone who has come forward to defend Armstrong in the past month or so been an American citizen? Easy to make claims when you are not in the US and subject to a subpoena by the Novitsky grand jury.

Bingo. Notice how no one who might have to pay a price for lying has anything to say. Why wouldn't they all be rushing to call Landis a liar and state unequivocally that none of it is true?

Notice no one will challenge specifics of what Landis says they just attack him personally.

 

[hrotha]

Bingo. Notice how no one who might have to pay a price for lying has anything to say. Why wouldn't they all be rushing to call Landis a liar and state unequivocally that none of it is true?

Notice no one will challenge specifics of what Landis says they just attack him personally.

One good reason for them to not rush to call Landis a liar is that they might well be proven to be lying later on. Granted, that's not as bad as being sent to jail, but it's still a situation where they don't have anything to gain from coming out publicly to defend LA. Unless they're already gaining something, that is. *cough* Monetarily *cough*. But I don't know how likely that is, or if it would made any sense as a defensive strategy.