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Did Armstrong try to silence Landis?

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I've been following this sport for about 25 years and this is the first year "Team Podium" has meant anything to anyone except a bunch of execs with Marketing dollars burning a hole in their pocket.

Lance-or-no-Lance, the TRS-80 crew had a bad Tour day France given their fire-power.

Strike Team Podium from your Public Strategies script. It makes your rambling man-crush even less credible.

It would only mean anything to them if they believed it was of value. My guess it the marketing plan didn't include it on the list of priorities....
 
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And Lance WAS stronger in 2010. Right?

Top 25 Finish and Team Podium in TdF. Battered, but ahead of Cadel, Wiggins, Basso, and many others...

You and 'stoner need to pick a lane and stick to it. Either LA is the greatest cyclist of all time, best physical attributes, best training and prep and strategies or not. Please don't pick and choose the year with wins/defeats to exchange these qualities. That would be like Forum Vandalism.

Listen, LA and RS were brutal at the tour this year, com'on do you really feel good about them winning the Team classification. I recall what LA would say about winning the Team award but losing the TdF, and, about other riders being pack-fill. And yet this year that is exactly what his team and he was. Top 25, with the Tour team RS had and with LA being sheltered every minute...Ryder H finished 7th with zero help in the mountains.

Cadel-severely injured, Wiggans-'nuff said, Basso- sick for most of tour and won the Giro one month earlier.

Stop with the Lance had road rash excuse, I though 'the Lance' didn't make excuses because he is so 'intense' and 'a real warrior" ? I recall Jan crashing through the back of car window, slicing his jugular vein and riding an ITT the next day, he never complained.

Pick a lane boys.

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You and 'stoner need to pick a lane and stick to it. Either LA is the greatest cyclist of all time, best physical attributes, best training and prep and strategies or not. Please don't pick and choose the year with wins/defeats to exchange these qualities. That would be like Forum Vandalism.

Listen, LA and RS were brutal at the tour this year, com'on do you really feel good about them winning the Team classification. I recall what LA would say about winning the Team award but losing the TdF, and, about other riders being pack-fill. And yet this year that is exactly what his team and he was. Top 25, with the Tour team RS had and with LA being sheltered every minute...Ryder H finished 7th with zero help in the mountains.

Cadel-severely injured, Wiggans-'nuff said, Basso- sick for most of tour and won the Giro one month earlier.

Stop with the Lance had road rash excuse, I though 'the Lance' didn't make excuses because he is so 'intense' and 'a real warrior" ? I recall Jan crashing through the back of car window, slicing his jugular vein and riding an ITT the next day, he never complained.

Pick a lane boys.

NW
Lance fought on valiantly after his mechanicals punctures and severe injuries from crashing multiple times at high speed. He devoted himself to Leipheimer to support Levi in his second podium quest. Lance rode selflessly in support of the team. Because of Lances perseverence, the Radio Shack achieved the all coveted Team Classification. Lance once again proved that there is no I in TEAM. What a warrior Lance is. I hope someday to meet him in person.
 

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Hey what is up with that Luxenburgian mini-me booing Lance in France. It took a pocketfull of courage for Lance to control himself around that little limburgian Leprecan.
 
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Lance fought on valiantly after his mechanicals punctures and severe injuries from crashing multiple times at high speed. He devoted himself to Leipheimer to support Levi in his second podium quest. Lance rode selflessly in support of the team. Because of Lances perseverence, the Radio Shack achieved the all coveted Team Classification. Lance once again proved that there is no I in TEAM. What a warrior Lance is. I hope someday to meet him in person.

That is well written, so heart-warming and kind. Good list, although you forgot cancer. Here's a paragraph you should add, and then it's ready to be sent to the LAF:

"Lance was also distracted by his ever-lasting quest to help cancer patients all over world that he lost nearly 10 minutes during the last stage - which the race organizers were kind enough to credit back as the cause is novel and the underlying motivation oh so selfless."
 
flicker said:
Lance fought on valiantly after his mechanicals punctures and severe injuries from crashing multiple times at high speed. He devoted himself to Leipheimer to support Levi in his second podium quest. Lance rode selflessly in support of the team. Because of Lances perseverence, the Radio Shack achieved the all coveted Team Classification. Lance once again proved that there is no I in TEAM. What a warrior Lance is. I hope someday to meet him in person.

Flicker it's not nice to copy and paste one of Wonderlance's posts and claim it as your own.
 
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Lance fought on valiantly ... I hope someday to meet him in person.

Flicker,

You remind me of Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder. There RD who is a white American, plays an Australian actor that has a radical surgery to esthetically become as a close to looking as an Afroamerican character as he can. (Great movie overall by the way)

I presume you are American, pretending to be 'Texan' and have undoubtedly had some radical 'neuro'surgery to be as close to becoming Lance as you can. I'd say you're there mate, ok the role playing is over, you made your mark. Maybe Ben Stiller stole that whole triple identity idea from you...Ben should have asked 'the Flicker' first.

Thank you for the ongoing lightheartedness, you are a funny man.

NW
 
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Lance fought on valiantly after his mechanicals punctures and severe injuries from crashing multiple times at high speed. He devoted himself to Leipheimer to support Levi in his second podium quest. Lance rode selflessly in support of the team. Because of Lances perseverence, the Radio Shack achieved the all coveted Team Classification. Lance once again proved that there is no I in TEAM. What a warrior Lance is. I hope someday to meet him in prison.

There... fixed it fer ya.
 

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Lance fought on valiantly after his mechanicals punctures and severe injuries from crashing multiple times at high speed. He devoted himself to Leipheimer to support Levi in his second podium quest. Lance rode selflessly in support of the team. Because of Lances perseverence, the Radio Shack achieved the all coveted Team Classification. Lance once again proved that there is no I in TEAM. What a warrior Lance is. I hope someday to meet him in person.
What you have never meet HIM?

Ok - well, you aren't going to find him at any races soon so if you wish to see him then just pay his $175,000 - $200,000 speaking fee -(although if you wait a few months I expect the price to drop).


Or you could just hang outside his house with a six pack of Michelob® Ultra™ and dress like this....
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Dr. Maserati said:
What you have never meet HIM?

Ok - well, you aren't going to find him at any races soon so if you wish to see him then just pay his $175,000 - $200,000 speaking fee -(although if you wait a few months I expect the price to drop).


Or you could just hang outside his house with a six pack of Michelob® Ultra™ and dress like this....
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He will need to look like Lance's mom..and like Michelob Ultra
 
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flicker said:
Lance fought on valiantly after his mechanicals punctures and severe injuries from crashing multiple times at high speed.
Ok, this sounds like you're writing about the 2010 Tour de France, although I'm not sure that they reached high speeds in the neutral rollout.

flicker said:
He devoted himself to Leipheimer to support Levi in his second podium quest. Lance rode selflessly in support of the team. Because of Lances perseverence, the Radio Shack achieved the all coveted Team Classification. Lance once again proved that there is no I in TEAM.
But I have no idea in which year this occurred. This year, Lance proved that there are two H's in Holding Back Horner.
 
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Lance fought on valiantly after his mechanicals punctures and severe injuries from crashing multiple times at high speed. He devoted himself to Leipheimer to support Levi in his second podium quest. Lance rode selflessly in support of the team. Because of Lances perseverence, the Radio Shack achieved the all coveted Team Classification. Lance once again proved that there is no I in TEAM. What a warrior Lance is. I hope someday to meet him in person.

This has got to be the oldest bait in your tackle box. Are you getting tired?
 
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there are only a few states where you don't have to tell the other party you are recording them. If this is what can get Landis a jailhouse love affair I hope they toss him in a cage. Lying to federations and judges didn't punish him so I pray for some justice. The fact that he can get a license after what he did is proof that 2 years is a dumb number. If he had a life ban, his life as loser would have been better documented. It's hard to buy drugs on credit so that option for his self explosion is limited. I hope that Floyd is flogged by the law as soon as he proves useless . That day can't come soon enough. Illegal recording would be better than cable theft or shop lifting for that drug gobbling lying sack of cat crap.If Lance is convicted I hope they share a cell. Floyd is the cycling equiv of the Taliban any relationship is cancerous it takes longer for the huge tumor to grow. If this hand full doesn't stick to the wall I hope Novisky's career is ruined for his Floyd follies.
 
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there are only a few states where you don't have to tell the other party you are recording them. If this is what can get Landis a jailhouse love affair I hope they toss him in a cage. Lying to federations and judges didn't punish him so I pray for some justice. The fact that he can get a license after what he did is proof that 2 years is a dumb number. If he had a life ban, his life as loser would have been better documented. It's hard to buy drugs on credit so that option for his self explosion is limited. I hope that Floyd is flogged by the law as soon as he proves useless . That day can't come soon enough. Illegal recording would be better than cable theft or shop lifting for that drug gobbling lying sack of cat crap.If Lance is convicted I hope they share a cell. Floyd is the cycling equiv of the Taliban any relationship is cancerous it takes longer for the huge tumor to grow. If this hand full doesn't stick to the wall I hope Novisky's career is ruined for his Floyd follies.

This post is a much better example of blind, stupid, ignorant hate than anything that any Lance "hater" has come up with to date.
 
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there are only a few states where you don't have to tell the other party you are recording them. If this is what can get Landis a jailhouse love affair I hope they toss him in a cage. Lying to federations and judges didn't punish him so I pray for some justice. The fact that he can get a license after what he did is proof that 2 years is a dumb number. If he had a life ban, his life as loser would have been better documented. It's hard to buy drugs on credit so that option for his self explosion is limited. I hope that Floyd is flogged by the law as soon as he proves useless . That day can't come soon enough. Illegal recording would be better than cable theft or shop lifting for that drug gobbling lying sack of cat crap.If Lance is convicted I hope they share a cell. Floyd is the cycling equiv of the Taliban any relationship is cancerous it takes longer for the huge tumor to grow. If this hand full doesn't stick to the wall I hope Novisky's career is ruined for his Floyd follies.

Boy you must not like Landis. Has he hurt you personally, or hurt one of your friends?
 
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Flicker,

You remind me of Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder. There RD who is a white American, plays an Australian actor that has a radical surgery to esthetically become as a close to looking as an Afroamerican character as he can. (Great movie overall by the way)

I presume you are American, pretending to be 'Texan' and have undoubtedly had some radical 'neuro'surgery to be as close to becoming Lance as you can. I'd say you're there mate, ok the role playing is over, you made your mark. Maybe Ben Stiller stole that whole triple identity idea from you...Ben should have asked 'the Flicker' first.

Thank you for the ongoing lightheartedness, you are a funny man.

NW

Flicker went full ***...
 
fatandfast said:
there are only a few states where you don't have to tell the other party you are recording them. If this is what can get Landis a jailhouse love affair I hope they toss him in a cage. Lying to federations and judges didn't punish him so I pray for some justice. The fact that he can get a license after what he did is proof that 2 years is a dumb number. If he had a life ban, his life as loser would have been better documented. It's hard to buy drugs on credit so that option for his self explosion is limited. I hope that Floyd is flogged by the law as soon as he proves useless . That day can't come soon enough. Illegal recording would be better than cable theft or shop lifting for that drug gobbling lying sack of cat crap.If Lance is convicted I hope they share a cell. Floyd is the cycling equiv of the Taliban any relationship is cancerous it takes longer for the huge tumor to grow. If this hand full doesn't stick to the wall I hope Novisky's career is ruined for his Floyd follies.

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I think it is funny that doping apologists come off like loons these days. This guy could teach Mel Gibson a thing or two.
 
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there are only a few states where you don't have to tell the other party you are recording them. If this is what can get Landis a jailhouse love affair I hope they toss him in a cage. Lying to federations and judges didn't punish him so I pray for some justice. The fact that he can get a license after what he did is proof that 2 years is a dumb number. If he had a life ban, his life as loser would have been better documented. It's hard to buy drugs on credit so that option for his self explosion is limited. I hope that Floyd is flogged by the law as soon as he proves useless . That day can't come soon enough. Illegal recording would be better than cable theft or shop lifting for that drug gobbling lying sack of cat crap.If Lance is convicted I hope they share a cell. Floyd is the cycling equiv of the Taliban any relationship is cancerous it takes longer for the huge tumor to grow. If this hand full doesn't stick to the wall I hope Novisky's career is ruined for his Floyd follies.

Shouldn't drink and post late at night. I know.
 
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there are only a few states where you don't have to tell the other party you are recording them. [deleted the rest of the ignorant blather]

In the US, 38 states, plus the District of Columbia, require only one participant in a conversation to give consent to recording said convo. That means that if only the person recording it consents, the recording is legal. The other twelve states require all parties to a conversation to consent to being recorded, including California, FL's state of residence. I'm not sure how these laws are applied in the case of one participant being in a "single-party" state and the (non-consenting) participant being in an "all-party" state, but the federal law is single-party, so in a federal investigation the law may default to that. More details here: http://www.rcfp.org/taping/index.html

All of which means Landis is possibly (or even probably) in the clear regarding any of his alleged recordings. In the case of any of these recordings involving one or both parties being out of the US, it may be illegal, but Flandis hasn't exactly shown any inclination to answer a foreign warrant or summons to appear (France, etc.), so I doubt he's sweating bullets over that either.

I know making up facts is fun, but next time try picking something that takes more than two minutes to verify. :p
 
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In the US, 38 states, plus the District of Columbia, require only one participant in a conversation to give consent to recording said convo. That means that if only the person recording it consents, the recording is legal. The other twelve states require all parties to a conversation to consent to being recorded, including California, FL's state of residence. I'm not sure how these laws are applied in the case of one participant being in a "single-party" state and the (non-consenting) participant being in an "all-party" state, but the federal law is single-party, so in a federal investigation the law may default to that. More details here: http://www.rcfp.org/taping/index.html

All of which means Landis is possibly (or even probably) in the clear regarding any of his alleged recordings. In the case of any of these recordings involving one or both parties being out of the US, it may be illegal, but Flandis hasn't exactly shown any inclination to answer a foreign warrant or summons to appear (France, etc.), so I doubt he's sweating bullets over that either.

I know making up facts is fun, but next time try picking something that takes more than two minutes to verify. :p

I was grasping for anything that will put Landis in jail. Sorry about the 38 states being part of a law I know(knew) little about. When Landis swore under oath that he didn't take drugs and that he was innocent I am glad that at least he had his cycling career ruined. I would hope that a slip up on a vacation or outing would find him facing a court system that would treat him more harshly. When he lied to the many panels of judges I feel that his 2 years should have been spent behind bars rather than training for a failed comeback. I can only wish that Landis will be put on the stand and they can show people a copy of his book,interviews done for mags,TV and radio where he lied. Paint a soiled picture of his dirty work in French labs that he says he would love to clear up. I read over and over of how crappy a person Lance is..I will take it as fact and reference.So what should Floyd's punishment be if Lance is scum?The people in charge of making and keeping the rules of cycling have convicted Armstrong of nothing but if he is to be roasted in some public gallery I hope the public sees the inside workings of his accuser. If Armstrong is a criminal then Landis should be at least sent to France to face trial given the data that the justice officials have. There is hope..maybe just a little after the Swiss tax fraud whistle blower got 40 months I would be happy if Landis got that much.
 

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I was grasping for anything that will put Landis in jail. Sorry about the 38 states being part of a law I know(knew) little about. When Landis swore under oath that he didn't take drugs and that he was innocent I am glad that at least he had his cycling career ruined. I would hope that a slip up on a vacation or outing would find him facing a court system that would treat him more harshly. When he lied to the many panels of judges I feel that his 2 years should have been spent behind bars rather than training for a failed comeback. I can only wish that Landis will be put on the stand and they can show people a copy of his book,interviews done for mags,TV and radio where he lied. Paint a soiled picture of his dirty work in French labs that he says he would love to clear up. I read over and over of how crappy a person Lance is..I will take it as fact and reference.So what should Floyd's punishment be if Lance is scum?The people in charge of making and keeping the rules of cycling have convicted Armstrong of nothing but if he is to be roasted in some public gallery I hope the public sees the inside workings of his accuser. If Armstrong is a criminal then Landis should be at least sent to France to face trial given the data that the justice officials have. There is hope..maybe just a little after the Swiss tax fraud whistle blower got 40 months I would be happy if Landis got that much.

Did you just smoke some bad weed?

I'll bet Landis would turn "state's" evidence in France too if the French were interested. You realize it's a common strategy?

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/turn+states'+evidence

turn states' evidence v. for a person accused of a crime to decides to give the prosecutor evidence about the crime, including facts about other participants in the crime (or other crimes) in return for lenient treatment, a plea bargain, and/or a recommendation of a light sentence. (See: plea bargain)

I'm giving you an out with the bad weed idea. The other alternative is that you're one of Pharmstrong's jilted lovers.
 

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I was grasping for anything that will put Landis in jail. Sorry about the 38 states being part of a law I know(knew) little about. When Landis swore under oath that he didn't take drugs and that he was innocent I am glad that at least he had his cycling career ruined. I would hope that a slip up on a vacation or outing would find him facing a court system that would treat him more harshly. When he lied to the many panels of judges I feel that his 2 years should have been spent behind bars rather than training for a failed comeback. I can only wish that Landis will be put on the stand and they can show people a copy of his book,interviews done for mags,TV and radio where he lied. Paint a soiled picture of his dirty work in French labs that he says he would love to clear up. I read over and over of how crappy a person Lance is..I will take it as fact and reference.So what should Floyd's punishment be if Lance is scum?The people in charge of making and keeping the rules of cycling have convicted Armstrong of nothing but if he is to be roasted in some public gallery I hope the public sees the inside workings of his accuser. If Armstrong is a criminal then Landis should be at least sent to France to face trial given the data that the justice officials have. There is hope..maybe just a little after the Swiss tax fraud whistle blower got 40 months I would be happy if Landis got that much.
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This is a pint of 'Bitter'.
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Seriously I do not think it would be in Lances' best interests to get near to Floyd. Bad things seem to happen to people close to Floyd. Look at Floyds' ex wife Amber, she did not get to party with Kid Rock after the tour. That was in Floyds' book which I am embarassed to say I bought.
Floyd is a hot potato. After Floyd mans up for his computer hacking in France everyone will want to hang with Floyd again. Floyd is an outlaw at this point.