I can't remember how he used to climb. Watching the Giro it seemed like he was standing more than I remember from his past tours. Same in the stage 1 TT.
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Did LA always stand a lot when he climbed?
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It's because he thinks the sun shines out of his a$s, therefore he stays much cooler by standing up.
A perfect example of why the forum needs a rubbish bin..
yes he always stood up...
but, does anyone really &*^%$£ Care?
yes he always stood up...
but, does anyone really &*^%$£ Care?
dimspace said:
I have it on good authority that the powers behind the scenes are dreaming up a suitable location for s h i t e like this....and anything rightwingnutjob posts.
Actually, don't think he used to stand much at all unless attacking (the fast cadence guy uphill sitting--or was). Noticed this in Milan San Remo too. Why now?
1) age and bad back (he's known to have the latter). Seen stretching it a lot just before the TT
2) maybe looking for power he doesn't now have.
On both counts, prob. weaker than before. A significant clue.
1) age and bad back (he's known to have the latter). Seen stretching it a lot just before the TT
2) maybe looking for power he doesn't now have.
On both counts, prob. weaker than before. A significant clue.
Parrot23 said:
Respectfully disagree. He's always stood a lot while climbing, especially on steep sections or to attack. From '99 on. I do agree on the bad back, though. His profile on the bike is bizarre.
Guess I'm puzzled now why he stands when not attacking, eg. was standing in Milan San Remo when most of the other guys were sitting (think on the Cipressa, etc.) I thought lack of race fitness.
I know he used to stand when bridging (eg. up to Kloden and Ullrich in the past), but versus Pantani, once he got the gap, he would sit and hammer away at high cadence.
Hump back. Looks like a bullfrog inflating. He just inflates backwards (or his spine is bent) versus all the other guys looking like they've go big bellies from distended huge lungs bellybreathing etc. Indurain was amazing that way in TT's (think his lung size was measured as unusually large).
Any way thanks for response.
I know he used to stand when bridging (eg. up to Kloden and Ullrich in the past), but versus Pantani, once he got the gap, he would sit and hammer away at high cadence.
Hump back. Looks like a bullfrog inflating.
He just inflates backwards (or his spine is bent) versus all the other guys looking like they've go big bellies from distended huge lungs bellybreathing etc. Indurain was amazing that way in TT's (think his lung size was measured as unusually large).Any way thanks for response.
Parrot23 said:Guess I'm puzzled now why he stands when not attacking, eg. was standing in Milan San Remo when most of the other guys were sitting (think on the Cipressa, etc.) I thought lack of race fitness.
I know he used to stand when bridging (eg. up to Kloden and Ullrich in the past), but versus Pantani, once he got the gap, he would sit and hammer away at high cadence.
Hump back. Looks like a bullfrog inflating.
Any way thanks for response.
He actually only use to get out of the saddle when he was attacking (or responding to an attack)--basically lifting his speed. I noticed the same thing on MSR, the Giro and on Stage 1. But according to Lance he's at the same level he had in 2002 or 2004, so it can't be a lack of fitness or struggling for power. Maybe he just wants to be like Contador.
You are of course well aware that there are plenty of threads more inane than this one, yes?dimspace said:
indurain666 said:
Yeah, he used to stand a lot, especially when attacking on a climb.
A more interesting thing is that his cadence appeared lower in the ITT.
Indurain, sure I don't know anyone who attacks on a climb while sitting. He did a lot of explosive attacking in the mountains in his early tours; hence, the videos. We haven't seen him do that in a long time (certainly not in his last few tours, re your reference to 2004 as last vid.)
He got his high cadence rep when climbing seated once he had a gap. I see him standing more now and think it's the best clue we have of his currrent form vs. the past (other than current race results).
Speculating here, but the TT'ing now at a lower cadence might have to do with that extra weight/upper body muscle he's now carrying. The bigger/heavier set guys seems to push bigger gears. Might be a deliberate subtle change to account for an extra few pounds of muscle.
See Bert Grabsch in the Monaco TT? Never seen a guy who looks like he's pedaling in slow motion. The guy must have been at 66-70 rpm in places on the flat, LOL. Built like a barrel (all muscle).
He got his high cadence rep when climbing seated once he had a gap. I see him standing more now and think it's the best clue we have of his currrent form vs. the past (other than current race results).
Speculating here, but the TT'ing now at a lower cadence might have to do with that extra weight/upper body muscle he's now carrying. The bigger/heavier set guys seems to push bigger gears. Might be a deliberate subtle change to account for an extra few pounds of muscle.
See Bert Grabsch in the Monaco TT? Never seen a guy who looks like he's pedaling in slow motion. The guy must have been at 66-70 rpm in places on the flat, LOL. Built like a barrel (all muscle).
Parrot23 said:
Yeah i think it was discussed in another thread. The most accurate description of him was........ The Michelin Man
Someone else also commented that he looked like he was carrying all the spare tyres for rest of the team
...Thats just gold.My thoughts on lance. Yeah he does stand more now. For probably a combination of many of the reasons stated in this thread.
El Imbatido said:Yeah i think it was discussed in another thread. The most accurate description of him was........ The Michelin Man
Someone else also commented that he looked like he was carrying all the spare tyres for rest of the team
Ha! I missed that. I'll have to find that
Definitely some funny posters here.Man, I was thinking Versus had slowed down the feed just for Grabsch. Ready to adjust my TV set.
I just watched some video footage of previous tours to refreshen my memory and yes, he did stand a lot while climbing back then.
Parrot23 said:Ha! I missed that. I'll have to find that
Man, I was thinking Versus had slowed down the feed just for Grabsch. Ready to adjust my TV set.
Nah, they had to switch to wide screen for Grabsch.
funny that people make "spare tyre" jokes about Grabsch.
Up close he is all huge muscles and throbbing veins.
He looks scary as hell.
Up close he is all huge muscles and throbbing veins.
He looks scary as hell.
Check out some of the vids on youtube like this ..... he stood quite a bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHJErrp4eOw&feature=related (Turn the volume off BTW, as the music is enough to make you want to chuck your computer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHJErrp4eOw&feature=related (Turn the volume off BTW, as the music is enough to make you want to chuck your computer)
lostintime said:
Thanks. Good video. Definitely stands a lot.
Man, Ulrich looks like he's in world of hurt there.
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