The Hitch said:
I appreciate the first bit.
As for the second bit I believe all sports have doping issues. You could say im looking at it through athletics or strongman, or a number of other sports with doping histories.
Thats fair enough - I would agree that a lot of sports (if not all sports) have a serious doping problem.
Looking at Dispatches as someone who knows a little about doping in cycling things sounded like how cycling was 10 years ago, while the methods and products are different the stories of medical assistance and programmes sound all too familiar.
The Hitch said:
And its not that I dont respect that Sadlier has spoken out, just that I dont think what he offers is exactly what is needed. He says he was doped by coaches 10 years ago and you correctly point out that if teams were using doping products then it suggests they might be using them now.
But to illustrate how I feel about that ill bring the discussion to cycling for an example.
Would you be content if instead of everything that Lance has been accused of in the last 10 years, instead of all of that, the tests, the reports the problems, investigations etc, the entire argument against Lance being clean came down to a article by some guy from a continental team in 2006 that he found out 1 of his coaches was putting a few steoids into his food 15 years ago?
I suppose this is the part of your argument I don't get.
(I will avoid the LA reference as Sadliers contribution is to show a systematic approach to doping within football - not trying to out an individual.)
Sadlier's story is exactly like Kimmages in 1990, someone who revealed the doping practices within the sport.
When you have clubs seeking 'scientific' solutions it will not take long before PEDs are considered and as anti-doping in soccer is poor then that will be abused.
The Hitch said:
Would i be wrong to think that you prefer to have the testimonies, the tests, the investigations and all that on your side?
Of course I would like that - but it doesn't mean that what people are saying isn't true.
The Hitch said:
As for the third, well i would suggest if what he said caused any major problems for the FIFa that we know to be corrupt then maybe there would have been some implications.
@ Mambo, yeah i probably approached that the wrong way, you are right, but i would point out that Lebouf was a major footballer at the highest level, Sadlier was not. And like Rusedski in tennis its been shown that if someone like that is willing to shut up, their place in the football money making machine is not under threat.
, and is now the manager of Marseille, and previously Juventus, another known dop-team.
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