Does Andy Schleck lack the mental ability to ever win the TDF?

[Ryo Hazuki]

they are lieing hypocrites. when fank crashed cancellara put down the hammer and all was good. when mollema flatted in suisse leopard started riding like crazy and last year when andy crashed again in the rain and he was down 5 minutes cancellara neutralized the race. leopard got what was coming to them and I'm enjoying every minute

 

[VeloFidelis]

andy schleck has shown totday he will never win a tour de france. he should retire, becomes he's making himself look like the biggest tool in history, no one can take him serious anymore except some blind chauvinist luxemburg fans

Obviously these are qualities with which you share an intimate and personal knowledge.

 

[thirteen]

The fact that most of them left indicates there were some problems. They hardly stabbed him in the back. He was courting Contador long before he knew Leopard was forming.

do you blame him?

Riis knew better than anybody what he had, or should i say what he didn't have, in Andy Schleck.

 

[thirteen]

"Is this really what people want to see?" Schleck asked soon after the stage won by Thor Hushovd. "I think the parcours was really badly chosen today. We don't want to see riders crashing or riders taking risks. Everybody has family at home, and finishes like this should not be allowed."


From itv

holler if anybody finds a link that isn't geo-restricted.

ta!

 

[mr. tibbs]

yup.

next he'll be wanting them to eliminate ITTs...

oh, wait, they already did that.

Haha, damn Big D--you're on a roll today!

 

[No_Balls]

Andy will win a TdF, if all other riders have to wait for 30 minutes at the start of every climb.

Andy can win the Tour if these factors happens:

*No ITTs (and prologues). In 2011, check.
*If everybody waits at him after a "misfortune".
*If he is somewhat after (sadly Canc couldn´t neutralize today)
*No Category 2 climbs
*No descents to the finish
*Good weather all the time (no rain)
*No Contador.
*When the mountain is longer...
*...And steeper.
*A Team-time trial which is around 60 kilometers

 

[HL2037]

The fact that most of them left indicates there were some problems. They hardly stabbed him in the back. He was courting Contador long before he knew Leopard was forming.

Not quite. Going in to last years tour he didn't even have a sponsor for this year. Can't blame the riders for seeking other teams. The way Andy and others acted in the Vuelta was disgusting though.

 

[Angliru]

No link, but yep, he said it.

I'm restraining myself from my usual anti-Andy post but he's really offering up endless material for me to use. I'll hold my tongue and see what the real fans of Andy have to say, since I've noticed even among them a somewhat changing tide of opinion.

 

[thehog]

Andy can win the Tour if these factors happens:

*No ITTs (and prologues). In 2011, check.
*If everybody waits at him after a "misfortune".
*If he is somewhat after (sadly Canc couldn´t neutralize today)
*No Category 2 climbs
*No descents to the finish
*When the mountain is longer...
*...And steeper.
*A Team-time trial which is around 60 kilometers

...and no Contador.

 

[Angliru]

He said to ITV4 - "It doesn't mean anything, I am still in good shape..The parcours is really badly chosen, a finish like this shouldn't be allowed."

Okay, thanks! That pretty much says it all. And to think I was feeling a bit of guilt earlier when I was getting some drama my way about my constantly voicing why I find him annoying, thinking I was being a bit hard on him.

 

[Angliru]

"Is this really what people want to see?" Schleck asked soon after the stage won by Thor Hushovd. "I think the parcours was really badly chosen today. We don't want to see riders crashing or riders taking risks. Everybody has family at home, and finishes like this should not be allowed."


From itv

10 chars.

And it just keeps getting better!

 

[Angliru]

The fact that most of them left indicates there were some problems. They hardly stabbed him in the back. He was courting Contador long before he knew Leopard was forming.

I think you may have your timeline a bit off but I'll let you keep believing that.

 

[LaFlorecita]

...and no Contador.

and don't forget the weather.

 

[LaFlorecita]

The fact that most of them left indicates there were some problems. They hardly stabbed him in the back. He was courting Contador long before he knew Leopard was forming.

Right...

 

[thirteen]

for those who can't see the ITV4 video either: http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/19072011/58/tour-de-france-schleck-unhappy-organisers.html

It was a dangerous finish.

People don't want a race that is decided in a downhill. We don't want crashes or thoughtless risks.

We have families waiting for us at home. Do the public want a fair race or a race which ends in hospital?

 

[Cimber]

The fact that most of them left indicates there were some problems. They hardly stabbed him in the back. He was courting Contador long before he knew Leopard was forming.

No he wasnt. The documentary about who knew what when clearly shows that.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

I think you may have your timeline a bit off but I'll let you keep believing that.

Prove me wrong then.

 

[Schnellinger]

OK, so let's get rid of mountain top finishes and while we're about it, those sprint finishes are a bit dangerous, they'd better go as well. And those TT just aren't fair!

Poor Andy.

Maybe Andy should choose the track. But wait, that courses are way to round for him.
Unfair.

 

[this_is_edie]

Maybe Andy should choose the track. But wait, that courses are way to round for him.
Unfair.

and they only turn left.
really unfair.

 

[TimChristy]

I'm done with AS. The guy needs the perfect course, team, weather, training schedule, and competitor misfortunes to have a shot in winning the tour. When these doesn't play into his favor he b!tches. I honestly liked him as a rider in 08 and 09 because he rode his bike, kept his mouth shut, and performed well. Wish the media would remove him as a tour favorite so he would lose his sense of entitlement and start to ride like he did three years ago.

 

[No_Balls]

...and no Contador.

Already added it.

 

[jobiwan]

I'm restraining myself from my usual anti-Andy post but he's really offering up endless material for me to use. I'll hold my tongue and see what the real fans of Andy have to say, since I've noticed even among them a somewhat changing tide of opinion.

Nah, he deserves what he's getting today. The Andy-bashers have every right to say what they're saying today.

That said...
Still rooting for him, but he makes it quite hard on himself and us.
He needs a talking too, he's put his Team Managers and his own brother in Damage Control mode right now.

Hopefully he'll learn and be better prepared for future Tours.
I still think he has a shot in this year's Tour, but I doubt it.

 

[Cobblestones]

Andy can win the Tour if these factors happens:

*No ITTs (and prologues). In 2011, check.
*If everybody waits at him after a "misfortune".
*If he is somewhat after (sadly Canc couldn´t neutralize today)
*No Category 2 climbs
*No descents to the finish
*Good weather all the time (no rain)
*No Contador.
*When the mountain is longer...
*...And steeper.
*A Team-time trial which is around 60 kilometers

Andy should hand in his balls (if he hasn't done so already) and try the TdF Feminin. Although, come to think of it, Nicole Cooke and Emmy Pooley will still ride with more panache.

 

[thirteen]

Nah, he deserves what he's getting today. The Andy-bashers have every right to say what they're saying today.
<snip>

respect. (for you -- not Andy)

 

[No_Balls]

Nah, he deserves what he's getting today. The Andy-bashers have every right to say what they're saying today.

That said...
Still rooting for him, but he makes it quite hard on himself and us.
He needs a talking too, he's put his Team Managers and his own brother in Damage Control mode right now.

Hopefully he'll learn and be better prepared for future Tours.
I still think he has a shot in this year's Tour, but I doubt it.

To be honest, i´ll think of you as a good guy. Andy don´t deserve fans like you.

If he kept his mouth shut and just did the damn race properly he would regain his reputation from 2008/2009 which saw a exciting rider, able to stay with the best, and a future GT-rider. As the current situation is he is ALL talk and none deliverance. It looks like he is to preoccupied with whining, rather then racing, after every stage who doesn´t go his way.

He looks like the spoiled-brat in school who thinks to highly of himself but never proved it. We neved liked those guys