Does anyone wonder?

[The Hitch]

Hmm. I think I was wrong about his results.

I just don't quite buy the "donkey to racehorse via dope" story with Froome. Yes, it was 2nd place in a GT, but quite frankly, 2011 was not a race that did the Vuelta's history justice.

I would say that in ever year from 2007-10, the 3rd-placed rider was better than Cobo. I think that says a lot about just what Froome's result means.

Cobo's time up Angliru was good though, which suggests that the level wasn't that low.

 

[ChrisE]

This is just ****ing disgusting.

I've been coming to the clinic for years to read misanthropic rants about evil doping *******s, and there's always some smart **** who thinks they're so much more ingenuous than everyone else.

If you want to post this sort of hatefull post where you just accept explanations for OBVIOUS CHEATING, then take it to the pro-racing forum.

Just sickening.

I think LS was being sarcastic....at least I hope he was being sarcastic.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

No, I am quite sure that stupidity is thinking that the difference between now where he is **** and 2006 when he was among the best riders in the world has nothing to do with being doped up to the eyeballs then.

and your point is.... that he is the only honest and clean rider in the peloton today?

 

[Ripper]

This is just ****ing disgusting.

I've been coming to the clinic for years to read misanthropic rants about evil doping *******s, and there's always some smart **** who thinks they're so much more ingenuous than everyone else.

If you want to post this sort of hatefull post where you just accept explanations for OBVIOUS CHEATING, then take it to the pro-racing forum.

Just sickening.

Wow, I'm not sure if something is lost in translation here, but it sounds like you're making LS?

 

[karlboss]

This is just ****ing disgusting.

I've been coming to the clinic for years to read misanthropic rants about evil doping *******s, and there's always some smart **** who thinks they're so much more ingenuous than everyone else.

If you want to post this sort of hatefull post where you just accept explanations for OBVIOUS CHEATING, then take it to the pro-racing forum.

Just sickening.

Libertine was being sarcastic, take a flick through this forum and note his/her comparison of Froome and Cobo. Certainly does not accept this sickness as the reason for Froome's change in fortune.
If this sickness is really the reason that Froome has only shone for about 6 weeks in his career i really feel for the guy. However given the history of our sport, I'm going to have to remain sceptical.

 

[AngusW]

...

Lance winning outside July? please, that basically never happened.

Lance Armstrong's wins outside July 1999-2005:

1999 Prologue Dauphine Libere, Stage 4 Route de Sud, Stage 4 Circuit de la Sarthe
2000 GP des Nations, GP Eddy Merckx, Stage 3 Dauphine Libere
2001 Tour de Suisse GC + stages 1 & 8
2002 Dauphine Libere GC + stage 6, GP Midi Libre GC
2003 Dauphine Libere GC + stage 3
2004 Volta ao Algarve stage 4, Tour de Georgia GC + stages 3 & 4, Stage 5 Tour du Languedoc-Roussillon
2005 Dauphine Libere points classification

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Froome only lost 1 minute 44 in a 17k TT yesterday so it is fair to say he is on his way to win the Vuelta this year.

Getting beaten by known time triallers like Tiralongo, Weening, Roy, Tschopp etc etc is no shame Chris. You even beat Evans so you are on your way.

 

[Caruut]

Was thinking back over some of my posts trying to defend Froome and I've pretty much convinced myself that he's dodgy as ****. Had been thinking that the other circumstances justify it, but I'd not really thought about it properly.

 

[Caruut]

Peter Velits (2010) better than Kash (2006) ??

Not now I think about it. Was thinking of 2012 vs 2012.