Doping Hotline

[armchairclimber]

"Hello, doping hotline"

"Hi, it's Mr Benotti again. Why did you cut me off?"

click brrrrrrrrrr

 

[thirteen]

brilliant TOTO!

 

[Cycle Chic]

Ashenden

..

Ashenden says UCI-run anti-doping hotline would lack credibility

“For the UCI to urge riders to come forward with information now is like a fox with feathers in its mouth urging the next chicken to come down off its roost.”


Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...ine-would-lack-credibility.aspx#ixzz2CBoO4U00

Brilliant.

 

[fatandfast]

This just in from Frankie:

"...Speaking after the UCI's hotline initaitve was launched, Andreu said, "I think it's a sh!t idea. It's something they're putting out there but I don't know who thought of it. Who is going call up because unless you're talking about yourself then you're just raising suspicion on other people. It's not like the UCI have a police force that are going to investigate all these tips."
...
"When I came forward they criticised me."

Well there you have it.

Dave.

Just a lie. He never came forward. His admission was an interview. The next and only punishment he got was from the cycle fed after his grand jury. The guy is like the rest never told his employer, the UCI and USAC had multiple written and audio accounts of Frankie saying he broke the rules. He said it over and over, nobody did anything. When the rest of the planet got on Armstrong's case then light bulbs went on atop the official heads and Andreu is finally punished. What more did he need to do? Shoot up in front of them? The silly part is Yates,White and others have all stepped away because of their doping and national team junior involvement, but Frankie shouldn't have to because he told a newspaper he was a doper, it was no secret. It may be the flavor of the day, but all the other doped riders turned managers are all employed. Good message to the paying public. He should post a copy of the letters or emails between himself and the UCI. Who wrote first? Did he admit to them he doped?

 

[D-Queued]

Just a lie. He never came forward. His admission was an interview. The next and only punishment he got was from the cycle fed after his grand jury. The guy is like the rest never told his employer, the UCI and USAC had multiple written and audio accounts of Frankie saying he broke the rules. He said it over and over, nobody did anything. When the rest of the planet got on Armstrong's case then light bulbs went on atop the official heads and Andreu is finally punished. What more did he need to do? Shoot up in front of them? The silly part is Yates,White and others have all stepped away because of their doping and national team junior involvement, but Frankie shouldn't have to because he told a newspaper he was a doper, it was no secret. It may be the flavor of the day, but all the other doped riders turned managers are all employed. Good message to the paying public. He should post a copy of the letters or emails between himself and the UCI. Who wrote first? Did he admit to them he doped?

Interesting.

So if someone publicly admits to doping, you are suggesting that it doesn't count if he didn't email the UCI?

Interesting. Too bad there was no doping hotline, I guess.

Interesting in the context of the Vrijman report that solely relied upon - unverified - newspaper articles as its source of information.

So, *unverified* news services counted for the UCI then, but not for Frankie?

Interesting.

So you are saying that it was Frankie who had the double standard?

Dave.

 

[sublimit]

Someone give it to Richie Porte.

Porte needs to find the anti stalking hotline.

 

[fatandfast]

Interesting.

So if someone publicly admits to doping, you are suggesting that it doesn't count if he didn't email the UCI?

Interesting. Too bad there was no doping hotline, I guess.

Interesting in the context of the Vrijman report that solely relied upon - unverified - newspaper articles as its source of information.

So, *unverified* news services counted for the UCI then, but not for Frankie?

Interesting.

So you are saying that it was Frankie who had the double standard?

no I am saying that like all the other pros that have been tripped up by life,taxes,cancer,divorce or anything else. The UCI or federation should have at the very least acknowledged wrongdoing and acted accordingly. Frankie is not evil,but he sure ain't helpful. His punishment should have been before a decade of dry doodoo had happened. Look at the timeline. Lance doped,undetected.
SCA sees something completely different.
Frank and Betsy tell their story,right or wrong. Once Frankie repeated he was a doper the USAC should have acted, or the USPro,or the UCI or his ex-team or....nobody cared until now. Andreu is a good racer and a decent guy,just like the rest. Top down the UCI is the sloth, member admits to breaking the rules and no reaction.none If there was a standard, high or otherwise the idea of an athlete publishing that he broke your rules is cause for (re)action

 

[D-Queued]

no I am saying that like all the other pros that have been tripped up by life,taxes,cancer,divorce or anything else. The UCI or federation should have at the very least acknowledged wrongdoing and acted accordingly. Frankie is not evil,but he sure ain't helpful. His punishment should have been before a decade of dry doodoo had happened. Look at the timeline. Lance doped,undetected.
SCA sees something completely different.
Frank and Betsy tell their story,right or wrong. Once Frankie repeated he was a doper the USAC should have acted, or the USPro,or the UCI or his ex-team or....nobody cared until now. Andreu is a good racer and a decent guy,just like the rest. Top down the UCI is the sloth, member admits to breaking the rules and no reaction.none If there was a standard, high or otherwise the idea of an athlete publishing that he broke your rules is cause for (re)action

Ok, you make some good points here.

Frankie provided one of the few (first?) voluntary admissions of doping.

Riis did as well, but that was later.

You are right. Nobody acted.

Where we may disagree is how Frankie could possibly be faulted for the lack of action elsewhere.

Moreover, we may also disagree in how those that voluntarily come forward should be treated differently from those who lie, deny, and fight the anti-doping system. Virtually all judicial systems provide leniency for cooperation.

To Frankie's point, he was not penalized for doping, but was instead criticized for voluntarily admitting he doped. Criticized and ostracized.

He could have been used as a witness. He could have been used as a resource on doping and testing techniques.

Instead he represents exactly what anyone could expect who called into the ludicrous UCI doping hotline. At best, they will be ignored. At worst, singled-out, ostracized and ignored.

Maybe the UCI will hear your concerns about Frankie, and punish anyone that calls into the hotline.

Not sure what sort of a solution that is to any sort of problem, though.

Dave.

 

[blackcat]

riis volunteered with a gun to his head

 

[auscyclefan94]

1800-CALL-PAT-FOR-A-COVERUP

 

[doperhopper]

Is there also an "Anonymous Dopers" hotline and therapy group?

 

[ElChingon]

Caller: Hello Doping Hotline, I have seen UCI personnel take bribes in the form of "Donations" to help combat doping, yet there is no solid proof the donation went to the anti-doping cause. Can you find out where the money went?

HotLine: The line is breaking up... (click)...

 

[Barnaby]

Some of the options:
"If amphetamine abuse has left you jittery press 1 repeatedly"
"If human growth hormone has given you hands like breadboards, press buttons 1 to 9 simultaneously"
"If you are Andy Schleck, press harder"

 

[D-Queued]

Doping Hotline now a Helpline

All the excitement over Lance's bribery of USADA and his coming out of the closet on Oprah, and we overlooked this gem:

I didn't have to get past the subtitle and the first sentence to end up laughing on the floor:

UCI anti-doping helpline goes live next week

UCI unsure of how to handle information

The UCI’s anti-doping hotline has been re-branded as a 'helpline' and is expected to go live by the end of next week

...

“Forget hotline, it’s a helpline,”

It all falls into perspective given that one of the most classic doping lines is, "Do you need any help?"

Who is going to call the Hotline and find out how good help costs these days?

Dave.

 

[Tinman]

The UCI’s anti-doping hotline has been re-branded as a 'helpline'[/B] and is expected to go live by the end of next week

After Lance's buddies and peers blew the lid on doping the remaining riders need all the help they can get. Certainly Sky could have done with a doping help-line a good 6 months ago.