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neineinei said:
He was banned from 31 Dec 2014. If the pictures are from the time of upload Driouch was banned there, but from the messages and the other photos I get a feeling they can be older.

There is a pic of him from the 2012 Junior worlds, with the message: Great memories world junior chompionship # work hard.
He also uploaded this picture the same day in January, which I think is from the qualifying heat at the Olympics, the day after the bio passport test that brought him down.

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He came second in the heat, after Mohammed Shaween of Saudi Arabia. Shaween was banned for bio passport anomalies in 2013.
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Exactly the same ground Mo was training at in Ethiopia posted on his twitter feb 17th

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http://thegame730am.com/pga-golfer-dan-olsen-says-tiger-woods-is-armstrong-of-golf/

PGA Golfer Dan Olsen: Tiger Woods Suspended For Failed Drug Test

East Lansing native and PGA pro Dan Olsen was on Mad Dog in the Morning Friday morning. He shared some inside hearsay from the links about Tiger Woods.

Olsen said insiders have told him that Tiger Woods is currently serving a suspension for failing a drug test. Olsen also went on to speak of Woods gaining an advantage by using untested equipment on the course.

Olsen said Woods will be remembered as the Lance Armstrong of golf. Hear the interview above.
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Woods will be remembered as the Lance Armstrong of golf....hehe
 
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http://thegame730am.com/pga-golfer-dan-olsen-says-tiger-woods-is-armstrong-of-golf/



Woods will be remembered as the Lance Armstrong of golf....hehe
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Remember, Woods got those experimental "PRP" treatments from a doctor (Galea) that was caught importing HGH into the US. It is widely believed that these experimental treatments are used as a cover for ILLEGAL HGH treatments (both PRP, and HGH treatments raise the instance of IGF-1 in the body).

Rafael Nadal gets these "PRP" treatments on a regular basis (1 to 3 times a year).
 
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And the retraction gets major coverage, unlike the original story. It's been another good week for Nike - just do it. Driouch banned and soiling Farahs reputation, Woods being or not being golfs Armstrong.
 
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seems the accuser was given an option: retract or face the wrath of the Tiger and his lawyers.
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so he retracts the entire interview!

p'raps the most devastating episode in the d'affaire Armstrong embroglio pleonasm, was when youtube deleted <strikethru>, when youtubed pulled the XtraNormal clips from ReallyFakeFrankie on StrongArm's Michelob endorsment cats p!ss and STFU Levi and WeakWilledHorner.

so sads, much sads, so disappoints, much doleful, so sadness. why youtubes? why?
 
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Benotti69 said:
Want to run 9.58? Speak to Bolt's chemist Angel Hernandez

.......he believes EPO, insulin, testosterone, epitestosterone and adrenaline should all be legal in sport. He believes legalising substances that the body produces itself will enable the fairness and equality everyone supposedly wants, his words.


http://tenpercentorless.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/want-to-run-958-speak-to-bolts-chemist.html?m=1
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i agree with him actually. but i come from a different perspective. he was always enabling the cheating, or doping. i actually dont see it as cheating, so edit that. cheating <strikethru>


the SARMs an CJC-1295, and the testo and hgh releasing peptides, allowed a 6'4" or 6'5" sprinter get out of the blocks quick enough to use his stride length.

He should never have won a 100m, let along run a 9.5 clean. Bolt this is.

people now walk around the streets without going to a gym, but have muscular bodies like a full time sprinter swimmer who lifted weights in the gym 5 days a week. They have symmetrical physiques. The key tell, is the symmetry. Before these great drugs, you could usually tell from the muscle shapes, which sport and which exercises they were doing. Even if you work free weights in the gym, it is still difficult to get he symmetrical physique, even using free weights. you need to use the pulley machines to engage movements where you change the direction of the gravity movement.

but bingo, CJC will do this without even stepping into the gym. and it will be even more symmetrical, perfectly symmetrical, without stepping into a machine in the gym and creating unique movements. so you have the upper body symmetry of a 200 metre sprinter swimmer (not runner).
 
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Benotti69 said:
Want to run 9.58? Speak to Bolt's chemist Angel Hernandez

.......he believes EPO, insulin, testosterone, epitestosterone and adrenaline should all be legal in sport. He believes legalising substances that the body produces itself will enable the fairness and equality everyone supposedly wants, his words.


http://tenpercentorless.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/want-to-run-958-speak-to-bolts-chemist.html?m=1
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i agree with him actually. but i come from a different perspective. he was always enabling the cheating, or doping. i actually dont see it as cheating, so edit that. cheating <strikethru>


the SARMs an CJC-1295, and the testo and hgh releasing peptides, allowed a 6'4" or 6'5" sprinter get out of the blocks quick enough to use his stride length.

He should never have won a 100m, let along run a 9.5 clean. Bolt this is.

people now walk around the streets without going to a gym, but have muscular bodies like a full time sprinter swimmer who lifted weights in the gym 5 days a week. They have symmetrical physiques. The key tell, is the symmetry. Before these great drugs, you could usually tell from the muscle shapes, which sport and which exercises they were doing. Even if you work free weights in the gym, it is still difficult to get he symmetrical physique, even using free weights. you need to use the pulley machines to engage movements where you change the direction of the gravity movement.

but bingo, CJC will do this without even stepping into the gym. and it will be even more symmetrical, perfectly symmetrical, without stepping into a machine in the gym and creating unique movements. so you have the upper body symmetry of a 200 metre sprinter swimmer (not runner).
 
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/20/us-doping-bulgaria-weightlifting-idUSKBN0MG2CJ20150320

Another herd of Bulgarian weightlifters positive for steroids.

Eleven Bulgarian weightlifters, including three European champions, have tested positive for doping, the domestic weightlifting federation said on Friday.

The weightlifters tested positive for the banned anabolic steroid stanozolol two weeks ago at a training camp for next month's European championship in Tbilisi, Georgia.

Male lifters Asen Muradov, Ferdi Nazif, Vladimir Urumov, Stoyan Enev, Deyan Minchev, 2005 European champion Demir Demirev and 2014 European champions Ivan Markov and Ivaylo Filev failed the tests in Sofia, the federation said.

Female lifters Nadezhda-Mey Tuy Nguen, Maya Ivanova and Milka Maneva also tested positive.
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Nadezhda-Mey Tuy Nguen was born in July 2000, so she was on Stanozolol at 14.

"I'm shocked," said Bulgarian national team coach Ivan Ivanov. "Stanozolol is an archaic substance in weightlifting, no one is using it.

"My only explanation of its presence in the bodies of the weightlifters is that they had taken it through the food additives we are using for recovery."
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10 weightlifters were caught for Stanozolol in 2014, and an impressive 50 in 2013. It must have been at some point last year it became archaic...

http://www.iwf.net/anti-doping/sanctioned-athletes/
 
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These two articles on doping in boxing appear to be a couple of years old, but still very relevant. In fact, more so than ever with the upcoming blockbuster fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao. Highly recommended, lots more evidence of cover-ups of doping by sports promoters. And Tygart does not come out of this looking good at all.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxin ... s-part-one
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxin ... s-part-two

On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.

More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).
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The article goes on to point out that not long after that, Mayweather settled a defamation suit brought against him by Pacquiao for claiming Manny doped. The implication is that he settled, allegedly for more than Pacquiao originally asked, because he didn’t want the positive test results to be made public.

Three years ago, Victor Conte declared, “Boxing’s testing program is beyond a joke. It’s worthless. The loopholes are so big that you could drive a Mack truck through them. Many of the people who are supposed to be regulating this don’t want to know.” Now Conte says, “In some respects, things have gotten worse.”
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In a clean world, fighters don’t get older, heavier and faster at the same time, but that’s what’s happening in boxing. Improved performances at an advanced age are becoming common. Fighters at age 35 are outperforming what they could do when they were 30.
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It should be noted that age 29, Pacquiao jumped three weight classes, from 130 to 147, in eight months. He proceeded to dominate at 147, and even a catchweight fight at 150, till he was 33. He’s now 36, and while he has declined a little, he still dominates most of his opponents. As does Mayweather at age 38.

USADA CEO Travis Tygart also declined to be interviewed for this article and instructed that questions be addressed to USADA’s media relations manager, Annie Skinner. On November 2nd, this writer sent a series of preliminary questions to Ms. Skinner. There was no response.
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In seeking out the truth behind the aforementioned matters, this writer interviewed dozens of participants and observers. Two people of note declined to be interviewed.

Richard Schaefer [CEO of Golden Boy Promotions at the time] sent a November 1st email that read in part, “We are trying to do something positive and yet it seems that media and others are attacking us. It would be easy for us to do nothing just like all other promoters. But by trying to support the fighters’ desire for additional testing, we are getting criticized.”

Beyond that, Schaefer chose not to discuss the issues involved. Instead, his email referenced my relationships with Dr. Margaret Goodman and Maxboxing’s own Gabriel Montoya and stated, “I consider you a friend and really don’t want this Margaret Goodman, Gabriel Montoya vs. Golden Boy witch hunt to affect our relationship. I have my opinion about Margaret and Gabriel, and you have yours. I respect your opinion, and I hope you respect mine.”

Dr. Goodman was once chief ringside physician for the Nevada State Athletic Commission. She is now president and board chairperson of a drug-testing organization known as VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency).The drug tests on Lamont Peterson and Andre Berto [fighters promoted by GBP] that came back positive were carried out under the supervision of VADA.
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Richard Schaefer was livid at the way in which drug testing for Peterson-Khan II unfolded. Golden Boy was to have promoted the fight, and he felt that VADA should have notified him as soon as Peterson’s “A” sample tested positive.

Margaret Goodman says that, after Peterson’s “A” sample tested positive, she asked Lamont’s attorney (Jeff Fried) whether there was an agreement between Peterson and Golden Boy that authorized VADA to release the “A” test results to the promoter. Fried told her that no such authorization existed.
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As a postscript, the Peterson camp later claimed that Lamont had tested positive because of the surgical implantation of “testosterone pellets” to correct a testosterone deficiency known as hypogonadism.

That led Ryan Connolly to observe that more than a few elite athletes suffer from hypogonadism and note, “This may seem odd since these athletes are physical specimens. How can they be so muscular and fit but have natural testosterone production deficiencies at a higher rate than ordinary people? The dirty little secret is not necessarily that these athletes are lying about their hypogonadism. The dirty little secret is the likely cause of the hypogonadism in the first place - past anabolic steroid abuse.”
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Same as baseball’s ARod, who actually had a TUE for testosterone.

Berto later told RingTvOnline, “To all of my fans who have been supportive, you know, everybody who knows me, they know that everything that I’ve always accomplished has just been through hard work. And when it comes to the positive test, that was just a situation that was unfortunate. It was a situation that didn’t get properly explained to the public on what it was and what caused it. I believe that’s what really made an uproar about everything. You know, like I’ve said, I’ve never been a cheater. Never have and never will. I’ve never injected anything in any type of situation at all.”
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On May 22nd, Arnold Joseph, counsel for Golden Boy, sent a letter to Goodman stating Golden Boy’s intention to sue VADA for not notifying the promoter that Peterson’s “A” sample had tested positive, a failure that Joseph claimed was magnified by VADA reporting the “B” sample positive to the Nevada State Athletic Commission and not to Golden Boy.

To date, no lawsuit has been filed. But three days later, Golden Boy terminated a column on medical issues that Goodman had written monthly for The Ring magazine (now owned by Golden Boy) since 2004.
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At the same time Golden Boy was attacking Margaret Goodman, it also took aim at Gabriel Montoya.

Montoya, as previously noted, has written a number of articles on the use of PEDs in boxing. On May 20, 2012, a source with extensive knowledge in the area of drug testing told him he believed Floyd Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for performance-enhancing drugs and that, in each instance, the test results had been covered up by Golden Boy and USADA.

Montoya did what a responsible journalist is supposed to do. He began to question people in boxing and the world of PED testing about the rumors. On May 23rd, he received a letter from Jeffrey Spitz (an attorney for Golden Boy).

Montoya says that the Spitz letter mischaracterized the nature of his investigation. There was no mistaking the fact that the letter accused him of making false and defamatory statements with regard to Golden Boy and threatened legal action against him.

“There was an earlier time when Golden Boy wouldn’t credential me for its fights because I sent out some tweets that Oscar didn’t like,” Montoya recounts. “But I spoke with Schaefer and we worked past that. Then I started looking into the issue of Floyd’s drug tests. I got the threatening letter from Spitz, which I posted on Maxboxing. And I was banned again from Golden Boy fights.”
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In mid-May, Winky Wright was preparing to fight Peter Quillin in a June 2nd bout promoted by Golden Boy at the Home Depot Center in Carson, California.

“Everybody kept popping up positive for all this stuff,” Wright told Montoya. “Boxing isn’t always a fair game. I figured I should get this [testing] too. So I called Golden Boy and said, ‘Why we ain’t doing it?’ They was like ‘Uh, etcetera, etcetera, this and this and that, and someone didn’t want to pay.’ I said ‘Okay; I’m going to pay for it. I just want to play on the same field.’”

Wright and Quillin entered into a May 21, 2012 contract with Golden Boy and USADA pursuant to which USADA was to provide drug testing services in conjunction with their fight…

On or about May 23rd, USADA collected blood and urine samples from Quillin. Wright gave samples on May 24th.

“They came to my house at six in the morning,” Winky recalls. “They took urine, blood, everything.”

Then, without warning, Wright was told that the testing was off.

“I think it was like two days later,” Winky told Gabriel Montoya. “Golden Boy called and told Damian [Ramirez, Wright’s manager], and Damian told me. I don’t understand it. All I’m asking is, ‘How do you take urine and take blood and then, all of sudden, you say you aren’t going to test it?’ Then they tried to make up an excuse and say they wanted to teach us. There ain’t nothing to teach. They took blood. They told us we would take a test and either come up positive or negative. That’s it. All I want to know is, are we playing on the same field? So my lawyer called and asked for it to be tested and they told him they threw it out. They told my attorney they threw it out. That’s crazy. Why would they throw it out? They just finished [taking samples] and they’re going to throw it out already? Does this sound crazy? We gave samples. Let’s test that and let me see the result. They threw it out. I just don’t understand that.”
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Erik Morales tested positive for clenbuterol prior to a fight, but the fight went on:

Dan Rafael of ESPN.com spoke with two sources and wrote, “The reason the fight has not been called off, according to one of the sources, is because Morales’s ‘A’ sample tested positive but the results of the ‘B’ sample test likely won’t be available until after the fight. ‘[USADA] said it could be a false positive,’ one of the sources with knowledge of the disclosure said. ‘But from what I understand, they won’t know until the test on the ‘B’ sample comes back. That probably won’t be until after the fight.’”
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Then, on Friday (one day before the scheduled fight), Keith Idec revealed on BoxingScene.com that samples had been taken from Morales on at least three occasions. Final results from the samples taken on October 17th were not in yet. But both the “A” and “B” samples taken from Morales on October 3rd and October 10th had tested positive for Clenbuterol. In other words, Morales had tested positive for Clenbuterol four times.
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Morales later used the contaminated meat argument. Since he is Mexican, and I believe trains in that country, that is certainly a possible reason. But I don't think he ever presented evidence supporting this, or was asked to do so.

Since the Morales incident, people in the PED-testing community have begun to question the curious role played in boxing by USADA. When someone hears “USADA testing,” the assumption is that it’s legitimate. In that light, the reports that Erik Morales’s “A” and “B” samples tested positive for Clenbuterol on two occasions without notification to the New York State Athletic Commission are extremely troubling.

Don Catlin founded the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory in 1982 and is one of the founders of modern drug testing in sports.

“USADA should not enter into a contract that doesn’t call for it to report positive test results to the appropriate governing body.” Catlin states. “If it’s true that USADA reported the results [in the Morales case] to Golden Boy and not to the governing state athletic commission, that’s a recipe for deception.”
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USADA seems to have one set of rules for testing Olympic athletes and another set of rules when it tests fighters for Golden Boy.

“It looks to me like USADA and Golden Boy are making up the rules as they go along,” says Victor Conte. “One of the things that enables them to do it is that there’s no transparency to USADA’s testing for any of the fighters. What drugs are they testing for? What tests have been performed? What were the results? Why is Travis Tygart doing this?”
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California then turned 180 degrees and, without a full hearing, licensed Andre Berto for a November 24th fight (to be promoted by Golden Boy) against Robert Guerrero, despite the fact that Berto tested positive for Norandrosterone in May of this year. The explanation given by commission personnel was that Berto’s positive drug tests were administered by VADA and not by the commission itself.

“How can they not recognize VADA?” Margaret Goodman asks. “Our program is in accord with WADA protocols. Our scientific director was recommended to us by WADA’s medical chief. We use internationally-recognized sample collectors. We even use the same laboratory [the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory] that the California commission uses.”
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Benotti69 said:
Want to run 9.58? Speak to Bolt's chemist Angel Hernandez

.......he believes EPO, insulin, testosterone, epitestosterone and adrenaline should all be legal in sport. He believes legalising substances that the body produces itself will enable the fairness and equality everyone supposedly wants, his words.


http://tenpercentorless.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/want-to-run-958-speak-to-bolts-chemist.html?m=1
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There isn't actually any existing link between bolt and memo so you shouldn't call him bolts chemist unless you come across some sort of evidence for it.
 
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The Hitch said:
There isn't actually any existing link between bolt and memo so you shouldn't call him bolts chemist unless you come across some sort of evidence for it.
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it doesn't really go beyond rumors.
Victor Conte ‏@VictorConte
Alex Ariza saying publicly that Angel "Memo" Heredia works with Jamaica's Usain Bolt could possibly become a huge story
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this is what Ariza said:
As a matter of fact, I didn't even know the guy's [Heredia's] name until it was brought to my attention that there was people from Usain Bolt's training camp training him
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http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11120.html
 
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A story from the world of international federations and weightlifting

Doping as a money machine

The present: The IWF (International Weightlifting Federation) maintains a practice that is known to me for no other world governing body. It has developed Ajan from the pharmaceutical culture in the lifter division a lucrative business model by doping penalties collected by the national associations.

This is legal in the world of Olympic sports - but with the lifters also highly dubious, because located partly in the orbit of AJANS moderately transparent financial transactions.

In the period between March 2009 and the end of 2012, it is clear from the straight national associations submitted four-year balance sheet, the IWF earned on doping fraud officially $ 3.1 million, more than they spent on testing, analysis and so-called educational programs.

The first case costs a National Association $ 5,000; from three or more dopers per year it will be really expensive, from $ 50,000 upwards.
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http://www.jensweinreich.de/2013/05/18/ ... ingkultur/ (German)
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... gkultur%2F (google translate)
 
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