Doping in Soccer/Football

[gooner]

Another article on the case:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35500697

Thanks.

That's a more detailed article.

 

[beatthatrat]

Another article on the case:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35500697

Thanks.

That's a more detailed article.

This quote from that BBC article really highlights how messed up the effects of these PEDs can be:
A number of papers also recall previous allegations of "systematic, involuntary" doping, after the children of a number of players in the national team which reached the 1982 and 1986 World Cups were born with severe disabilities.

It would also lead you to question what the more successful nations were up to if lowly Algeria were taking that kinda stuff.

 

[mjreck]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/14/said-and-done-jerome-valcke-beyond-reproach

Not doping related, but funny article on the general corruption involved in the game.

 

[blackcat]

Re:

Blamed on a moustache-growing cream.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1033947/fifa-files-appeal-to-cas-as-it-seeks-to-increase-south-korean-footballers-doping-ban

dirty sanchez?

 

[gooner]

Staggering.

Only eight drugs tests have been conducted in Scottish football during the last nine months with none in the last three, BBC Sport has learned.

But the Scottish Football Association, who does not fund any testing, says football in Scotland is "clean".

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35776618

 

[sniper]

Staggering.

Only eight drugs tests have been conducted in Scottish football during the last nine months with none in the last three, BBC Sport has learned.

But the Scottish Football Association, who does not fund any testing, says football in Scotland is "clean".

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35776618

good spot.
sums up the problems nicely, both the lack of testing and the governing body's preemptive denial.

 

[Jacques (7 ch)]

Staggering.

Only eight drugs tests have been conducted in Scottish football during the last nine months with none in the last three, BBC Sport has learned.

But the Scottish Football Association, who does not fund any testing, says football in Scotland is "clean".

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35776618

good spot.
sums up the problems nicely, both the lack of testing and the governing body's preemptive denial.

The results are hardly suspicious ... Unless you think Celtic losing/ Aberdeen winning the league is suspicious? Certainly the international team's performance is 'within 1 SD of the norm'.

 

[gooner]

Staggering.

Only eight drugs tests have been conducted in Scottish football during the last nine months with none in the last three, BBC Sport has learned.

But the Scottish Football Association, who does not fund any testing, says football in Scotland is "clean".

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35776618

good spot.
sums up the problems nicely, both the lack of testing and the governing body's preemptive denial.

The results are hardly suspicious ... Unless you think Celtic losing/ Aberdeen winning the league is suspicious? Certainly the international team's performance is 'within 1 SD of the norm'.

It's easy to deny something when you're not testing for it. Just because the league and national team aren't of the highest standard doesn't mean that no doping goes on.

 

[gooner]

Questions asked about melodium use in Russian football.

The words about its popularity were confirmed by a football player. “Almost every doctor from the former Soviet Union included mildronate [Another name for meldonium] in the complex of drugs used during training camps and competitions,” Evgeniy Kirisov, who currently plays for Luch-Energiya in the FNL, told Russian Football News.

I must say I didn't know all the Spartak players back then were found to be using the same substance as Titov.

Doping scandals are a rare thing in football, which would make it a big scandal if it happened, which it has done in the past. On November 15, 2003, Spartak legend Yegor Titov took a doping test after the Euro 2004 qualification play-off game between Russia and Wales. His blood sample was positive for bromantane, so Titov was banned from football for one year. In 2005, Russian journalist Igor Rabiner published an investigation into the case, where he revealed that all Spartak Moscow players were given Bromantane in 2003, although in the end it didn’t help much as the Red-Whites finished tenth in the league, the worst result for Spartak in Russian history. The players, who later decided to get the truth out, complained of feeling unwell while taking the prohibited pills.

Melodium stays in the system quite long.

So, how many doctors of Russian football teams gave their footballers doping? How many of them gave meldonium, missing the moment when it was prohibited, as Sharapova did? It is obvious that even the most inattentive man will now notice the hype. But how long does it take to get it out of the system?

“Up to 3 months. It depends on the course,” Eduard Bezuglov, a doctor of the Russia national football team, told Russian Football News. It means that even if athletes stop using meldonium now, it could be in their blood until summer. Footballers participating in international competitions are in the firing line.

Zenit is the only Russian club still in Europe, but it is very unlikely that such a club would continue to use a medicine after a warning made by WADA last year. Even Spartak doesn’t make such mistakes. According to Spartak’s doctor Mikhail Vartapetov, they had been monitoring WADA news and found out about the prohibition of meldonium last autumn.

What about the national team of Russia, which is going to participate in Euro 2016 this June? The latest squad consisted of players from 10 different teams. Can we be sure that none of them were involved in some illegal improvement of performance like Titov was?

“There will be no problems with that in the national team. All players were warned in advance,” Bezuglov told Russian Football News. He also mentioned that none of the Russian football players he has worked with have used it because of its “futility”.

http://russianfootballnews.com/the-sharapova-case-is-russian-football-next/

The same website on their twitter have said it's been reported FC Rostov bought the substance last summer.

https://twitter.com/RusFootballNews/status/708320573995278336

 

[Benotti69]

A quote from Guardian Journalist Michael Butler

Bayern V Juve, tonight

64 min: I’m surprised to see this but Juventus are still running as hard as they did in the first half. They surely must run out of steam soon.

somethings don't change.........

 

[May0maniac]

Just like Trek and Cancellara Juve is working with the Mapei center/Mapei Sports, Leicester is also working with them and apparently Ranieri is very happy about the results.
Source:
http://www.calcioefinanza.it/2016/02/25/centro-mapei-leicester-juventus-olgiate/

 

[sniper]

Re:

Just like Trek and Cancellara Juve is working with the Mapei center/Mapei Sports, Leicester is also working with them and apparently Ranieri is very happy about the results.
Source:
http://www.calcioefinanza.it/2016/02/25/centro-mapei-leicester-juventus-olgiate/

interesting.

The Mapei centre has such a long long history of doping.

And then there's people on twitter talking about "the fight against doping".
What *** fight? If labs like the Lausanne Lab and centres like the Mapei Centre are still up and running, producing one miracle after the other.
And then guys like Wegelius, a *** Aldo Sassi protege, with a *** 50+ exemption, hired by Jonathan "dedicated my life to antidoping" Vaughters.
Or Cioni, another Sassi protege, another one with a 50+ exemption, hired by Team ZTP Sky.

If journos can't do the math on this new clean generation, what hope is there?

 

[Archibald]

Re:

A quote from Guardian Journalist Michael Butler

Bayern V Juve, tonight

64 min: I’m surprised to see this but Juventus are still running as hard as they did in the first half. They surely must run out of steam soon.

somethings don't change.........

certainly ran out of steam... 4 goals from Bayern from the 73rd min...

 

[gooner]

Re: Re:

Just like Trek and Cancellara Juve is working with the Mapei center/Mapei Sports, Leicester is also working with them and apparently Ranieri is very happy about the results.
Source:
http://www.calcioefinanza.it/2016/02/25/centro-mapei-leicester-juventus-olgiate/

interesting.

The Mapei centre has such a long long history of doping.

And then there's people on twitter talking about "the fight against doping".
What **** fight? If labs like the Lausanne Lab and centres like the Mapei Centre are still up and running, producing one miracle after the other.
And then guys like Wegelius, a **** Aldo Sassi protege, with a **** 50+ exemption, hired by Jonathan "dedicated my life to antidoping" Vaughters.
Or Cioni, another Sassi protege, another one with a 50+ exemption, hired by Team ZTP Sky.

If journos can't do the math on this new clean generation, what hope is there?

Sassuolo have been doing nicely in Serie A the last couple of years.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

...
Sassuolo have been doing nicely in Serie A the last couple of years.

yep, and with the help of Mapei.
http://www.sassuolocalcio.it/articles/?id=8/mapei-sport
Good find.

It's scary to think that if Juve are with Mapei, and if Mapei helps Leicester win the Premier League, how did Juve get beat by Bayern mainly on physical grounds?
What kind of doping are they doing at Bayern?
Technically I think Bayern are still poor, compared to teams like Barca and even Juve.
Bayern is all about physique/endurance.
Even when they won the champions league in 2013, it was down to physique. They were technically poorer than Borrussia Dortmund that year.

You gotta wonder why English and Italian teams aren't really able to close the gap on Barca-Madrid-Bayern.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

A quote from Guardian Journalist Michael Butler

Bayern V Juve, tonight

64 min: I’m surprised to see this but Juventus are still running as hard as they did in the first half. They surely must run out of steam soon.

somethings don't change.........

certainly ran out of steam... 4 goals from Bayern from the 73rd min...

Or Bayerns half time 'preparations took 25mins to 'kick in'.....

Juve had it in the bag till last min goal made extra time.

 

[May0maniac]

Mapei (not just Mapei Sport) is also the main sponsor of Sassuolo, they have the biggest sponsorship deal in Serie A worth €22m, so it's not a surprise that they are also working with Mapei Sport, for me the fact that Mapei also working with Juve and Leicester is more interesting.

 

[sniper]

Re:

Mapei (not just Mapei Sport) is also the main sponsor of Sassuolo, they have the biggest sponsorship deal in Serie A worth €22m, so it's not a surprise that they are also working with Mapei Sport, for me the fact that Mapei also working with Juve and Leicester is more interesting.

them working with Leicester was a brilliant find.
it explains a lot.

 

[The Hitch]

Bayern basically outdoped juventus.

It was kind of like froome vs contador. Old generation dopers who have been caught and faced discipline, facing the untainted new gen dopers.

 

[kingjr]

There was a graphic midway through the 2nd half that showed Juventus having run 4 km more than Bayern up to that point.

 

[blackcat]

anyone else noticed the new football body is about ~3% less heavy than the last decade, but actually may carry 1% more functional muscle/tissue. waist is smaller, forearms and arms, noticably leaner, the legs leaner, now look like a stallion or greyhound is litheness and supple(ness).

why?

how did I come to ~3%? You wannn[sic] underwater weighing and weight scales weighing like Coyle and the science in a peer review journal science science?

dont have that weight and evidence. I just have my own eyes, they look much leaner, no more the Danish players of the past few decades who were shortish with thick tree trunk legs. The era of tree trunk legs in fudbol, is OVER!

 

[gooner]

WADA appeal to CAS over the leniency of Fred's ban.

http://news.yahoo.com/wada-appeals-cas-over-doping-ban-brazils-fred-143935708.html

 

[slowspoke]

Re:

anyone else noticed the new football body is about ~3% less heavy than the last decade, but actually may carry 1% more functional muscle/tissue. waist is smaller, forearms and arms, noticably leaner, the legs leaner, now look like a stallion or greyhound is litheness and supple(ness).

why?

how did I come to ~3%? You wannn[sic] underwater weighing and weight scales weighing like Coyle and the science in a peer review journal science science?

dont have that weight and evidence. I just have my own eyes, they look much leaner, no more the Danish players of the past few decades who were shortish with thick tree trunk legs. The era of tree trunk legs in fudbol, is OVER!

My eyes say differently.

 

[Benotti69]

football’s dark past and present and a load of Red Bull. Alan Moore discusses performance enhancing drugs and the some examples of their association with football. German football was always rotten, it was/is an open secret.

http://backpagefootball.com/hippo-room-footballs-dark-past-present-load-red-bull/97672/

 

[The Hitch]

nice find that