Doping in Soccer/Football

[hrotha]

Apparently, AS will publish tomorrow allegations by former Real Sociedad (2007-2009) president Iñaki Badiola that the team used slush funds to purchase doping products for 6 years (presumably 2001-2007).

 

[blackcat]

Apparently, AS will publish tomorrow allegations by former Real Sociedad (2007-2009) president Iñaki Badiola that the team used slush funds to purchase doping products for 6 years (presumably 2001-2007).

got the dates right

statute of limitations.

 

[blackcat]

"We believe in the treatment Jermain has been having and there is no danger that he will make the injury worse by what we have done," insisted Villas-Boas. "It is a technique that we have been using since the beginning of the season. It is not common but does happen from club to club

"You take out the blood from any part of the body and spin it around. The plasma comes to the top of the blood and you are able to inject it back into the body and that is the part of the blood that heals injuries. It accelerates the recovery process.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...its-to-jermain-defoe-'blood-spinning'?cc=5739

you mean, Tom Danielsons coach Rick Crawford?

 

[slowspoke]

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/02/04/primera/1359939333_219986.html

Even with a dodgy Google translate version, it's pretty damning. Secret slush fund for Fuentes, names players (Alonso NOOOO!)

A proper translation would be fantastic however....

 

[The Hitch]

Alonso. His name.isn't in that article. Nor does a search into google news reveal anything. Considering a Spanish international football player would be bigger than Armstrong i see no indication that he will be named.

 

[Alphabet]

Chelsea also used blood spinning to heal injuries (when Villas-Boas was at the club as a backroom assistant) extensively, so I reckon he got the idea from them. Once they got away with it, it was only going to be a matter of time until other clubs tried it.

 

[hrotha]

got the dates right

statute of limitations.

It's not a question of SOL, but of the years before Badiola's presidency. It's not the first time he speaks out against doping within Real Sociedad, and word in the street is the players wanted him gone because he had put an end to the doping program.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Alonso also did very well with Liverpool so .....

 

[Benotti69]

Chelsea also used blood spinning to heal injuries (when Villas-Boas was at the club as a backroom assistant) extensively, so I reckon he got the idea from them. Once they got away with it, it was only going to be a matter of time until other clubs tried it.

I heard this the other day listening to commentary on the radio.

Football aint clean. We wont find out how dirty till a player does a Landis and their is too much money in the game for that to happen.

 

[Frosty]

Not doping related but match fixing

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21319807

 

[coinneach]

Apparently, AS will publish tomorrow allegations by former Real Sociedad (2007-2009) president Iñaki Badiola that the team used slush funds to purchase doping products for 6 years (presumably 2001-2007).

This is a good time to bury bad news in Spain...all eyes are on the prime minister just now, who looks shiftier than Fagan & Rassmussen combined!

 

[neineinei]

Bjørn Tore Kvarme (RSOC 2001-2004) says he never saw or heard anything and thinks he was tested 2-3 times a year.

- We could be tested at any time after both matches and training. I am so surprised if anyone would take the risk. It would have devastating consequences if it were revealed.

http://translate.google.com/transla...all/ligaer/spania/artikkel.php?artid=10119843

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Apparently, AS will publish tomorrow allegations by former Real Sociedad (2007-2009) president Iñaki Badiola that the team used slush funds to purchase doping products for 6 years (presumably 2001-2007).

Picked up by the hate mail but not by any of the other British press.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ims-drug-use-occurred-club.html#axzz2JsL8cj7P

It would be pandemonium if it ever came out that Fabrice Muamba or Marc Vivian Foe had ever used EPO or blood doping.

 

[Alphabet]

I'm not so sure on Muamba (can strokes be caused by EPO?) but all these sudden cardiac arrests we're seeing- like Foe's, Puerta's, Dani Jarquez's etc., I can see parallels to early EPO use in cycling in the 80s with all those Dutch and Belgian cyclists that passed away.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

I'm not so sure on Muamba (can strokes be caused by EPO?) but all these sudden cardiac arrests we're seeing- like Foe's, Puerta's, Dani Jarquez's etc., I can see parallels to early EPO use in cycling in the 80s with all those Dutch and Belgian cyclists that passed away.

Yes, EPO can cause strokes. At the risk of bringing in the teenagers, Contador's stroke has been attributed to EPO usage.

 

[Jaco0505]

Former Real Sociedad player (2001-2004) Bjørn Tore Kvarme says in an interview with VG that he got tested 2-3 times a year. Anti-doping in football is a joke

 

[sniper]

José Luis Astiazarán, RSOC president from 2001-2005, now president of the Spanish Profi-Liga rolleyes, denies allegations.

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/sonst/e...ittel-von-fuentes-gekauft-haben-a-881381.html

 

[sniper]

This is a good time to bury bad news in Spain...all eyes are on the prime minister just now, who looks shiftier than Fagan & Rassmussen combined!

Rajoy has gone into Lance-mode (stonehard denial of well-documented fraud). Perhaps he sees an opportunity here to bury his corruption under a large-scale soccer doping scandal.

As far as I'm able to tell, sport, especially soccer, is the principal binding material of the Spanish nation at present, and you sense that Spain at this point (with unemployment rate at a record height, the government undressed) would have a hard time coping with a nation-wide doping scandal.

But even if many in Spain would love to cover this up, there is still the international press who seem to smell blood and unwilling to hold back following the Lance-charade.

 

[Descender]

You all are just jealous of Spain's sporting successes...

 

[sniper]

You all are just jealous of Spain's sporting successes...

of course you're only joking, but the truth is that it would be quite bitter and unjust if Spain became the scapegoat in (viz. the single target of) a soccer PED scandal.

 

[Descender]

Surely it's only a coincidence, but I couldn't help but raise an eyebrow when I read Xabi Alonso has been pulled out of the Spanish team before the friendly against Uruguay. That despite the fact he played the whole match for Real Madrid on Saturday and didn't seem to have any physical problem.

 

[hrotha]

of course you're only joking, but the truth is that it would be quite bitter and unjust if Spain became the scapegoat in (viz. the single target of) a soccer PED scandal.

It's also "unfair" in a sense that Real, a small team who won exactly zilch, would be the first (only?) ones to be exposed, but you gotta start somewhere, and all of them willingly took the risk. So screw them.

 

[the asian]

I really don't think in these times of Economic desperation the Spanish Govt will allow their National team & Barca/Real getting exposed.

We'll have to do with relatively small fish like Real Sociedad and maybe Athletic Bilbao being exposed.

 

[sniper]

Surely it's only a coincidence, but I couldn't help but raise an eyebrow when I read Xabi Alonso has been pulled out of the Spanish team before the friendly against Uruguay. That despite the fact he played the whole match for Real Madrid on Saturday and didn't seem to have any physical problem.

I noticed that too. Could be a coincidence of course. The German squad just had a couple of cancellations of players who played the whole game in the weekend. But an interesting coincidence in any case.

It's also "unfair" in a sense that Real, a small team who won exactly zilch, would be the first (only?) ones to be exposed, but you gotta start somewhere, and all of them willingly took the risk. So screw them.

true.

I really don't think in these times of Economic desperation the Spanish Govt will allow their National team & Barca/Real getting exposed.

Agree, though you're not counting with the national and international press, who might smell blood and decide to go digging.

 

[Frosty]

I think quite a few players tend to withdraw from friendly international matches with injuries that may not actually exist. Gives them a rest and, if they are good, can be guaranteed of their place when the proper competition starts.