Doping inspector backs Armstrong

[Sprocket01]

...Because they know he doped.
Previous Director Leblanc admitted, we have been "fooled".

I doubt anyone would stop him from taking part in the tour if it came down to it.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

.....

So - you agree he doped in 1999 - and had a small Blood Transfusion this year.

So - he is a doper.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I doubt anyone would stop him from taking part in the tour if it came down to it.

I actually agree with you on this - given Armstrongs reputation for litigation and intimidation.

 

[Sprocket01]

Do you think Ullrich was clean up until 2006?

I don't know, but his main problem is he just couldn't match LA on power to weight ratio. Interesting article on how they managed LA's weight through the season...

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/8514206/page/2/

 

[Sprocket01]

So - you agree he doped in 1999 -

The truth is we don't know, but I've always said someone would have to make the case why he would not have doped in 99 rather than he did dope, since he'd be an idiot not to do what everyone else was doing and not be competitive.

and had a small Blood Transfusion this year.

No as I said I think that unlikely. But the point is, even if he did, it wasn't EPO.

 

[poupou]

EPO was standard protocal for GC back in the 1990s - there was no test. It by no way means he used EPO all the way through when their was regular testing for these substances. In his later tour wins he did less attacks and became more strategic - I'm pretty sure he played it clean for the most part.

Since Lance had no big drop in performance and power output since he doped with EPO along the 1999 TDF, we can only conclude that he doped on other TDF.

His last TDF was done with less help because of blood controls that limits the amount of transfusion.
I predict that Lance will stop to publish his test results to have more free-room with the variation of his blood values.

 

[poupou]

Even if you think he used EPO he would unlikely have done so for all of his tour podium wins - the allegation in the last one, for instance, was a small blood tranfusion. It doesn't explain his legendary abilities.

His only legendary ability is to lie with a such facility even on a podium when people where just waiting smart words as does a tennis player receiving a trophy.

 

[Ferminal]

I don't know, but his main problem is he just couldn't match LA on power to weight ratio. Interesting article on how they managed LA's weight through the season...

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/8514206/page/2/

Yes poor old Jan, needed a few more disco biscuits to keep his weight down!

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I don't know, but his main problem is he just couldn't match LA on power to weight ratio. Interesting article on how they managed LA's weight through the season...

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/8514206/page/2/

Are you trying the ruin the guy?

Dont go showing Lances secrets on a public forum - all the other Pro's might realise that you have to keep your weight down to do well in the mountains.
Imagine what fattys like Schelk and Contador could do with that info?

 

[Sprocket01]

Since Lance had no big drop in performance and power output since he doped with EPO along the 1999 TDF, we can only conclude that he doped on other TDF.

His last TDF was done with less help because of blood controls that limits the amount of transfusion.
I predict that Lance will stop to publish his test results to have more free-room with the variation of his blood values.

Well I don't trust these power comparions that people throw around. They are very unreliable. But I'm sure he improved the effectiveness of his training.

 

[Ferminal]

Well I don't trust these power comparions that people throw around. They are very unreliable. But I'm sure he improved the effectiveness of his training.

I think he was still recovering from cancer in 1999, as evidenced by his TUE.

 

[Mongol_Waaijer]

I doubt anyone would stop him from taking part in the tour if it came down to it.

I would.

Any enlightened person who puts ethics before money and publicity should.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

.... But the point is, even if he did, it wasn't EPO.

Maybe he was concious of his weight and used EPO 'Lite'?

 

[Race Radio]

And it happens again...... The troll pops up and posts every *** thing he can think of in order to get others to pay attention to him

 

[Sprocket01]

Maybe he was concious of his weight and used EPO 'Lite'?

Maybe. We don't know.

 

[Race Radio]

I guess that I ride with a majority of a minority then. I know some think he has and continues to use EPO - I know a lot more that either do not care enough to have seriously considered the matter OR actually believe it is entirely possible that he road clean, at least since 2000 (note: I am not riding with uneducated morons either since I suspect you will probably think that).

You and your friends are not the average cycling fan.

Europe is the home of the sport and that is where vast majority of the fans of the sport are. Viewer ship and race attendance in the US is a small fraction of what it is in Europe.

Bob Roll said that average Belgium 8 year old knows more about cycling then any American fan. Something this forum proves daily.

 

[RTMcFadden]

Maybe he was concious of his weight and used EPO 'Lite'?

I thought it was portion control.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I thought it was portion control.

Hmmm.....little but often, you're probably right!

 

[CentralCaliBike]

The vast majority of cycling fans can't tell the difference between thinking and knowing.

A thousand years ago everyone knew the world was flat - a statement with a few errors I admit. To make it much more accurate I think you would have to say, a thousand years ago a majority of people thought the world was flat.

At least this is my impression of the difference between thinking and knowing.

 

[CentralCaliBike]

Maybe he was concious of his weight and used EPO 'Lite'?

Pretty funny.

 

[CentralCaliBike]

You and your friends are not the average cycling fan.

Europe is the home of the sport and that is where vast majority of the fans of the sport are. Viewer ship and race attendance in the US is a small fraction of what it is in Europe.

Bob Roll said that average Belgium 8 year old knows more about cycling then any American fan. Something this forum proves daily.

I really like Bob Roll but I am sure that you do not believe everything he says - Bob usually is on the LA band wagon.

Quoting Bob Roll to as evidence that eight years olds in Europe know more than any American fan weakens your argument that people in Europe are more aware of doping practices than in the United States.

 

[Race Radio]

I really like Bob Roll but I am sure that you do not believe everything he says - Bob usually is on the LA band wagon.

Quoting Bob Roll to as evidence that eight years olds in Europe know more than any American fan weakens your argument that people in Europe are more aware of doping practices than in the United States.

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

All cycling pros have a curve. Since we are talking about indurain, have a looksee at his early career results.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Indurain

What Wiki doesnt report is his win in the Tour de l'Avenir in 1986.
Tour de l'Avenir - translates to the "the Tour of the future"- that win put him on the list of future champions.

Mig was riding both the Vuelta - which was in April - and Tours in his early years at the service of his team leader, Pedro Delgado.
In the late 80s he was made captain for the Vueltas - so the DNFs in the Vuelta were more alarming than his low placing in the Tours.

He appeared to be suffering from the pressures that the Spanish press had placed on him from his earlier performances.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm not convinced at all Armstrong doped this year - in fact I find it unlikely - but the allegation is that it was a relatively small blood tranfusion. His crit hardly changed so he certainly wasn't jacked out of his mind. We should be honest about this.

I think we can all agree that cheating is cheating, and that Armstrong doesn't deserve any of his podium spots from any of his tours. Surely you have to agree with that.

 

[Digger]

I don't know, but his main problem is he just couldn't match LA on power to weight ratio. Interesting article on how they managed LA's weight through the season...

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/8514206/page/2/

Someone, maybe the same people who framed Lance, put his blood in a doping clinic in 2006.
Although Ullrich did say that whoever can't put two and two together as regards what happens in professional cycling is beyond my help. Wonder what he was on about...strange...