DSK arrested

[lancaster]

safe to say that DSK has a diminished chance of being elected president.

there should be a very significant investigation into how this went so horribly wrong. (prosecutor, NYPD, political actions).

the whole affair has been a cluster****

 

[blutto]

Some more background:

IMF's change of heart (under DSK) published just days before his arrest.

Now, of course, a successor has been found and within a few days, the case against DSK breaks down.

...great article...thank you for pointing it out...combine that with the Sarkoczy(sp) issue and one could draw the conclusion that DSK got Spitzered(or Assanged)...

Cheers

blutto

 

[Merckx index]

I think it’s too early to say that anyone screwed up, other than the excessive bail and the house arrest, which I always thought was unwarranted. The woman’s credibility has been damaged to the point where it seems unlikely that DSK will be convicted of any crime—but that doesn’t mean he didn’t commit one. Rape as a crime does not depend on the character of the victim; even if, as now seems likely, she has associations with criminals and has lied in the past, it’s possible that she was raped. Criminals are themselves victims of crime all the time. And even if her diminished credibility persuades the DA to drop the case, DSK could still be liable for a civil suit.

Of course, one theory is that this was what the woman was angling for all along. IMO, the biggest problem with her story is that it now seems she did not report the incident immediately afterwards, but continued cleaning rooms, then at some later point called this guy in jail for his advice on what to do. This suggests that it could have been a consensual affair and she wondered if she could shake him down. But it could also be that she was reluctant to come forward and needed some reassuring words from someone she knew. Supposedly the conversation was recorded, but I have heard nothing to suggest that suing DSK for money was discussed. In either case, her actions at that time do not support the idea that DSK was set up. Unless some new evidence emerges, it sounds very much like this was a chance, unplanned encounter.

I understand that the deadline for filing as a Socialist candidate for President in France is less than two weeks. I wonder if there will be pressure on the DA to drop the charges by then, and if he doesn’t, whether DSK will go ahead and file, anyway, just to keep his options open. I assume a few polls will make it clear whether or not he still has a chance to win.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

The latest I'm now hearing is that she may be charged with perjury for lying to the GT.

Word also is that DSK's approval ratings are sharply up in France, so it wouldn't surprise me if he goes ahead and files.

Spitzered? Ironically, had he been in charge this likely never would have got this far. The guy was a schmuck and dipped his wick and got caught, but he was highly effective at his job. Just didn't think the FBI was as well.

 

[blutto]

...moving along in the Spitzered theme here is a quote that some may find interesting...

Those few who actually care about justice, not only for DSK and everyman, but also for the Greek, Spanish, Irish, and Portuguese people, can find comfort in the fact that apparently DSK had come to New York in order to speak with Nobel economist Joe Stiglitz about a more humane and democratic way to resolve the sovereign debt crisis in Europe than the one imposed by the private creditor banks.

.... is, as in the case of Spitzer, following the money a way to make sense of this mess?...

Cheers

blutto

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

...moving along in the Spitzered theme here is a quote that some may find interesting...

Those few who actually care about justice, not only for DSK and everyman, but also for the Greek, Spanish, Irish, and Portuguese people, can find comfort in the fact that apparently DSK had come to New York in order to speak with Nobel economist Joe Stiglitz about a more humane and democratic way to resolve the sovereign debt crisis in Europe than the one imposed by the private creditor banks.

.... is, as in the case of Spitzer, following the money a way to make sense of this mess?...

Sure. It is a conspiracy.

DSK is a dirtbag. He attempted to rape a reporter. He pressured a subordinate into sex. People that act like him are a magnet for sordid situations like this. Predators prey on the weak and those on the fringe of society. The prey often have credibility issues.

This did not require a black op by Sarkozy's secret hit team. It only required Sarkozy to put DSK in a situation where DSK would hurt himself. It is widely acknowledged that Sarkozy made DSK head of the IMF to get him out of the way. An ulterior motive may have been that DSK's well known sexual problem might cause a scandal and damage him. It did. DSK was involved in a sex scandal with a subordinate. Sarkozy probably never thought that DSK would be stupid enough to get himself involved in a rape scandal in the United States of all places.

People are also forgetting DSK's lies. His original story was that the rape could not have happened because he was somewhere else. The story then changed to consensual sex.

 

[blutto]

Sure. It is a conspiracy.

DSK is a dirtbag. He attempted to rape a reporter. He pressured a subordinate into sex. People that act like him are a magnet for sordid situations like this. Predators prey on the weak and those on the fringe of society. The prey often have credibility issues.

This did not require a black op by Sarkozy's secret hit team. It only required Sarkozy to put DSK in a situation where DSK would hurt himself. It is widely acknowledged that Sarkozy made DSK head of the IMF to get him out of the way. An ulterior motive may have been that DSK's well known sexual problem might cause a scandal and damage him. It did. DSK was involved in a sex scandal with a subordinate. Sarkozy probably never thought that DSK would be stupid enough to get himself involved in a rape scandal in the United States of all places.

People are also forgetting DSK's lies. His original story was that the rape could not have happened because he was somewhere else. The story then changed to consensual sex.

...a bit confused by your response...

...first we have a rolledeyes take on a conspiracy....then we have the statement...It only required Sarkozy to PUT DSK in a situation where he would hurt himself....

....gee but from I'm sitting that sure looks, as you so nicely pointed out,like the basis of a pretty neat little conspiracy....so do you think that maybe after Sarkozy PUT DSK into the right situation he might have said , what the heck, lets just go full monty and make sure the situation works as we planned...

...just a thought...

Cheers

blutto

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

...first we have a rolledeyes take on a conspiracy....then we have the statement...It only required Sarkozy to PUT DSK in a situation where he would hurt himself....

Putting DSK into a situation where he might shoot himself in the foot is hardly a conspiracy. In the list of positives and negatives that had to be considered to make DSK head of the IMF it could have been one of the positives, one of many. Or maybe it was not considered at all. It is a huge step to go from, perhaps, joking about DSK getting caught with his pants down in a foreign country to a team of Nazi frogmen ensaring DSK in a fake scandal.

 

[blutto]

Putting DSK into a situation where he might shoot himself in the foot is hardly a conspiracy. In the list of positives and negatives that had to be considered to make DSK head of the IMF it could have been one of the positives, one of many. Or maybe it was not considered at all. It is a huge step to go from, perhaps, joking about DSK getting caught with his pants down in a foreign country to a team of Nazi frogmen ensaring DSK in a fake scandal.

...Nazi frogmen?....gee I'm glad you brought that up because there are a few details here that may require something like Nazi frogmen or their modern equivalent to explain(see below)...

We will probably never know whether the maid thought the scheme up on her own or whether it came from Sarkozy’s operatives and their US allies. One indication that DSK’s political enemies are implicated is the fact, made public by the French press, that Sarkozy’s political team in France knew about DSK’s arrest before the NY police announced it. This fact did not stop the NY prosecutor and police from painting DSK as guilty in numerous public statements and in unethical if not illegal leaks to reporters.

....trying to square the circle that is outlined in the above quote is something I have to admit I have had some trouble doing( as in those frogmen must have awfully close to that action to alert the Sarkozy team within the timeframe within which they did )...would love to see your take on that....

Cheers

blutto

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

We will probably never know whether the maid thought the scheme up on her own or whether it came from Sarkozy’s operatives and their US allies.

We will probably never know whether aliens landed in Nebraska last night and anally probed a couple of dozen rubes. Personally, I will wait for evidence that it happened but you are free to believe whatever nutball conspiracy rubbish you want. Jesse Ventura will get right on it.

One indication that DSK’s political enemies are implicated is the fact, made public by the French press, that Sarkozy’s political team in France knew about DSK’s arrest before the NY police announced it.

People knew about it because a friend of someone who worked at the hotel twittered about it before he was arrested. We are not in the bronze age. People do not communicate with each other using smoke signals. Everyone is connected. When the police investigate a reported rape, everyone who knows about it sends the info to friends. It spreads outward from there. This really does not require Dr. Evil and his hairless cat plotting to take out the French presidential hopeful.

 

[blutto]

We will probably never know whether aliens landed in Nebraska last night and anally probed a couple of dozen rubes. Personally, I will wait for evidence that it happened but you are free to believe whatever nutball conspiracy rubbish you want. Jesse Ventura will get right on it.



People knew about it because a friend of someone who worked at the hotel twittered about it before he was arrested. We are not in the bronze age. People do not communicate with each other using smoke signals. Everyone is connected. When the police investigate a reported rape, everyone who knows about it sends the info to friends. It spreads outward from there. This really does not require Dr. Evil and his hairless cat plotting to take out the French presidential hopeful.

...thank you so very much for your insights into this matter...they have cleared up so many questions I had...

Cheers

blutto

 

[frenchfry]

Sure. It is a conspiracy.

DSK is a dirtbag. He attempted to rape a reporter. He pressured a subordinate into sex. People that act like him are a magnet for sordid situations like this. Predators prey on the weak and those on the fringe of society. The prey often have credibility issues.
...

This whole affair is a huge mess, but it is important not to forget what Damiano reminds us. DSK is a sexual predator and this is the main reason he got dragged into this situation.

Unfortunately all the good that had been done here in France by opening up the debate about sexual harassment may now be undone because when women come forward to signal sexual abuse they will be assumed to be lying by those who condone the "droit de cuissage".

DSK may or may not be a "victim" in this case, but he has left a trail of perturbed women behind wherever he has passed.

 

[blutto]

....seems like this affair may have just got a hair more of a mess...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/she_laid_low_as_da_paid_for_digs_8Udq6nhQaHaC4KOOfkctpI

Cheers

blutto

 

[Cobblestones]

I was told by a source that there was a good reason this girl was working the Sofitel. Keep in mind that she was unionized and there's definitely a pecking order who's going to get the gigs at the high-end places with the big tips. And a recent immigrant wouldn't get there so fast without some ... intervention.

This case is going to explode in so many faces, it's not even funny. We haven't even seen the beginning of it.

 

[Captain_Cavman]

Sure. It is a conspiracy.

...

Yeah, it is a conspiracy. And that is the most important thing.

What is strange is the utterly blatant nature of it. A warning to others? or a desperate move?

 

[Cobblestones]

Now a French journalist accuses DSK for attempted rape 9 years ago.

 

[Cobblestones]

Yeah, it is a conspiracy. And that is the most important thing.

What is strange is the utterly blatant nature of it. A warning to others? or a desperate move?

One could almost think that rape charges following presumably consensual sex is the new MO for inconvenient characters such as Julian Assange and DSK.

It probably still beats polonium poisoning. Barely.

 

[Le breton]

Now a French journalist accuses DSK for attempted rape 9 years ago.

If you google "Ardisson Banon DSK" you will find, among others this extract of a Feb 2007 talk show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK79FLXnLhI

 

[rhubroma]

Yeah, it is a conspiracy. And that is the most important thing.

What is strange is the utterly blatant nature of it. A warning to others? or a desperate move?

More than a conspiracy, I'd say a set-up.

The rape tale, in any case, always seemed far-fetched, pumped up, as at were, by a puritanical sentiment in the States.

If anything it demonstrates a gross error in judgment on the part of DSK.

PS: I thought the proper term these days was sexual "addict".

 

[blutto]

...this sordid affair cetainly will end up with quite a few victims....one, as illustated by the quotes below,may well be the US Justice system...

This incredible circus puts the US justice system on trial before the eyes of the world. The Wild West frontier arrest and treatment of DSK, the lynch-mob mood, the media orgy, and his public humiliation make the US look like a nasty third world state. Getting the scalp of a famous Frenchman, not justice, was the goal of US prosecutors

More important, the US prosecutors who allowed this circus to occur should be fired and sent to North Dakota. America's justice system is embarrassing and desperately needs to be elevated to civilized standards.

...the other victim may well be US/French relations if by chance DSK beats the much hated US toady Sarkozy in the next election...

Cheers

blutto

 

[usedtobefast]

...this sordid affair cetainly will end up with quite a few victims....one, as illustated by the quotes below,may well be the US Justice system...

This incredible circus puts the US justice system on trial before the eyes of the world. The Wild West frontier arrest and treatment of DSK, the lynch-mob mood, the media orgy, and his public humiliation make the US look like a nasty third world state. Getting the scalp of a famous Frenchman, not justice, was the goal of US prosecutors

More important, the US prosecutors who allowed this circus to occur should be fired and sent to North Dakota. America's justice system is embarrassing and desperately needs to be elevated to civilized standards.

...the other victim may well be US/French relations if by chance DSK beats the much hated US toady Sarkozy in the next election...

Cheers

blutto

really? Sarkozy is a dbag and so is DSK. i think you are way off the mark.
famous Frenchman indeed. the plaintiff appears to be guilty of lying to the prosecutors about almost everything, but something still happened to make these charges take place. keep up the hyperbole.

 

[usedtobefast]

One could almost think that rape charges following presumably consensual sex is the new MO for inconvenient characters such as Julian Assange and DSK.

It probably still beats polonium poisoning. Barely.

i would say Assange is most definitely being harassed for Wikileaks. i hope he he prevails. as i write this, i am listening to Tom Hayden speak on this very subject. he just got back from Sweden and will be going to London for more info on this case. interesting to hear his observations.

 

[blutto]

really? Sarkozy is a dbag and so is DSK. i think you are way off the mark.
famous Frenchman indeed. the plaintiff appears to be guilty of lying to the prosecutors about almost everything, but something still happened to make these charges take place. keep up the hyperbole.

....Sarkozy and DSK are both dirtbags...you throw that out like its some sort of stellar insight, but its really more like saying that it is news that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west...

...famous indeed?....well he was head of the IMF and had a very good chance of being the French leader after the next election...or do you see that as kinda ordinary and/or pedestrian?...it could be that you at at a slight disadvantage because you are probably using the Imperial Measurement System because in the rest of the world DSK would be considered quite famous, and rightfully so...

....so the plaintiff lied about just everything but you maintain there just must be something...now sounds like a solid basis for a case doesn't it?...well keep hanging onto your dreams because the way this is unfolding that is just about all you will have left...

...by the way that something was the need to derail a very serious rival to that US toady...

Cheers

blutto

 

[Semper Fidelis]

WoW someone wants this asshat dsk to walk. To bad so sad sack that dsk is an alleged pedophile and a alleged rapist. Most folks I know do not have that against them.

 

[Le breton]

WoW someone wants this asshat dsk to walk. To bad so sad sack that dsk is an alleged pedophile and a alleged rapist. Most folks I know do not have that against them.

Sure Glenn, even Cyclingnews found evidence against DSK.

Here is an IMF trainee hoping to be hired as secretary in his office, in this archive photo she appears to have the right credentials

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/cyclingnews-fitness-q-and-a-july-6-2011/40401