the big ring said:
Ah yes fast and loose with the truth. You posted a link to the ground-breaking new 6-week study that proved Ed Coyle's study and I simply replied to it in its appropriate thread.
Trust me, if you had not said the following, this would have been left well alone.
My comment was in response to matomoro's mention of the Coyle paper. You're the one who dredged up this thread.
the big ring said:
Pretty sure that's you mentioning the paper and claiming the new study proves Ed was right
It doesn't prove it, but it certainly supports it, just like all of these other studies:
Hintzy et al. Can J Appl Physiol 2005; 30:520-528
Paton and Hopkins J Strength Cond Res 2005; 13:826-830
Majerczak et al. J Physiol Pharmacol 2008; 59:589-602
Sassi et al. Appl Physiol Nutr Metab 2008; 33:735-742
Hopker et al. Med Sci Sports Exerc 2009; 41:912-919
Hopker et al. Appl Physiol Nutr Metab 2010; 35:17-22
Sunde et al. J Strength Cond Res 2010 (in press)
(Note how all of these papers appeared after Ed's study.)
the big ring said:
, even though it's a 6 week study,
All the more impressive, I would say.
the big ring said:
Incorrect: the study did include a longitudinal component (as described in the abstract)
the big ring said:
if I could access the paper itself I could find out how much the GE changed in the 6 weeks. I did ask, but I notice you declined to answer.
Sorry, from my end the paper is freely accessible, and I assumed (apparently mistakenly) it would be for everyone else.
In any case, to answer your question: efficiency went up by ~1% in an absolute sense (~5% in a relative sense, which is what matters from a performance perspective), i.e., from ~19.6 to ~20.6% (~ because I don't have the paper in front of me at the moment, and am working from memory).
the big ring said:
Good luck with having a (non-PhD estimated) 0.03 percentage point change in GE being anything but statistical noise or error.
Good luck indeed. However, you're the only who came up with the 0.03% figure (based on invalid assumptions) - in point of fact, the actually change can be ~33x as great (see above), and hence is readily detectable using a small sample size.