ESPN = Idiots

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ericfalcon said:
That show is unwatchable to begin with, im not going to volunteer. I guess you could TiVo the show and FFW to the commercials, then contact the individual advertisers.

Only problem is that any shrewd marketer won't care what cyclists think. They've chosen to advertise during that show b/c they want to reach a certain market.

EDIT: And now I'm think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo

Actually, TFF, I just realized that I read all of your posts in Hicks's voice.
 
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This story makes me glad all over again that I've been getting my TV over-the-air for the past two years and haven't contributed a penny to ESPN.
 
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mr. tibbs said:
Only problem is that any shrewd marketer won't care what cyclists think. They've chosen to advertise during that show b/c they want to reach a certain market.

EDIT: And now I'm think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo

Actually, TFF, I just realized that I read all of your posts in Hicks's voice.

You add a touch of southern accent (not much, just enough to reveal my roots...its a bit calculated on my part) and you are pretty close.
 
Maxiton said:
He doesn't have to lose his job. They should just make him take up cycling. Or better yet, put him on the cycling beat. Also, a little sincerity would be nice, in the apology department.

PS., phanatic, henceforth you are on my ignore list.

Perfect solutions on both counts.
 
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All,
There is enough going on in this topic without introducing racism. Please ensure you do not re-introduce the topic of race into this thread.

regards,
Martin
 
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Oldman said:
Not that Old and didn't start racing until mid 80's at 35 years old. Hell, if I raced in the sixties I wouldn't know how to use the Interweb.

Oh, I don't know, I met a laconic, hip old guy in Marin once, who'd raced in Europe in the late sixties. Must have been one of the very first Americans. And he definitely knew how to use the web. Thought you might be him. Never mind. :)
 
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Maxiton said:
Oh, I don't know, I met a laconic, hip old guy in Marin once, who'd raced in Europe in the late sixties. Must have been one of the very first Americans. And he definitely knew how to use the web. Thought you might be him. Never mind. :)

you mean he was on the Mayflower? :D

(I know that this post could open up new discussion - please DON'T! - and I apologise for that but I could not resist it)
 
Done. Added this to my comment:

Unfortunately Mr. Smith's comments will likely lead to the deaths of several cyclists as some viewers act recklessly towards cyclists and try to re-enact the incident. Would ESPN wish to be potentially liable for such an incident?
 
Thoughtforfood said:
I don't think he rides a bike.

meh - I dont ride a bike :eek: ... but I still find his comments absolutely appalling.

In the year that we have lost a cyclist in a Grand Tour, have had multiple lifethreatening injuries in other races and carnage for cyclists on our roads every day .... he can say that seeing a tragedy of that magnetude is funny - and worse, defend it - is simply not acceptable.

Thanks Jamsque for the link
 
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Random Direction said:
Done. Added this to my comment:

Unfortunately Mr. Smith's comments will likely lead to the deaths of several cyclists as some viewers act recklessly towards cyclists and try to re-enact the incident. Would ESPN wish to be potentially liable for such an incident?


I agree with all things said in this thread but your dreaming mate, ESPN or Smith would or could never be held Liable for any such incidents
 
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Random Direction said:
Perhaps his twitter account would enjoy knowing that his sponsors are being contacted?

Dont do that.

Ignore his Twitter account completely. From the point of view of an agent, they only count the total of the tweets, not the content. All the cyclists hitting him on twitter now are actually helping his career in a perverse way. Stick to ESPN.
 
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Martin318is said:
Dont do that.

Ignore his Twitter account completely. From the point of view of an agent, they only count the total of the tweets, not the content. All the cyclists hitting him on twitter now are actually helping his career in a perverse way. Stick to ESPN.

Negative. I work in brandwatching and companies like ESPN will hire agencies to individually code every social media mention of their brand/reporters. The cyclists' negative tweets will therefore not influence Mr.Smith's career in a positive way.
 
benpounder said:
And my first thought was entirely disassociated with nationality, either he is an idiot, or PR whore that knows its 'safe' to make fun of a sport that his nation isnt ga-ga over.

It doesnt offend, it pisses me off; you seem to think that this kind of behavior is exclusive to us Yanks. I also have lived abroad, and I've run into jerks in all nations.
what i was trying to say, badly i'm afraid, is that i immediately and instinctively brought nationality into it. it is something that is done here quite often, not necessarily in a derogatory way.

it's like saying someone is from a particular state or region in the U.S. (subtleties like that come up here as well, i am merely not fluent enough to always catch them.)

for the most part, i find it refreshing rather than mean-spirited.

i am an american, very blatantly so. my accent gives me away in a second and i am a serial smiler (which has more to do with my nature but, also, the fact that it was never discouraged growing up).

thirteen, unless you are also hfer07, you are responding to a comment that was not directed at you. I said I thuoght the inclusion of "american" in a post regarding "sports reporters knowing nothing about a sport" was gratiutous. That's all.
mea culpa. i was defending the other poster, not hfer07. it was a knee-jerk reaction and it was wrong. i apologise.

there are jerks of all nationalities.

if you look later on, i was defending american sports journalists to hfer07 -- specifically Bonnie Ford, also an employee of ESPN. she is passionate, respectful of the sport, and as informed as you could ever ask for.

i was simply trying to say to you that bringing up one's nationality was not necessarily a negative, merely what is done frequently. (i said it badly the first time and, perhaps, have failed again.)

i am not ashamed to be an american... in fact, i'm frequently amused by the reaction i encounter when someone finds out i am american and a female (not easy to hide either) who loved cycling and their face says, "WTF?" i am not sure which fact shocks them more ;)
 
thirteen said:
n fact, i'm frequently amused by the reaction i encounter when someone finds out i am american and a female (not easy to hide either) who loved cycling and their face says, "WTF?" i am not sure which fact shocks them more ;)

Tell me about it -- and then be a middle-aged cycling journalist to boot.....

Susan
 
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mewmewmew13 said:
well, he was strong-armed into posting that but does anyone think he really means it...

If he doesn't get canned it will just reinforce his attitude. :(

pardon my ignorance but i never heard of michael smith until today...yes, the apology sounds disingenuous.

m. smith made poor-taste, pr-whoring comments …what else is there to say :confused::mad:

and yeah, ignorant michel smith is from the same country as sam abt, bonnie ford, charles pelkey, joe lindsey and a bunch of other thoughtful and knowledgeable journos

i receive news in many languages and have seen ignorance in many languages…
 
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They used to make fun of soccer and NASCAR all the time until ESPN or ABC purchases the broadcasting rights, then they act like they care. I watch it occasionally and cycling only makes it when there is a wreck, someone dies or someone dopes. Then we wonder why no one cares about cycling here in America and thinks they all dope.
 
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DrC0721 said:
They used to make fun of soccer and NASCAR all the time until ESPN or ABC purchases the broadcasting rights, then they act like they care. I watch it occasionally and cycling only makes it when there is a wreck, someone dies or someone dopes. Then we wonder why no one cares about cycling here in America and thinks they all dope.[/QUOTE]

If a non cycling fan stumbled onto this website and read the clinic, why would you not think that. Sorry Off Topic
 
I saw this Bob Beckel on fox news yesterday, The Five, and he complained about cyclists in nyc - not the messengers, but the people in their 'Eurotrash' outfits and said he'd like to run those people over. Link Skip to 4:10 or so, and note the criticism of "running over liberals" as the targeting of cyclists went unnoticed. To re-iterate my first post, even though I complained to the Drudge Report earlier this year, I know that it's all just news of the weird. I think rather than outrage and vengeance, perhaps you could find a way to use these opportunities to raise awareness of cyclists and their right to be on the road. I used to see bumper stickers and road signs reminding motorists to check twice for motorbikes. I really doubt that going after sponsors will decrease ignorance of cyclists' rights or the aggression of some drivers toward them.