Euro 2016

[Flamin]

Btw, how do you explain that Ronaldo has by far the most shots on goal this EC? Bale is 2nd with 19 (!!) shots less. You think Nani gets away with shooting from every angle on the pitch?

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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And CMP, I expected better from you man. Why should he not cry? What's with this rubbish that men don't or shouldn't cry? He was taken out of the final 20 minutes in because of a foul that wasn't even called. Any sensible human being would break down in tears if they were suddenly stripped of such an important moment in their lives as this.

For one simple reason: tears communicate insecurity. An alpha male is not insecure.

 

[Merckx index]

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For one simple reason: tears communicate insecurity. An alpha male is not insecure.

I hope this is sarcasm.

 

[sniper]

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What is it with Ronaldo having health issues every time France make the final in Paris.

A shame European football doesn't have unlimited substitutions like American sports. There we see someone in Ronaldo's situation going into the locker room for 30 minutes, being pumped full of all kinds of drugs, then coming back on to be the heroe in the finale

2 x +1. great pair of comments.

 

[sniper]

agree with Bigmac. It's a myth that some players would be underperforming playing with ronaldo.
ronaldo's presence and particular skill set gave the team structure as well as a clear and straightforward tactical plan.

anyway, the game is finally coming to life now. What an epically poor final this has been thus far.
imo nani is still the most likely guy to score for portugal, but if he does, it's going to be despite ronaldo's injury.
he looked much more dangerous alongside ronaldo.

 

[The Principal Sheep]

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For one simple reason: tears communicate insecurity. An alpha male is not insecure.

I hope this is sarcasm.

Judging by the avatar, the self-quoted signature and previous posting I'd hope that this is a parody account

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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For one simple reason: tears communicate insecurity. An alpha male is not insecure.

I hope this is sarcasm.

You are welcome to challenge any of those two statements with your own arguments.

 

[del1962]

Tears communicate emotion not necessarily insecurity

 

[jaylew]

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For one simple reason: tears communicate insecurity. An alpha male is not insecure.

I hope this is sarcasm.

Judging by the avatar, the self-quoted signature and previous posting I'd hope that this is a parody account

Have you not been reading his posts since he joined up? No shock and not a parody account. It's who he is.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Bahhh I don't care who wins, please let it end.

This is somehow an appropriate final for this terrible tournament.

 

[Põhja Konn]

Apart from Ronaldo's injury, Portugal is having remarkable amount of luck in this game. Given their approach today they would be appropriate winners for such a disappointing and negative tournament.

 

[Amsterhammer]

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Bahhh I don't care who wins, please let it end.

This is somehow an appropriate final for this terrible tournament.

Exactly what I intended to post.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

France have a small advantage over Portugal, but unless they ram it home in the next 15 minutes, it'll be a 50/50 lottery in the penalty kicks.

 

[Flamin]

Lol, Clattenburg can pray to god this was not a goal.

 

[SeriousSam]

Clattenburg almost single-highhandedly ruined the *** final of the Euro. English Refs at work

 

[BlackWhiteEagle]

Yeahhhh
What a hit son, what a hit!

 

[carolina]

nice

 

[SeriousSam]

Conjecture: Without Clattenburg's blunder that goal would not have happened.

 

[snccdcno]

In tears at Eder scoring.

 

[Flamin]

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This doesn't have to be such a bad thing for Portugal. Other players who are usually in the shadow, may step up. It wouldn't be the first time for this to happen.

like who? Quaresma? lol.
Nani looked razor sharp next to Ronaldo.
Now Nani is gonna be their playmaker/target man? Dont think he can handle that.

This is a big loss for Portugal.

Eder

 

[Brullnux]

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I think Portugal should drop Ronaldo. He is undoubtedly a great player, but IMO he hinders the national side.

By having one of the top 3 players in the world, the team and manager feel they can depend on him. Instead of playing with him, they play for him. Portugal have other very talented players that don't see enough of the ball in dangerous places, because Ronaldo has it and they believe that if Ronaldo has the ball, it is best for the team. Nani doesn't do this as much, however.

Yet, Ronaldo often goes invisible for large periods of important games. During this time against Wales, Portugal were on the back foot, partly because they were 2-0 up, partly because once Ronaldo is not involved the Portuguese team seem to have less of a game plan. See England vs Portugal in early June I think it was. Depending on a single player is bad for the team, like the Italian National Rugby team.

Moreover, he is a bit of a **** towards his team mates. The comments he made in February about his teammates were frankly appealing for a professional sports player, especially when it wasn't really true. A player like Ronaldo IMO is not a team player, but rather an individual using his team for his own success. Once again, he has improved this in this tournament but still feels his skill can justify him being a bit of a primadonna.

Also, I think he is overrated. He is the best in the world - against bad teams. Nobody can match him against bottom 10 sides in La Liga, or even sides outside the top 6. Against low to average sides, he is a beast. Against other top teams and in important games, he disappears comparatively. In most el clasico's he is not that prominent, or as prominent as Messi ok the other side. Against Atletico in the CL he was basically invisible until the penalty at the end. When it comes to big games he is no longer able to control games single handedly, so is not the best player in the world for those games. This year Bale has been better than CR7 in big games. Don't get me wrong, I still believe him to be one of the top 3 players in the world because of his skill and ability to win games single handedly against not so good teams, but not so good that Portugal should just play for him rather than with him.

Lastly, what happens when Ronaldo retires? Does Portugal just go in limbo for a while,vunsure of their identity and what they should do? By dropping Ronaldo, or at least changing the game plan, they will have a couple of years to prepare, while also allowing young players like Renato Sanches and others to blossom, becoming more central roles in the side. Basically, like Spain when they dropped Raul. I know this will not happen, but I'd be interested to see how Portugal do without him.

Stand by this 100%. First 25 minutes with Ronaldo were Portugal's worst, maybe because they were playing with 10 men effectively. They have played better without. Maybe their best of this tournament.

 

[SeriousSam]

Ronaldo finds the lack of spotlight so unbearable, he now playacts manager. What a character

 

[snccdcno]

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Clattenburg almost single-highhandedly ruined the **** final of the Euro. English Refs at work

Are you Duncan Castles?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Conjecture: Without Clattenburg's blunder that goal would not have happened.

Maybe now Abel Xavier's phantom handball in 2000 has been avenged.

 

[carolina]

ronaldo doing fernando santos work. hilarious LOLOL