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[Rackham]

He went 200m too late IMO

To be honest I think Pogacar's absence might have been detrimental because his presence would have given Alaphilippe something else to consider. But whatever, it was exciting & Primoz did exactly what I expected of him: attack & go for the win.

He always does, on every terrain, against every specialist.

 

[Red Rick]

To be honest I think Pogacar's absence might have been detrimental because his presence would have given Alaphilippe something else to consider. But whatever, it was exciting & Primoz did exactly what I expected of him: attack & go for the win.

He always does, on every terrain, against every specialist.

In all honesty I don't rate Pogacar as high for FW. He hasn't really destroyed the shorter Muritos, and I think Pogacars sprint is relativly better on flatter terrains than on a steep climb. Also Pogacar I think is simply stronger after a long, hard race than a 3 minute YEET climb.

 

[BlueRoads]

He went 200m too late IMO

Edit:
Or maybe just 100m.

I don't think he went too early or late, just with too much punch, while Alaphilippe went pretty steadily, knowing exactly when where how much.

 

[johnymax]

In all honesty I don't rate Pogacar as high for FW. He hasn't really destroyed the shorter Muritos, and I think Pogacars sprint is relativly better on flatter terrains than on a steep climb. Also Pogacar I think is simply stronger after a long, hard race than a 3 minute YEET climb.

This I agree with. He is still a top5 contender for FW.

 

[Red Rick]

In all honsty having time splits for Mur de Huy by 100M would be amazing. In my mind it doesn't seem energetically efficient to wait until the "flatter" final 200km to fully launch, and I also don't really know what power outputs we're talking about here to know if it's unfeasable to win by just being fresher in the final 150m.

 

[SafeBet]

I don't think going earlier or later would have changed the outcome. Huy is the kind of effort where you just drop the watts bomb and hope it's enough to win.

But I think he's the favorite for LBL.

 

[Red Rick]

I don't think going earlier or later would have changed the outcome. Huy is the kind of effort where you just drop the watts bomb and hope it's enough to win.

But I think he's the favorite for LBL.

Tbh I'm not completely sure what the win condition is for repeating LBL. Are UAE out of that one too?

 

[Carols]

This was his first FW and I think he gave a darned good showing. Being beat by Ala who knows that mur like the back of his hand is nothing to be ashamed of. Next year he'll be more knowledgeable about when to unleash the stomp!

 

[Sciatic]

This was his first FW and I think he gave a darned good showing. Being beat by Ala who knows that mur like the back of his hand is nothing to be ashamed of. Next year he'll be more knowledgeable about when to unleash the stomp!

And Ala rode a perfect race, which is what it took to beat him.

 

[johnymax]

In all honsty having time splits for Mur de Huy by 100M would be amazing. In my mind it doesn't seem energetically efficient to wait until the "flatter" final 200km to fully launch, and I also don't really know what power outputs we're talking about here to know if it's unfeasable to win by just being fresher in the final 150m.

I read on another forum... From where Roglic went at 420m to go till the finish, him and Alaphilippe were 8s faster than Valverde when he did the previous record. They've done the first part of the climb slowly (that also played in Ala's favor).

 

[SafeBet]

Are UAE out of that one too?

I would lean towards no but there hasn't been a statement afaik.

 

[Red Rick]

I read on another forum... From where Roglic went at 420m to go till the finish, him and Alaphilippe were 8s faster than Valverde when he did the previous record. They've done the first part of the climb slowly (that also played in Ala's favor).

8s on a 160s climb is a metric fuckload, and I do think the early pacing of the climb is payed a lot of attention to.

I still think Contador must have the record for the fastest first 900m of the final km

 

[johnymax]

8s on a 160s climb is a metric fuckload, and I do think the early pacing of the climb is payed a lot of attention to.

I still think Contador must have the record for the fastest first 900m of the final km

And Bananito has probably the record for the first 600m

 

[Oldermanish]

I don't think he went too early or late, just with too much punch, while Alaphilippe went pretty steadily, knowing exactly when where how much.

In a finish like that you need to go when you can. Wasn't that Valverde riding on the sidewalk 50 meters earlier just to get clear? It's all about momentum and JA was attentive and moved at just the right time.

 

[gunara]

8s on a 160s climb is a metric fuckload, and I do think the early pacing of the climb is payed a lot of attention to.

I still think Contador must have the record for the fastest first 900m of the final km

and Antón for what? 863?

 

[Red Rick]

and Antón for what? 863?

776.9

 

[Gargamel35]

Did anyone notice new bike paint scheme for Roglič? I like it a lot more then before.
I can't post a photo here. Don't know why.

 

[CyclistAbi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1384876455658725381

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Tactically Roglič pretty much did what i expected he will do. His performance today was on another level. It's just that today Alaphilippe was better. Nothing wrong with that as nobody can win all races.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I guess we can now start talking about Roglič and Alaphilippe rivalry on classics, as being a thing. Roglič doing Roglič on LBL 2020 and Alaphilippe returning the favor on FW 2021.

Can't wait for LBL 2021!

 

[Sciatic]

Hope Roglic rides Lombardia, if he’s got enough gas left in the tank at the end of this busy year.

 

[cen]

From this angle it is clearly Roglic.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Hope Roglic rides Lombardia, if he’s got enough gas left in the tank at the end of this busy year.

Likely.

From this angle it is clearly Roglic.

Nah, today it was clearly Alaphilippe.

 

[Oldermanish]

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Tactically Roglič pretty much did what i expected he will do. His performance today was on another level. It's just that today Alaphilippe was better. Nothing wrong with that as nobody can win all races.

It's hard to fathom a pro race over the terrain they rode to come down to a mass, slow motion uphill sprint. That's a crapshoot at best.

 

[Lequack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1385517620288495616

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[Red Rick]

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"Dammit Rogla you almost gave me a heart attack why would you do that?"

"Why not eh"