Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[Red Rick]

Let's be realistic. Primoz is no Contador and never will be. Just like Contador is no Eddy and never would have been.

Roglic is Roglic and he's building his own Very Worthy legacy that hopefully will stand the test of time. That should be enough for even the most ardent fan.

Same for me. I like both guys why even care who's better. Actually the same for riders I don't like. Don't particularly care if Roglic say eclipses Froome or not.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Lol I just don’t understand comparisons you make I guess. In addition to Contador being a completely different sort of rider than Roglic, I would also say that you can’t compare Froome to Pogacar. Pogacar is already a double monument winner and has shown himself to be a more varied winner imo. He has much more natural talent….imo.

Roglič and Pogačar are too similar. To make such distinction. That is to claim one is Eddy and the other one is nowhere near that. If Pogačar is much more then Froome then Roglič is easily at least a Contador of this generation.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Let's be realistic. Primoz is no Contador and never will be. Just like Contador is no Eddy and never would have been.

Roglic is Roglic and he's building his own Very Worthy legacy that hopefully will stand the test of time. That should be enough for even the most ardent fan.

If Roglič would get his bike at 12, then who really knows, we might be talking about Eddy. Would the pro cycling world survive that? Around two decades of Slovenian Eddies? Just when one would hang his bike on the wall ... IMHO it could be a bit unfair. Anyway. Roglič has (had) a chance to beat Eddy on the road. And it's not like he hasn't done that yet. I have no special reason to believe he won't do that again in the future.

As for the Contador. If Roglič can keep up his current level for 3 more seasons. Then objectively their careers will be considered of a similar caliber.

 

[Breh]

You use the word objectively but I don't think you know what it means.

 

[Carols]

You use the word objectively but I don't think you know what it means.

Or realistic.

It's super fandom at work

 

[CyclistAbi]

Lets first bag that Tour and lets ask Contador after. That works for me.

 

[CyclistAbi]

2022 team preview: Jumbo-Visma

Roglic and Van Aert offer guarantees like few others

www.cyclingnews.com

Much of the season will hinge, of course, on how they solve a problem like Tadej Pogačar at the Tour de France. If Roglič, backed by Dumoulin, Vingegaard, Kuss et al can’t do it, then surely nobody can.

There you have it. Roglič is not Terminator, he is John Connor.

 

[Lequack]

With Pogacar and a fan. Really liking the hint of mustaches

 

[tobydawq]

Wow, imagine getting a picture with both of those two

 

[Bonimenier]

Wow, imagine getting a picture with both of those two

Yeah, Pogacar will definitely hang this picture above his bed.

 

[Berflamand]

I don't think it's 'just' a fan. Isn't that former (junior) rider Manfredi?

But yes, he probably is a fan now.

 

[Lequack]

I don't think it's 'just' a fan. Isn't that former (junior) rider Manfredi?

But yes, he probably is a fan now.

Ah yes, thanks for the info. Apparently he was a very promising young Italian cyclist and got hit by a car while training. Very tragic.
I found an article here:

Samuele Manfredi out of coma | Cyclingnews.com

Italian talent no longer in life-threatening condition but long recovery process ahead

www.cyclingnews.com

And some more recent news

https://www.italy24news.com/sports/news/21440.html

 

[CyclistAbi]

Would Hamilton and Verstappen be prepared to do the same? All in all nice to see such classy rivalry.

 

[tobydawq]

Would Hamilton and Verstappen be prepared to do the same? All in all nice to see such classy rivalry.

Surely not at the moment.

 

[CyclistAbi]

World championship route(s) looks like as being rather suited for Roglič. Considering he might not do Vuelta in 2022 the time frame for preparation is in my opinion good. Now the biggest question i guess is if he won't do Vuelta, which two GTs is he doing in 2022.

 

[Jspear]

Is he for sure doing two GT’s?

 

[Eeslliw]

Is he for sure doing two GT’s?

For sure. He will do Giro-Tour double and after winning both, he will go to Vuelta and do triple, why not eh?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

With two fans. Really liking the hint of mustaches

Fixed it for you.

 

[bNator]

World championship route(s) looks like as being rather suited for Roglič. Considering he might not do Vuelta in 2022 the time frame for preparation is in my opinion good. Now the biggest question i guess is if he won't do Vuelta, which two GTs is he doing in 2022.

What on Earth are you talking about? He never said he won’t do Vuelta next hear and he never said he was going to do two GTs…

 

[CyclistAbi]

What on Earth are you talking about? He never said he won’t do Vuelta next hear and he never said he was going to do two GTs…

What are you suggesting then. He won't do the Tour?

 

[RedheadDane]

I don't think it's 'just' a fan. Isn't that former (junior) rider Manfredi?

But yes, he probably is a fan now.

I thought he looked vaguely familiar...

 

[bNator]

What are you suggesting then. He won't do the Tour?

Did I miss some kind of an announcement he was doing Giro?

No - I’m saying his primary target is the Tour, which is in line with what he’s saying and what his team is saying. As far as I know they did not specifically declare they won’t be doing Giro but if they do it, they’ll be contradicting their claims of Tour being their primary target. I don’t think (and nobody else does) they can realistically expect to have a good Tour after the Giro - especially taking into consideration next year’s Giro route and (even more especially) knowing the fact that Pogi won’t be doing Giro…

And one more thing… I would love for Roglic to do both the Giro and the Tour and if he was 25 it could be a good idea. But given his age and not that many opportunities left to win TDF and thinking that 2019 might prove to be his biggest chance to win the Tour in his career - I don’t think he should (or will) take his chances trying to do both.

 

[Nirvana]

If he's going to the Giro it means that he basically admits he doesn't stand a chance against Pogacar, no way it will happen next year without even trying to beat him at the Tour, maybe in 2023 if he's going to loose fair and square in next year's Tour but IMHO he should try at least a couple of times before giving up since something could happen also to Pogacar, like crashes or a dip in shape that's not unusual in riders that are at the top already at very young age. And not forget that Pogacar hinted that in the coming years going to the Giro is a possibility on the table so in that case there will be a door open to win the Tour.

Anyway riding the Vuelta after the Tour is pretty likely, he likes the race, it suit him very well and there is less pressure there.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Rog rockin that 1920s look.

 

[Rackham]

This is a very measured 'careful' interview IMO regarding next year's Tour (& WvA's own green ambitions): Primož Roglič: I can share Tour de France green, yellow jersey ambitions with Wout van Aert - VeloNews.com

This part in particular:

“Anything is possible. We can get green and yellow – and the polka dot jersey for Sepp Kuss – but we have to determine what our main goal is, and then we have to make a plan that works for the two of us,” Roglič said.

i.e. of course the team could aim to win any of the jerseys (even Polka), but there must be a "main objective".